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12 Sep 14
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Martin McGuinness @M_McGuinness_SF
Very sad to learn that Ian Paisley has died.My deepest sympathy to his wife Eileen & family.Once political opponents - I have lost a friend.
Very sad to learn that Ian Paisley has died.My deepest sympathy to his wife Eileen & family.Once political opponents - I have lost a friend.
I always wondered what it would be like to be his next door neighbour - particularly if there was a thin dividing wall.
he was very anti drinking and anti gambling.. it must have been a laugh a minute in the paisley household. although as a religious man he did bring a new angle to tolerance, compassion and understanding..
there will be a lot of ghosts waiting for him
Akabula will be along shortly with his tear rendering rendition of 'The Sash'
he looks a 1.01 shot to be kept waiting at the pearly gates for a very very long time.
88 is a surprisingly good innings considering he nearly met his maker two or three times in the past 10 years. Perhaps it was his anti gambling and drinking that made him live so long 
I'm 100% Unionist but never voted DUP, mainly because he had "god" on his side. He was part of the problems of the troubles but he was also part of the solution. When 2 extremes like McGuinness and Paisley can work together then there is some hope for the planet.
Love or hate him, he will be remembered for a long time.
RIP.
I'm 100% Unionist but never voted DUP, mainly because he had "god" on his side. He was part of the problems of the troubles but he was also part of the solution. When 2 extremes like McGuinness and Paisley can work together then there is some hope for the planet.
Love or hate him, he will be remembered for a long time.
RIP.
can anyone epxxlain why the ira didn't even attempt to kill him? it's like they wanted him alive.
nobody could say 'the british government' like he did.Or do you talk like him, ovalman?
ovalman. on youtube if you type in ian paisley sheer bloody protestant malice, a song is played and the words are allegedly being sung by ian paisley. are they just taking the p**s or are they agreeing with him?
Half Time: Raith 0-3 Rangers
Flying the Union flag for Paisley @ Stark's Park
Flying the Union flag for Paisley @ Stark's Park
We shall never surrender our faith or sell ourselves out to a system of priestcraft, superstition and Popery.
@ brendan, I concur.
bergkamp 93's post was very distasteful - A pleasing Day...
bergkamp 93's post was very distasteful - A pleasing Day...
Through Popery the Devil has shut up the way to our inheritance. Priestcraft, superstition and Papalism, with their attendant voices of murder, theft, immorality, lust and incest, block the way to the land of gospel liberty.
Ian Paisley
Ian Paisley
brendan you show complete ignorance with that statement - there is no way he was a 'little' man.
Ovalman sums him up very accurately - a lot of people in NI were able to 'feather their nests' as long as the troubles continued. Certain people made it their business to manipulate the situation, provoke and agitate their own supporters and do everything in their power to ensure any attempt at a political settlement was meant with total opposition which in many instances led to violence and loss of life. Some mainstream politicians had a very clandestine but fruitful relationship with paramilitary groups and were able to use their political and security connections to influence the thinking and direction of the paramilitary bosses. Many young men ended up in jail or lost their lives because of the influences of these people.
Tony it was never in the IRA's interest to target him, he was a recruiting sergeant for them and also a justification for a lot of their most evil crimes.
Listen to all the so called tributes, no-one really has a good word to say about him, loyalist/unionist politicians are trotting out the 'now is a time to think of his family and the historians can debate in the months to come what his achievements were'. Personally don't have any time for Brian Feeney of he SDLP but check out what he said on BBCNI Newsline -
Commentator Brian Feeney
"He was driven by a burning ambition to be top dog. To run his own church, to run his own party and to run Northern Ireland.
"It was an absolutely burning ambition and, in the end, he achieved all those things.
"I also think that people assume he has this tremendous animus against republicans and people who are his political opponents, and they forget that for many, many years one of Ian Paisley's greatest enemies were the Ulster Unionist Party.
"It was fellow unionists he disagreed with, that he believed were completely wrong and he wanted to supplant them. And, ultimately, he did that in the 2005 general election and took over from the Ulster Unionist Party."
