One dead, seven in hospital, in Basildon, Essex.

I'm worried about the dead one that the media say "suffocated"

The welcome reception in Newham has been postponed

5,000 imported for the funeral.

Pain in the ar se these people

If they are in the EU, they would have the right to stay here anyway so they must be travelling from outside Europe. Why do they cross the whole of the mainland of Europe to get to here?

Travelling from Indian sub continent Why travel all that way indeed

There must be something these other countries in Europe are doing to make foreigners less welcome(I include EU recidents in that) which makes them less appealing to migrants.

Yes I wonder what must be so appealing about this country than the rest of mainland Europe? Perhaps it s the weather

Why dont we just send the container back to the port it came from. They would soon get the message.

Cos we're soft as shoite. Now we got the NHS cost, interpreters housing and paying for them to live. Within two years they'll claim the country is racist

You should know by now that we have always extended a warm welcome
to those fleeing persecution.

Probably took one look at Tilbury and decided to stay on board.

It's fine for those of us who have been lucky enough to be born in countries like ours. Few of us could even begin to imagine the conditions that some of these people are trying to escape from.
It must be truly awful to be an honest, kind-hearted, generally all-round good person in a place where exploitation, corruption and anarchy rule supreme.
We live in a land where nobody goes hungry or thirsty. We get medical assistance when we need it and education is free to all.
It's small wonder that so many people are willing to risk their lives to reach some of the European countries.

They were already in Europe, already had a safe haven. But they carried on to get here.

I dont blame them at all for trying to get here. I would do the same in their position. However the vast majority of people here feel we have let in enough of them now and its time to say no more. So send them back to the safety of the port they came from which is Belgium isnt it?

were the last stop , other eu countries wont stop them , they just let them carry on to get them out of their country

These are not the poor unfortunates who are desperate to escape appalling conditions.

They are the nouveau riche, with the connections and money to buy an illegal passage to Europe.

coming here to pick pocket and deal crack

Not a lot of compassion on this thread.  Good luck to them all, I wish them well.  Odds on they are all grafters who are hoping for a better life, which they will acheive if they are allowed to stay.

Chit chat - home of compassion

maybe they speak english not french or german, doubt they have just risked death to sit on sofa in newham and claim the dole, thats for indigenous population

Tallywagger.
16 Aug 14 16:25   
Probably took one look at Tilbury and decided to stay on board

"Not a lot of compassion on this thread.  Good luck to them all, I wish them well.  Odds on they are all grafters who are hoping for a better life, which they will acheive if they are allowed to stay."


Id be a layer of that bet at odds on.

they've had assistance in Belgium because the doors should be locked and fitted with a customs seal

Ok dotchinite.  Indians are workers,   Brendan has a point, UK will always be the european destination of choice because we speak english.

you seriously think a major factor in people heading here is because we speak English?

Yes.

Didn't realize they were Indians. I thought they were Belgians.

english is language of business all over the world, its a great skill to have or improve on, to increase your chances of work world wide

who would want to work world wide when you can come here and access the NHS, education, housing and benefits.

you think UK has best social service in europe? a head of the scando countries?

and work illegelly for their family on top

i would lock the borders if i had my way , UKIP are the way ahead imo

the VIKINGS in the scando countries wouldnt have it

brendanuk1
16 Aug 14 18:34   
maybe they speak english not french or german, doubt they have just risked death to sit on sofa in newham and claim the dole, thats for indigenous population

How many whiteys is that then? - 25?

This was 2007
ONS figures for 2006/7 show Newham had the highest net inflow of international migration in London: 

In 2007 Newham had the highest proportion of births to overseas born women in London (74.8%) Nearly a third of births in Newham are to Asian-born women.

This was 2009
In 2009 Newham had the highest proportion of non-white primary pupils in London (82%)

An analysis of children actually on roll in all Newham schools in 2009 shows that only 10% children were of White British origin with Asian (43%) and Black (26%) making up more than two thirds of the school population:

In 2009, 3590 residents attended a British citizenship ceremony in Newham, the highest number in London.

Hard data on numbers of asylum seekers and refugees living in Newham is unavailable but we probably have the highest population in London. The Audit Commission has estimated that the borough had 20,000 refugees and asylum seekers.

In 2002, Newham Council estimated that 8% (approximately 23,000) of its residents were from refugee communities.

Groups identified at that time were: Somalis(the largest group), Congolese (second largest), other Africans, Kosovans, Tamils, Latin Americans,
Polish Roma, and Vietnamese.

In March 2010 Newham provided subsistence support to more asylum seekers than any local authority in the country.

