Israel consistently refuses to obey United Nations directions, but that's okay; it is Israel after all and they can do whatever they like with impunity; Big Bro over the Atlantic will give them whatever they want, be it cash or weaponry. Oh, and check out how many countries Big Bro has invaded since WW2.
Israel consistently refuses to obey United Nations directions, but that's okay; it is Israel after all and they can do whatever they like with impunity; Big Bro over the Atlantic will give them whatever they want, be it cash or weaponry. Oh, and chec
I thought the Isle of Wight was a penal colony. Seriously, back in the day, (1960's) when I was a young PC in the Met I was approached by an older PC who had a plan to get into HMP Parkhurst, where the serious villains (Charlie Richardson, for one) were kept, overpower the HMP staff and kill all the prisoners before escaping from the scene on bicycles. He insisted that bicycles would attract no attention, but had no plan as to how squadrons of bicycles could regain the mainland without being noticed. Reluctantly, I was obliged to turn him down; the idea was attractive but the escape plan was flawed.
I thought the Isle of Wight was a penal colony. Seriously, back in the day, (1960's) when I was a young PC in the Met I was approached by an older PC who had a plan to get into HMP Parkhurst, where the serious villains (Charlie Richardson, for one) w
Lib Dem MP David Ward tweeted on Thursday The big question is - if I lived in Gaza would I fire a rocket - probably
some people say this is a vile comment, well not really, the truth is, if some of us had to live in their conditions we probably would, including me I suspect(not here I may add!)
shows how pro Jewish our media have become
that tweet was fair comment
I notice today on the red buttonLib Dem MP David Ward tweeted on ThursdayThe big question is - if I lived in Gaza would I fire a rocket - probablysome people say this is a vile comment, well not really, the truth is, if some of us had to live in thei
Irish_Celtic 23 Jul 14 09:19 America is little Israel more like , the tail is wagging the dog.
Now your on a roll, any more anti - semitic comments you would like to make, you have not got the balls to actually say you hate Jews I cannot blame you I suppose, the above comment is about as near as we will get.
Irish_Celtic 23 Jul 14 09:19 America is little Israel more like , the tail is wagging the dog.Now your on a roll, any more anti - semitic comments you would like to make, you have not got the balls to actually say you hate Jews I cannot blame yo
Pumphol will you STFU about anti semitism. I marched against the Iraq war, protested against troops in Afganistan and Libya. So just because I hate what you murdering, cowardly, gutless friends are doing in Gaza does not make me an anti semite. So shove that under your Kipa.
Pumphol will you STFU about anti semitism. I marched against the Iraq war, protested against troops in Afganistan and Libya. So just because I hate what you murdering, cowardly, gutless friends are doing in Gaza does not make me an anti semite. So sh
OK Dr. It's just that not everyone who disagrees with injustices in this world is doing so for religious reasons. You are only saying that because I am a Jew. You are only saying that because I am a muslim. You are only saying that because I am black. The list is endless. I am only saying it because I think it is wrong. It's a cop out imo. The thousands who have marched in the last few days all around the world are not all racist or anti semite.
OK Dr. It's just that not everyone who disagrees with injustices in this world is doing so for religious reasons. You are only saying that because I am a Jew. You are only saying that because I am a muslim. You are only saying that because I am black
Oh look ,the two gutless wonders Crippen and pumphol stoop to the lowest form of attack again , the accusation of anti Semitism.
Maybe you should check out what the U.N has had to say this morning about Israeli war crimes.
Oh look ,the two gutless wonders Crippen and pumphol stoop to the lowest form of attack again , the accusation of anti Semitism. Maybe you should check out what the U.N has had to say this morning about Israeli war crimes.
And by the way no matter how many times you repeat the lie that I am NortherLad it will not make it true. I think there is a very real chance Crippen and Call me a taxi are one and the same but I wont continuously pollute the forum with said accusation .
It shows how weak and pathetic your argument really is if all you have to fall back on is accusations of anti Semitism and idiotic talk of aliases.