Its what his own ex-colleagues don't say about him that says it all ... no tributes, no flowery speeches just political gobbledegook.
Ovalman sums him up very accurately - a lot of people in NI were able to 'feather their nests' as long as the troubles continued. Certain people made it their business to manipulate the situation, provoke and agitate their own supporters and do everything in their power to ensure any attempt at a political settlement was meant with total opposition which in many instances led to violence and loss of life. Some mainstream politicians had a very clandestine but fruitful relationship with paramilitary groups and were able to use their political and security connections to influence the thinking and direction of the paramilitary bosses. Many young men ended up in jail or lost their lives because of the influences of these people.
Tony it was never in the IRA's interest to target him, he was a recruiting sergeant for them and also a justification for a lot of their most evil crimes.
Listen to all the so called tributes, no-one really has a good word to say about him, loyalist/unionist politicians are trotting out the 'now is a time to think of his family and the historians can debate in the months to come what his achievements were'. Personally don't have any time for Brian Feeney of he SDLP but check out what he said on BBCNI Newsline -
Commentator Brian Feeney
"He was driven by a burning ambition to be top dog. To run his own church, to run his own party and to run Northern Ireland.
"It was an absolutely burning ambition and, in the end, he achieved all those things.
"I also think that people assume he has this tremendous animus against republicans and people who are his political opponents, and they forget that for many, many years one of Ian Paisley's greatest enemies were the Ulster Unionist Party.
"It was fellow unionists he disagreed with, that he believed were completely wrong and he wanted to supplant them. And, ultimately, he did that in the 2005 general election and took over from the Ulster Unionist Party."
Its what his own ex-colleagues don't say about him that says it all ... no tributes, no flowery speeches just political gobbledegook.
the.mad.dog.man - are you the real mad dog man by any chance?!
"It's the way i tell em"
I used to be Ian Paisley's personal assistant until I suggested he could freshen up his living room with some scented petals.
He went mental, screaming, "We'll have No Popery in this house"
I used to be Ian Paisley's personal assistant until I suggested he could freshen up his living room with some scented petals.
He went mental, screaming, "We'll have No Popery in this house"
Orrrrrrr.....
Paisley died and went to heaven. When he got there he knocked long and hard on the door. St.Peter came out and asked his name.
"YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME ? I'M THE REV. IAN PAISLEY HE ROARED AT ST. PETER".
St.Peter looked at his list and could not find his name. Sorry say's St.Peter you're not on the list.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT ON THE LIST??? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO I AM???" screeches Paisley in terror. As a matter of fact I do said St. Peter, but your name is not on the list.
"THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH I'M A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON MY NAME SHOULD BE ON THE LIST" screamed Paisley. St. Peter tries to explain that its not easy to get into heaven, and that you have to be a Catholic. When Paisley hears this he starts to complain, so St. Peter says that had he been good to Catholics that he might have some chance.
"WELL" roared Paisley, "I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO CATHOLICS. WHY ONLY 2 WEEKS AGO I MET A YOUNG GIRL WHO HAD MADE HER COMMUNION AND I GAVE HER A POUND. AND 2 WEEKS BEFORE I MET A YOUNG BOY WHO HAD MADE HIS COMMUNION AND I HAVE HIM A POUND, NOW WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT MR. ST. PETER ???" St. Peter took a few notes on what he said. He told Paisley to wait and that he would have to go and talk to GOD and get some advice. About ten minutes later St. Peter comes out and says to Paisley. "HERES YOUR TWO POUNDS BACK, NOW PHUCK OFF"
Paisley died and went to heaven. When he got there he knocked long and hard on the door. St.Peter came out and asked his name.
"YOU DON'T KNOW MY NAME ? I'M THE REV. IAN PAISLEY HE ROARED AT ST. PETER".
St.Peter looked at his list and could not find his name. Sorry say's St.Peter you're not on the list.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT ON THE LIST??? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO I AM???" screeches Paisley in terror. As a matter of fact I do said St. Peter, but your name is not on the list.
"THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH I'M A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON MY NAME SHOULD BE ON THE LIST" screamed Paisley. St. Peter tries to explain that its not easy to get into heaven, and that you have to be a Catholic. When Paisley hears this he starts to complain, so St. Peter says that had he been good to Catholics that he might have some chance.
"WELL" roared Paisley, "I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO CATHOLICS. WHY ONLY 2 WEEKS AGO I MET A YOUNG GIRL WHO HAD MADE HER COMMUNION AND I GAVE HER A POUND. AND 2 WEEKS BEFORE I MET A YOUNG BOY WHO HAD MADE HIS COMMUNION AND I HAVE HIM A POUND, NOW WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT MR. ST. PETER ???" St. Peter took a few notes on what he said. He told Paisley to wait and that he would have to go and talk to GOD and get some advice. About ten minutes later St. Peter comes out and says to Paisley. "HERES YOUR TWO POUNDS BACK, NOW PHUCK OFF"
................and people in this country critisize the muslim religion and belief ....what a load of hypocrites!
he is 'little' because he was pure dictionary definition megalomaniac, could not work with anyone unless it quenched his thirst for power and dominance, did untold damage to northern ireland, for the sake of himself and no one else. small dick syndrome imo
I personally thought he was finished with the signing of the referendum but he was a strong leader and came back to hammer out things that the 2 moderates (UUP and SDLP) would never have achieved.
At one point I frowned when the DUP and Sinn Fein took power, I could see a repeat of the bad old days ahead with both sticking to their principles but fair play to Sinn Fein and Paisley for giving and taking. It's still a struggle making our parliament work but it's a darn sight better than anything from 20 years ago. I think the same things about McGuinness and Adams that the hateful comments on this thread think but it takes a lot of guts to reconcile with your enemy.
I'm really surprised by McGuinness' actions and reaction which shows just how far we've come in this peace process. Fair play although I'm maybe a cynic that Sinn Fein are playing to a wider audience, McGuinness is no Mandela.
Our peace process although not perfect is a great example to the World how peoples with different views and aspirations can work together to resolve their problems.
At one point I frowned when the DUP and Sinn Fein took power, I could see a repeat of the bad old days ahead with both sticking to their principles but fair play to Sinn Fein and Paisley for giving and taking. It's still a struggle making our parliament work but it's a darn sight better than anything from 20 years ago. I think the same things about McGuinness and Adams that the hateful comments on this thread think but it takes a lot of guts to reconcile with your enemy.
I'm really surprised by McGuinness' actions and reaction which shows just how far we've come in this peace process. Fair play although I'm maybe a cynic that Sinn Fein are playing to a wider audience, McGuinness is no Mandela.
Our peace process although not perfect is a great example to the World how peoples with different views and aspirations can work together to resolve their problems.
Ian Paisley - as a person, humanitarian...in comparison to Gerry Adams - NO CONTEST. imo. R.I.P.
'Our peace process although not perfect is a great example to the World how peoples with different views and aspirations can work together to resolve their problems'....REALLY?
I'm guessing your from OWC as well Dewey.
I'm close to the Short Strand, nowhere near the front line but I know the bricks and bottles come nightly. Our parliament is cracked at the seams but it is working, I can't see a resume of violence on the same scale again.
I guess I'm a Humanist with my views, I've seen the wide World, met people of all faiths and cultures and deep down we're all the same. I don't care about religion although I'm still entitled to my Unionist views. I'm a Royalist for instance and the Royal family is based on religion.
Paisley (which is what this thread is about) may have been part of the problem but he was part of the solution. I admire him for that, I just wish people would get on with life, we all share the same planet for a brief spell.
I'm close to the Short Strand, nowhere near the front line but I know the bricks and bottles come nightly. Our parliament is cracked at the seams but it is working, I can't see a resume of violence on the same scale again.
I guess I'm a Humanist with my views, I've seen the wide World, met people of all faiths and cultures and deep down we're all the same. I don't care about religion although I'm still entitled to my Unionist views. I'm a Royalist for instance and the Royal family is based on religion.
Paisley (which is what this thread is about) may have been part of the problem but he was part of the solution. I admire him for that, I just wish people would get on with life, we all share the same planet for a brief spell.
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