In 2009/10 the employment rate for the white population in Newham, at 66.5%, was 10% higher than that for the ethnic minority population (56.1%).

The unemployment rate for ethnic minority residents, at
14.5%, was more than double that of the white population (6.7%).



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http://www.aston-mansfield.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/newham-key-statistics.pdf

In fairness if they wanted to work in a call centre they'd have headed for India.

The unemployment rate for ethnic minority residents, at
14.5%, was more than double that of the white population (6.7%).

ethicity and nationality are 2 different things, probably why all the 'lock the doors' crowd come across as closet or open racists

Brendan why aren't there loads heading through Germany to Denmark then instead of lining up in Calais?

they will work allright but in a family members shop , paying no tax

Aug 16, 2014 -- 12:59PM, Burton-Brewers wrote:

Brendan why aren't there loads heading through Germany to Denmark then instead of lining up in Calais?

Who said they arent? you think Germany and and Denmark have no illegal immigrants?

im no racist i have black mates

It's a 99% sure bet that the container was sealed before it was loaded onto the ship.

If that container was on the end stow at deck level, it was probably opened by a member of the ships crew, got therm in, then closed again and resealed.

If it was sealed, the documentation will show the seal number, and if it was changed after it left its loading depot.

I saw loads of illegals arrive in tautliners, but never saw them in a container.

with the high number of reported cases of TB and the Ebola virus, is no one worried what could happen if just one infected person got into the country?

did you use violence on them call me a taxi?

TheChaser
16 Aug 14 19:05   
im no racist i have black mates

I've got one black mate (Jamaican, not a facking african) a half-pakistani mate and a half-chinese mate. Unlike the population of Newham, they are outnumbered by white mates.

All my socks are black, and my closest companion is black.

Every time I go out, we're together, inseparable. 

It's my shadow.

TheChaser
16 Aug 14 19:13   
did you use violence on them call me a taxi?

I'll answer that after dinner.

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maybe tehy are racist , spot the white man

It simply makes no sense that this case is for a "better life" nothing wrong with Belguim

Belgium is a beautiful country but you have to have paid into the system before you are entitled to anything

Bingo Burton

radio says 34 of them

Give them houses, a weekly giro and access to the NHS. How else can we guarantee more of our friends visit us.
The more the merrier then we can say we might be stupid but at least we are caring. Don't worry about the pressure this puts the indigenous population under, who cares about them anyways.
What a country this has become.

Britain makes the mistake of trying to be loved by the rest of the world, and to be seen as a compassionate
society. Big mistake. It is better for a country to be feared, only then does it get respect. We should not worry
about the rest of the world they are not impressed.

Looks like they were the victims of human trafficking.  Poor people .

TheChaser
16 Aug 14 19:13   
did you use violence on them call me a taxi?

Certainly not.
I'm never violent, unless provoked.
I did pull a gun on one, just the once, who was heard talking in the back of a trailer in a rare quiet moment in the yard, before the doors were opened. He jumped out as the doors opened and it could have got a bit nasty as he was waving a long bladed knife about.

Of course, he didn't know it was an air pistol I was holding, which we used for shooting pigeons in the warehouse. He threw the knife on the ground as soon as he saw it pointing at him. Him and his mate ran for it when the electric gates were opened to let a lorry in.

The first lot to arrive couldn’t even stand up properly.   

It must have been a rough crossing, and then a trip from Dover to London in very cramped conditions. They had got on the lorry in Calais.

So much for the froggies and their carbon dioxide detectors!!  They don’t give a fack, once they‘re over here they’re out of their hair. They must let quite a few through, they definitely don’t want them in Calais.

One of them had a receipt for a bottle of water purchased on the ferry. I decided that as my income tax was going to support them, I was entitled to a small rebate and relieved them of their cash. I had two hands full of coins (and I’ve got big hands) they looked like a UK £2 coin, but had a hole in the centre. I was looking forward to a nice restaurant meal at their expense, but found out the whole lot was worth the magnificent sum of about 90p. 

Facking cheapskates!!

Called the police, who took over an hour to get to us, then they took them away.

The next lot to arrive came a few months later. 

As a trailer from Florence (that's in Italy, not a bird) was reversing across the yard, one of my men was outside having a smoke and shouted to us who were inside.

He had seen the tip of a Stanley knife blade cutting the taut-liner curtain from top to bottom near the back doors. I ran across to the security hut and closed the electric gates. The security guard phoned the boss, who was  upstairs, he came down, and all the office staff were now at the upstairs windows. A few warehouse staff had armed themselves with hammers and lumps of wood in case it got nasty.