And by the way no matter how many times you repeat the lie that I am NortherLad it will not make it true. I think there is a very real chance Crippen and Call me a taxi are one and the same but I wont continuously pollute the forum with said accusati
brigust1 23 Jul 14 10:54 Pumphol will you STFU about anti semitism
No I wont when people write
Irish_Celtic 23 Jul 14 09:19 America is little Israel more like , the tail is wagging the dog.
Whatever your stance is on the middle east comments above are purely made by Jew haters, end of, anyone who thinks the 13 million Jews worldwide run the world is not only delusional but must have a hating of anyone of that religion to even make that comment, I hardly expect you to agree with me on that but telling me to STFU about it is pretty pathetic in my eyes, not once have I called you a Jew hater, why ? because you have not made a comment like irish C has.
brigust1 23 Jul 14 10:54 Pumphol will you STFU about anti semitismNo I wont when people write Irish_Celtic 23 Jul 14 09:19 America is little Israel more like , the tail is wagging the dog.Whatever your stance is on the middle east comments ab
Discussion on LBC from 2pm about the rising tide of anti-semitism and a survey which says 80% of British Jews feel they are being blamed for the conflict in Gaza
Discussion on LBC from 2pm about the rising tide of anti-semitism and a survey which says 80% of British Jews feel they are being blamed for the conflict in Gaza
The problem for Israel is that it can't afford to trust any outside country. It must treat everyone with suspicion, not only of course the arab states but also European countries and British, especially liberals and generally those on the left. They know that these people should they ever find themselves at the mercy of an enemy state will turn their backs on them. Israel must protect itself at all costs.
The problem for Israel is that it can't afford to trust any outside country.It must treat everyone with suspicion, not only of course the arab statesbut also European countries and British, especially liberals and generally thoseon the left. They kno
Yes, the Arabs are a Semitic people but anti-Semitism is generally accepted to be mean anti-Jewish.
(I'm not saying that being anti Israel necessarily equates to being anti-Semitic)
Yes, the Arabs are a Semitic people but anti-Semitism is generally accepted to be mean anti-Jewish.(I'm not saying that being anti Israel necessarily equates to being anti-Semitic)
Israel must be an island entire onto itself. Indeed most successful countries must become increasingly isolationist. Take Holland, a prosperous peaceful and democratic nation, something to be admired is drawn into the madness of outside events.Most parts of the world are not capable of living and creating the sort of country the dutch have. This will not change. The o.ly option is for member stated to build secure borders and leave everywhere else to their own devices. The free nations must withdraw from the world, all advances in sciek technology kept within its own country. Good walls make good neighbours.
Israel must be an island entire onto itself. Indeed most successfulcountries must become increasingly isolationist. Take Holland, a prosperouspeaceful and democratic nation, something to be admired is drawn into themadness of outside events.Most part
Sickening pictures of severely burned babies tonight and still the artillery bombardment of civilians continues with the tacit agreement of our government. Pure evil.
Sickening pictures of severely burned babies tonight and still the artillery bombardment of civilians continues with the tacit agreement of our government.Pure evil.
It is all right Israel being an island, if it would stick to its own land lfc1971
Agree Foinavon
As long as the US and the West lets the Israelis do anything they want...this will continue. We never condemn Israel, we never will.
The Palestinians might as well not exist, they have no chance of justice in the World as it stands.
We will condemn anyone we don't like quick enough, the hypocrisy of the US and the West has gone completely off the scale.
sadly I doubt it will change
It is all right Israel being an island, if it would stick to its own land lfc1971Agree FoinavonAs long as the US and the West lets the Israelis do anything they want...this will continue.We never condemn Israel, we never will.The Palestinians might a
we not only give tacit agreement Foinavon, the US supplies them we don't have a foreign policy of our own, we just say and do what the US tells us
the media brought and paid for
we not only give tacit agreement Foinavon, the US supplies themwe don't have a foreign policy of our own, we just say and do what the US tells usthe media brought and paid for
Our new foreign secretary said that Israel has the right to defend itself. If this is defence I would hate to see what external aggression looked like.
We condemned the bombardment of Sarajevo, how is this different?
Our new foreign secretary said that Israel has the right to defend itself.If this is defence I would hate to see what external aggression looked like.We condemned the bombardment of Sarajevo, how is this different?
