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guinness2dear
20 Sep 14 13:45
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It seems Lee Westwood had dinner on Wednesday evening...

An oxymoron?
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Report MisterBadger • September 20, 2014 1:52 PM BST
it's in the midlands, therefore norf
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 20, 2014 2:05 PM BST
From wiki:

The Sheffield City Region is an area of England centred on Sheffield. It was one of eight city regions defined in the 2004 document Moving Forward: The Northern Way,[1] as a collaboration between the three northern regional development agencies. It covers the entirety of the metropolitan county of South Yorkshire, and also adding four districts from north Derbyshire, and one district from northern Nottinghamshire.

The Nottinghamshire district being Bassetlaw, which includes Worksop. Coming from Chesterfield, I hate to be from the same region as those Nottinghamshire filth, but definitely the North, not Midlands.
Report RoyClaytonsTash • September 20, 2014 2:20 PM BST
Midlander promptly romps home at Catterick.
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 2:39 PM BST
I agree with Mikael, Nottinghamshire is definitely the North to me.

Excellent work on the naps front MisterB by the way, I just hope you are lumping on your selections as that must be your Winter Caribbean cruise well and truly paid for by now.
Report MisterBadger • September 20, 2014 3:04 PM BST
cheers slippy, I only wish I was too  Cry
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 3:17 PM BST
north starts at Peterborough imo - that's where the northern accent starts
Report Aunty Post • September 20, 2014 3:27 PM BST
Without looking I don't know, but it is clearly well south of North Yorkshire, which means it is a place to be avoided.
Even the name doesn't really send out attractive signals....rather like "Stoke"!
Report guinness2dear • September 20, 2014 3:32 PM BST
Mr Toes is sharpening his blade as i type..
Report Aunty Post • September 20, 2014 3:50 PM BST
Mr Toes is sharpening his blade as i type..

I guess that sums up why to avoid Worksop!
Report brendanuk1 • September 20, 2014 4:04 PM BST
North obviously as its name implies, if it was south it would be shandysop, limpwristsop or someoneelsedotheworksop
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 4:47 PM BST
Very good brend, Worksop where men are men and so are the women.
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 4:59 PM BST
But yes dinner should be the Afternoon meal. Lee should no better.
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 5:04 PM BST
Dinner in the afternoon A.G.? Confused What time does he have his lunch then?
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 5:27 PM BST
Hi Slippy

No such thing as lunch up here, unless you are part of the new wave.

But for anyone of Lee`s age its breakfast, dinner, tea and supper.
Report brendanuk1 • September 20, 2014 5:43 PM BST
you would think they are called dinner ladies by accident or sumfink Confused
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 5:47 PM BST
That`s reet brend, bloody southerners will be talking about lunch ladies next!
Report brendanuk1 • September 20, 2014 5:52 PM BST
ladies who lunch = work shy southerns
dinner ladies = hard working salt of the earth northerners
Report scandanavian_haven • September 20, 2014 5:54 PM BST
Course worksop is in the north, anywhere north of Northampton is Northern to southerners. And besides, you know it's in the north because the name is misspelt, was meant to be called workshyLaugh
Don't kill me.
Report cdog • September 20, 2014 6:17 PM BST
The north starts at Yorkshire in the east and Cheshire/Lancashire in the west, so Worksop is definitely not in the north. Neither it is in the south. The term Midlands was invented for places like Worksop.
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 6:20 PM BST
The Midlands was invented to stop the massacre between the north and south.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 20, 2014 7:46 PM BST
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The north starts at Yorkshire in the east and Cheshire/Lancashire in the west, so Worksop is definitely not in the north. Neither it is in the south. The term Midlands was invented for places like Worksop.


Crewe, Cheshire 53.0990° N
Worksop, Notts 53.3096° N
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 7:47 PM BST
Crewe is in the Midlands
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 20, 2014 7:50 PM BST
Not according to cdog.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 20, 2014 7:51 PM BST
Sheffield 53.3836°

If Worksop is MIdlands, Sheffield must be too.
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:12 PM BST
sorry ,Crewe is in fact north west - my bad ---if you want to choose a fair  example  go for North Norfolk ,technically South and compare with Cheshire 


Scolt head headland -Norfolk (south east)
53.00 N

Bell of the hill - Cheshire - (north west)
53.00N
Wink
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:16 PM BST
Worksop is to all intents north mainly because it is closer to Sheffield and Donny than anywhere 

Sheffield,Barnsley,Doncaster and Worksop form a little square on the map

Quaint
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:20 PM BST
found it - the part of england where the south is more northerly than a village in the north  Laugh


Audlem ,Cheshire North west 
52.989 N

Scolt island (central) - Norfolk
52.982 N
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 8:25 PM BST
To me, Nottingham and beyond is a reasonable mark as what I would consider to be oop North.

Perhaps ye ecky thump brigade can help me on another point. Geographically heading from North to South, whereabouts in England does supper become dinner?
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 8:27 PM BST
Supper never makes it to dinner. That train terminates at midnight.
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 8:30 PM BST
Was dragged up in Nottingham and it was always breakfast, dinner tea there.
Nottingham is Midlands as is Derby. Worksop is up North as is Sheffield.
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:31 PM BST
i'd say Nottingham is a good one if you're splitting the nation into simply south /north, Slippers