They had nowhere to run to though, south were the electric gates and fence, 9 feet high with razor wire along the top, east was the warehouse, west was a transport yard with a high fence and dogs on the loose, and north was the railway line exiting from the tunnel under the docks. It only had  a 7 feet high wall, but a 20+ feet drop on the other side on to rail tracks.   

They were soon rounded up, about 15 of them, men and women, and the police were called. Of course, all the office bods and luvvies upstairs  felt EXTREMELY SORRY for them, but they wouldn’t allow them into the staff canteen!! 

They were taken to the warehouse rest room and given water, tea and coffee.  FREE FFS !!  I didn’t know I was running a facking  char-i-dee.

By the time plod turned up we had almost finished offloading the trailer they came in on, and there were some shoes missing from boxes, which had been replaced by manky sandals. I called down the boss, who was as big a thief as me, and he did his usual shouting ’Facking immigrants, thieving bastards etc’  He was a ‘bubble’ btw.  

We took out 20 more pairs of shoes from the damaged boxes, which by strange coincidence were the same size that his wife, my wife, his daughter and my two daughters all took.  How lucky was that??? Let the lorry drivers insurance company sort it out, he had the immigrants on his vehicle.   

Up to that point,   I thought the police took them to a detention centre, and our nearest one to us was way over the other side of ‘London‘, in Croydon. 

Allow me to wander off  topic for a line or three.   
Some older forumites may remember Croydon when it used to be in Surrey. But once somewhere starts to fill up with ‘undesirables‘, despite the fact it doesn’t have a London postcode,  it becomes a  ‘London Borough’. 

This also applies to Barking, Dagenham, Ilford,  Romford (which is facking miles from east London) and if it keeps on expanding, I have no doubt that one day Southend, which is 30 miles from east London, will become an ‘East London Borough’. Bromley used to be in Kent, it’s now referred to as south east London.  Wembley used to be in Middlesex, that’s now west London. You get my drift?

Meanwhile, back in the batcave... 
as they got near the last few boxes on the trailer, somebody put the kettle on, and one of the lads left for the snack wagon just round the corner. When he got back he told us that the police had let them all out of the vans near the bridge over the docks!!

What was the point of holding up work to detain them for the police?

After that, we just let them out of the gates to wander off, and if any cartons were damaged, which they always were, we had a bonus of shoes and clothes for the insurance companies to sort out. I liked to supplement my income when I got the chance. 

I would guess that while I was there (6 years) we let about 80 out through the gates, and it was always Mondays or Tuesdays. I think the reason for this is that 40 footers aren’t (or weren't back then) allowed on the roads in France on Sundays, unless they come up by what’s known as ‘the corridor’ through Belgium. 

All the vehicles parked up short of Calais were like magnets for illegals. 

And we were only a small warehouse in comparison to the larger ones down Thurrock and Tilbury way.   

It would be hard to guess how many get in during the course of a year at the UK ports of Dover, Harwich and Felixstowe. 

If lorries park up in cafes or lay-bys after leaving the docks, but prior to their destination, the ‘’illegals’ get out and scarper, never to be seen again.

Is that all true taxi

It certainly is.

I made a small fortune at that firm.

That's not the same firm as on the 1986 thread though.

good stuff , you still do anything/retired or different job

Mostly retired, I do a bit for a couple of bookies now and again, but not much.

I enjoyed that tale cmat,made me chuckle.

If I can't have a laugh where I work, I don't stay anywhere long.
Spent many years doing 2 jobs, mainly for a bookie for over 30 years.
I had 2 other jobs for just over 6 years each, then 1 at 2 years, quite a lot at a year or thereabouts, and a lot of jobs for short periods only. The shortest being about 3 hours.

Been sacked a few times along the way, but never for theft, I'm too clever for that.

I think they come over here because they can't get Betfair in, e.g. the US, Italy etc.
Come over here, yippee.
And there's the NHS, education, benefits, housing as well I suppose.

Lorry stopped by the Police in a service station on the M5 today.

Iirc it had 15 illegal immigrants in it.

With last weeks 34, that's another 49 going to claim asylum.

I wonder how many get here undetected?

Have they been given housing yet TAXI?
No speak English but can sign on.

Claim asylum

Get accepted (1.01) or get refused (67)

If accepted move to somewhere that's already overcrowded with asians.

If rejected, they each run up a legal aid bill of approximately £18k to stop them being deported.

Fat immigration lawyers love this sort of thing.

But it makes us a caring country.
Anybody who supports their claims to stay here should be made to give them a bed in their homes.

the UK is fu cked