Our foreign secretary says he does not approve of Palestinian rocket attacks, fair enough
but to be totally fair he must add, he regrets Israel's continued presence in land that does not belong to them which is contributing to this situation
and he should also comment on Israel's excessive response, on the ground of humanity. the UN have commented on this
So all he has done is condemn the Palestinian's fault, in a statement that is meaningless as it is so obviously pro Israel
what has happened to the British idea of fair play?
again I agree FoinavonOur foreign secretary says he does not approve of Palestinian rocket attacks, fair enoughbut to be totally fairhe must add, he regrets Israel's continued presence in land that does not belong to themwhich is contributing to this
Irish_Celtic 23 Jul 14 09:19 Joined: 04 Aug 12 | Topic/replies: 1,215 | Blogger: Irish_Celtic's blog America is little Israel more like , the tail is wagging the dog.
I think you'd find that in reality your very own Irish influence might be stronger in the USA than any Jewish lobby. Certainly in numbers, there are comparatively few Jews in the USA.
Irish_Celtic 23 Jul 14 09:19 Joined: 04 Aug 12 | Topic/replies: 1,215 | Blogger: Irish_Celtic's blogAmerica is little Israel more like , the tail is wagging the dog.I think you'd find that in reality your very own Irish influence might be stronger in
The problem for Israel is that it can't afford to trust any outside country. It must treat everyone with suspicion, not only of course the arab states but also European countries and British, especially liberals and generally those on the left. They know that these people should they ever find themselves at the mercy of an enemy state will turn their backs on them. Israel must protect itself at all costs.
Are you for real lfc? Those on the left?
The real and underlying problem is the expansion of Israel, the stealing of land and displacing of people that has continued over decades. For a people who suffered so much at the hands of the Nazis, it is sad indeed to see them ACTING like Nazis. Lebensraum, anyone?
The problem for Israel is that it can't afford to trust any outside country.It must treat everyone with suspicion, not only of course the arab statesbut also European countries and British, especially liberals and generally thoseon the left. They kno
Well I feel they must return to 1947 borders, as I have repeated, that was a fair partition of the country, good enough for me.
If they try to grab more they have strayed off the moral path and even getting half of Palestine was debatable tbh, but to try and get more, is definitely WRONG
If lebensraum is their motive, unacceptable to me
Well I feel they must return to 1947 borders, as I have repeated, that was a fair partition of the country, good enoughfor me.If they try to grab more they have strayed off the moral pathand even getting half of Palestine was debatable tbh, but to tr
With all their technology, the iron dome and stuff, and the fact we appear to have take down most of the Arab countries(hmmmm....a question there?)
There remain no case for them to claim any extra for defence, and it was always morally wrong I think Israel need to be told, get back in your own cage
http://www.ameu.org/Current-Issue/Current-Issue/2013-Volume-46/Like-a-Picture-A-Map-is-Worth-A-Thousand-Words.aspx pumphol....when I get time I might check the accuracy of that, I doubt if I will find much difference
but from that Palestine appear like a piece of cheese, which is being gradually consumed by a hungry mouse, Israel The UN plan is the only legal one, as far as I am concerned.
With all their technology, the iron dome and stuff, and the fact we appear to have take down mostof the Arab countries(hmmmm....a question there?)There remain no case for them to claim any extra for defence, and it was always morally wrongI think Isr
Any land taken by force of arms, is illegal.....but if we accept that then Palestinian have a right to fight back surely...although they are patently losing
Otherwise the US and our values appear to have gone quite off the clock, as far as hypocrisy is concerned
fair enough pumphol, I do my horse form first
Any land taken by force of arms, is illegal.....but if we accept thatthen Palestinian have a right to fight back surely...although they are patently losingOtherwise the US and our values appear to have gone quite off the clock, as far as hypocrisy is
Bad news is it appears another massacre is taking place in Khan Younis . Medical teams cannot get within a kilometre of it because of the ferocity of the shelling.