Nottingham has a definate northern feel ,as does Stoke

Leicester and Derby seem more south than north
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:35 PM BST
North to me is industrial,and heavy industry - coal mines and all that  -a little bit more run down  , South is more rural

i  think of Derbyshire ,Lincs and Leicestershire as rural counties - but not Notts -thats industrial (or was)
Report call me a taxi • September 20, 2014 8:40 PM BST
Anything past Watford is north.
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 8:40 PM BST
Nottingham was coal mining and light industry especially cigarettes, bicycles and munitions. True it has a more northern feel than Birmingham where I live now. Nottingham regards itself as East Midlands as do Derby and Leicester which are close by.
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:43 PM BST
they are east midlands  - but i think we are talking if the country was split in two fiona  Wink
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:44 PM BST
Birmingham is the only area i can't pigeon hole - not sure what i'd do with that lot  Laugh
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 8:48 PM BST
If you rule out "Midlands then would agree that the line goes through Leicester and Notters is more North than South. Birmingham, like London has a coat of many colours Coachy, Some parts have an affluent Southern feel, other parts I hesitate to describe.Wink
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 8:51 PM BST
yes - in that case we'll divide in the middle and put up a nice wall  Grin
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 8:54 PM BST
Some Northern parts of the conurbation are rather nice, Sutton Coldfield for example.
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 9:03 PM BST
a lot of Brum is nice  from what i've seen - just need an excuse to spend time going round the area

i'll have to have a word with moonbeam for a free travel guide  Grin
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 9:03 PM BST
Laugh@ Coach.
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 9:06 PM BST
last time I was in Birmingham I met up with a mate in Small Heath. I was the only white person in the place and everyone thought I was old bill Sad
Report Coachbuster • September 20, 2014 9:08 PM BST
must have been the sunglasses and the Bob Marley t shirt you were wearing Slippers  Grin
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 9:10 PM BST
It's a bit like a dartboard, pleasant fairly compact centre ringed by a hinterland where I would not be happy to live then a more affluent outer belt. Most of the satellite towns are good, the further North you go the more they resembles Stoke that is "Northern" (no offence intended Tommy Blush)
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 9:13 PM BST
Did you see the Mosque near Small Heath station Slippy? Very impressive building.
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 9:20 PM BST
Did I see it? I was parked right outside the thing! I was visiting my mate who I knew from years ago but had no idea where I was going. Don't get me wrong Foinavon, everyone was friendly and I got no hassle whatsoever but some clean cut, short back and sides white bloke stood out like a sore thumb.
Report FredRescue • September 20, 2014 9:21 PM BST
Aberdeen is where the south starts
Report expensive hobby • September 20, 2014 9:23 PM BST
Worksop to the southerners its North of watford so its Oop North to them - that s the end of the matter as far as they are concerned.

Midlanders dont think of themselves as midlanders but that whats the Northerens think of them. TBF it is on the edge of the Midlands. It is 20 mile or so from Sheffield down  the M1 so its pushing at Northernish. The true test is whether you can get gravy with your chips ( KFC doesnt count ).

Big Bill Werbeniuk used to live in a bus outside the local snooker club and live in the bus , practice in the club and drive up sheffield to play. Westwood is its most famous son these days but Big Bill will always be my adopted favourite of the town.  In relation to dinner , unless you are upper class dinner is at mid day if you are from anywhere north of watford. During my university days I missied a meeting with a new southern friend as he said i'll see you in the refectory for dinner - he wasn't there at lunch time and I wasnt there at tea time. If Lee thinks dinner is at tea time he's been hanging around with Allis too long
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 9:24 PM BST
We all get along quite well here Slippy. Does Cameron realise that when he devolves powers to the cities we might become a caliphate.
Report EastofEden • September 20, 2014 9:52 PM BST
where the M1 becomes cobbled you know your up north
Report Angel Gabrial • September 20, 2014 10:00 PM BST
Were they start saying pub, bath, and think
Rather than pab, barf, and fink

This is when you are up north.
Report guinness2dear • September 20, 2014 10:52 PM BST
If Lee thinks dinner is at tea time he's been hanging around with Allis too long


At last a succint answer. Although i tend to think he's been hanging around too many alligators in Florida..
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 11:06 PM BST
What are your thoughts on the Ryder Cup g2d? Europe is so short for the outright win, I'm reluctant to get involved at the price.
Report guinness2dear • September 20, 2014 11:12 PM BST
The US of A's price is an insult, O'Slips. But i shall wait till i see the weather before getting involved.

I got burned badly 2 years ago but admitted on the fred on HR that it was one of the rare times that i was glad i lost.
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 11:23 PM BST
Indeed guinness3dear, it's the one contest that I just cannot back against us. I don't mind betting against England or Ireland on anything but I'll be damned if I ever bet on America to win the Ryder Cup. I think we will win but will wait til we hit levels ye devils if we get a ropey start on the first morning.
Report guinness2dear • September 20, 2014 11:28 PM BST
To lose on one of the greatest comebacks in sporting history was a masochistic pleasure.

I shall put a fred up now to get anyone who's interested early thoughts. It can stay up for the duration then.
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 11:34 PM BST
OK
Report SlippyBlue • September 20, 2014 11:34 PM BST
OK
Report call me a taxi • September 20, 2014 11:37 PM BST
West Bromwich is a dump.
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 11:42 PM BST
Grin
Report call me a taxi • September 20, 2014 11:46 PM BST
Don't smile, it is.
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 11:48 PM BST
Did I say it wasn't?
Report EastofEden • September 20, 2014 11:48 PM BST
is it worse than smethwick ?
Report call me a taxi • September 20, 2014 11:49 PM BST
Not been to Smethwick.
Report Foinavon • September 20, 2014 11:50 PM BST
Much the same
Report EastofEden • September 20, 2014 11:50 PM BST
its just down the road.
and its a shyte hole believe me
Report call me a taxi • September 20, 2014 11:54 PM BST
Halesowen didn't look too bad.

That and West Brom are the only two places I've visited, in or near Birmingham.

For all I know I may have driven through Smethwick.
Report Shanelee1966 • September 21, 2014 12:38 AM BST
It`s part of Sheffield so North.
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