The tide has turned Bad news is it appears another massacre is taking place in Khan Younis . Medical teams cannot get within a kilometre of it because of the ferocity of the shelling.
bbc`s embarrassed dad 23 Jul 14 23:47 Christ call me a taxi you are a real junior league small town w@nker,good work
FYI, I don't come from a small town.
If you're going to block me northernlad, do it with all of your aliases, not just one.
bbc`s embarrassed dad 23 Jul 14 23:47 Christ call me a taxi you are a real junior league small town w@nker,good work FYI, I don't come from a small town. If you're going to block me northernlad, do it with all of your aliases, not just one.
her is an interesting one, a Jewish proposalhttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/PartitionPlanC1938.htmlappears they were not so greedy then
I find it sad our Government cannot condemn Israel...this show very poor values or even the Labour party?
The key is the US, as long as they continue to supply Israel with the latest military technology Israel will continue to do what they like
The only way that will happen is if US public opinion turns against Israel if that does not happen, difficult to see a way out here
I find it sad our Government cannot condemn Israel...this show very poor valuesor even the Labour party?The key is the US, as long as they continue to supply Israel with the latest military technologyIsrael will continue to do what they likeThe only
The UN partition remains the only legal definition of Israel. Civil War broke out before this was ever implemented. The Arab league did enter Palestine in support of the Palestinians, they wanted Palestine for the Palestinians.
So if fact your whole post is one compete lie is it not Pumphol?, because they did not invade Palestine for themselves did they? So I suggest you have a read about the 48 war, Wikipedia is impartial.
You asked for a map I put it up
You say I speak crap, then put even bigger load of crap yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_WarI will need time to read thisThe UN partition remains the only legal definition of Israel.Civil War broke out before this was ever implemented. The Arab league did enter Palestine in support o
Israel is a small nation and would not be able to sustain a prolonged war. Their military leades know this and must retaliate quickly and with devastating force. Sometimes they must even strike first. This is the problem and makes decisions dangerous and difficult.
Israel is a small nation and would not be able to sustain a prolonged war.Their military leades know this and must retaliate quickly and with devastatingforce. Sometimes they must even strike first. This is the problem and makes decisions dangerous a
It may be small. But this hardly gives it the right to go about invading other countries, does it?
When the Jews emigrated to Palestine, they invaded another country. Which by force of arms they now have control of. If the previous inhabitants kick up a bit of a fuss, it is only to be expected.
On grounds of some legality, I have suggested we in fact implement the 1947 UN partition plan. Seems to me the only civilised way to proceed.
Otherwise the only rules we have are Last Man Standing..which in effect mean no rules at all.
It may be small. But this hardly gives it the right to go about invading other countries, does it?When the Jews emigrated to Palestine, they invaded another country. Which by force of arms they now have control of.If the previous inhabitants kick up
I would agree ebul regarding the 47 plan, however I doubt it would end there. We are where we are and Israel must never allow its defences to be weakened. They must never trust any other country or people other than themselves..that is absolutely critical.
I would agree ebul regarding the 47 plan, however I doubt it would end there.We are where we are and Israel must never allow its defences to be weakened.They must never trust any other country or people other than themselves..that is absolutely criti
When I say invaded Palestine..in fairness I must qualify that There has always been some indigenous Jewish population in Palestine But it had been a Muslim country for a long time...when we liberated it, it was part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire We should never have established a British mandate. We should have left.
Although we could have partitioned off a small area for the indigenous Jewish people.
Two things intervene, that ridiculous Balfour Declaration proposing all Jews go to Palestine. and the Holocaust...Jews seeing themselves as part of the population of European states find themselves targeted by Adolf Hitler. This drives Jewish immigration to Palestine, which we the British allow.
The reason I question whether most Jews belong there, is because most modern Jewish are those immigrants are their offspring
We have now everything in place for a great human tragedy which has happened.
When I say invaded Palestine..in fairness I must qualify thatThere has always been some indigenous Jewish population in PalestineBut it had been a Muslim country for a long time...when we liberated it, it was part of the Turkish Ottoman EmpireWe sho
THe trouble with your post lfc1971...is you are hanging onto the Holocaust.
That cannot happen in Israel now, you have your own country, the problem in Europe you did not, so you could not defend yourselves. You can now, so you need to leave that behind.
Jews can relax, although they must accept that the Palestinians are not quite happy about this. That is the reality
They have an extremely good army. They have the support of the US, the most powerful country on the Globe. What more do they want.
This defence policy of theirs, frankly is barbaric, they must change their ways, I mean this. I have proposed we implement the 1947 UN partition plan. This can be done gradually, you can extract some commitment of non aggression by The Palestinians.
You see if you don't improve conditions for the Palestinians it is making Israel look like complete barbarians. And you need to stop this disproportional reprisals as well, this is making Israel look like butchers.
You say Israel should trust no one, well they at least need to trust the US, because without their support they would be vulnerable. They say they want peace, they won't ever get it the way they are going at the moment. I don't advocate they neglect their defence, but these attacks are not the right way to this.
THe trouble with your post lfc1971...is you are hanging onto the Holocaust.That cannot happen in Israel now, you have your own country, the problem in Europe you did not, so you could not defend yourselves.You can now, so you need to leave that behin
ebulGery When you see what nice people like the Germans were capable off anything is possible. There are more lunatics per square mile in the world today than ever in mankinds history. Israel must keep itself secure and in time it is quite possible the rest of the world will destroy itself piece by piece.
ebulGeryWhen you see what nice people like the Germans were capable off anythingis possible. There are more lunatics per square mile in the world today than everin mankinds history.Israel must keep itself secure and in time it is quite possible the r
Nobody on here seemed bothered when Mugabe started having a go at white farmers.
250 Christian schoolgirls kidnapped by a bunch of Islamic nutters in Africa, and interest on here soon waned.
Gangs of ASIAN paedophiles locked up for sexually grooming, assaulting and raping young WHITE girls, slid off the forum after a day or so, with very few mentions of the obvious racism.
But the Jews do something, and out come the anti-semitic mob.
Nobody on here seemed bothered when Mugabe started having a go at white farmers.250 Christian schoolgirls kidnapped by a bunch of Islamic nutters in Africa, and interest on here soon waned. Gangs of ASIAN paedophiles locked up for sexually grooming,
When you see what nice people like the Germans were capable off anything is possible.
Were you living in Germany in the 1930s and 40s, lfc1971? From this point in time, it doesn't look like there were too many nice krauts about.
When you see what nice people like the Germans were capable off anythingis possible. Were you living in Germany in the 1930s and 40s, lfc1971? From this point in time, it doesn't look like there were too many nice krauts about.
the gruniad is quick to post articles defending islamists - beware the poison from within!!! It is the quasi politico intellectual position of the modern place serving journalist and politician. Including the tories!!!!
the gruniad is quick to post articles defending islamists - beware the poison from within!!!It is the quasi politico intellectual position of the modern place serving journalist and politician.Including the tories!!!!
Today a UN run school hit by the Israelis 15 dead 200 injured
Hamas Leader Khaled Meshaal has said he wants a ceasefire, although he also wants an end to the Israeli blockade of Gaza, which of course is totally illegal.....not a word of condemnation from the West of course
To all intents and purposes the Palestinian Arabs may not as well exist at all, for all the rights they have
Today a UN run school hit by the Israelis 15 dead 200 injuredHamas Leader Khaled Meshaal has said he wants a ceasefire, although he also wants an end to the Israeli blockade of Gaza,which of course is totally illegal.....not a word of condemnation fr
Nobody on here seemed bothered when Mugabe started having a go at white farmers.
250 Christian schoolgirls kidnapped by a bunch of Islamic nutters in Africa, and interest on here soon waned.
Gangs of ASIAN paedophiles locked up for sexually grooming, assaulting and raping young WHITE girls, slid off the forum after a day or so, with very few mentions of the obvious racism.
funnily enough I do care about these taxi it is our government that does not care...judging by it's inaction
but I am still pro Palestinian for all that
call me a taxi • July 24, 2014 7:02 PM BST Nobody on here seemed bothered when Mugabe started having a go at white farmers.250 Christian schoolgirls kidnapped by a bunch of Islamic nutters in Africa, and interest on here soon waned. Gangs of ASIA