Syria under Assad or Israel which is the worse.

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What if public opinion had not stopped Britain and America bombing Assad....?

ISIS would now control all of Syria and half of Iraq ....

Was the idea to separate Hezbollah and Iran ? What of tens of thousands mujahedeen with unlimited arms  living in a caliphate on Israels border ?

The west does not give a **** what happens after they have got rid of the likes of gaddaffi.assad and saddam hussein 
We will no doubt see the same appalling moslem extremists coming out the woodwork when we leave afghanistan
'He sows the wind will reap the storm'

Yep its one giant sh1tstorm . Afghanistan will be overran in hours once you leave if Ross Kemps programme is anything to go by, half of the army are smoking the poppy all day long.

Which is the worse was the question.

are you asking whom is worse as an individual ? president assad of syria or mr nettenyahoo ?
if so i would suggest the latter due to his 'sledgehammer to crack a nut'approach.
however I do think if hammas would stop firing missiles at israel then he would stop massacaring civilians in gaza
both are a bit unsavoury but I am not keen on cameron or obama either tbh.they all have the blood of innocents on their hands

Does there need to be a worst ?

Irish Celtic dosn't like the question, requires honesty, not his strong point.

Why don't you give an answer to the nonsensical question lfc?

Or maybe you prefer to quietly troll instead ?

I can see the dilemma for some . Assad , a Fascist dictator backed by those other bastions of freedom and democracy Russia and Iran ,slaughters 100 thousand plus of  fellow Syrians some with chemicals or a democratic country defending itself from Islamic fanatics intent on its destuction.
 
Tricky question.

Sometimes, just sometimes, it's better to have a controlled tyrant running a country. It ensures law and order. Take away so called tyrant and we end up with Iraq, Libya, Bosnia, Ukraine etc. next up Rhodesia.

quite

I imagine many Iraqis might say if your so called western democracyt means 500,000 plus innocent civilian casualties and a broken lawlessd country governed by warlords and murderous islamists then you can all fek off home and we will have our tyrant back thanks very much

Like Hitler he kept law and order Stalin as well .  Not much crime in  North Korea .

no.nothiong like stalin or hitler.do not believe everything you read in the Sun

Although I accept Islamic fascism would be worse that was not the case in Syria at least initially .

Yes Benjamin Netanyahoo  - His democracy loving people call the Arabs animals ,but then pick up a Palestinian teenager force him to drink petrol and burn him alive. His army prefer to do it a different way -usually by firing phosphorus shells into civilian areas - burns the skin clean off. If that fails why not stick 12 tank rounds into the hospital  , sure to get the message of democracy across to the people.

IC

I do not read these pages too often and you may well have made your views clear on here before
would you not accept the culpability of hamas in all this ? surely if they stopped firing their rockets then netanyahoo would back off

You will never see any criticism of Hamas by Irish EE.

oh right

He points out the disgusting murder of the Palestinian kid but fails to mention the equally horrific murder of 3 Israeli kids previously . His dogma only allows  him to see one side of the situation . That his why he struggled with my initial question.

Obviously both nurders were equally heinous and must surely be condemned unequivocally whichever side of the argument you are on

I can understand that the palestinians feel an entitlement to theire own state but on the other hand they may as well accept that israel is not going away.it must be pretty awful being cooped up in a hell hole like gaza and I understand why they would blame israel for their predicament.its the irresistablke force and the immovanle object

Perhaps it has escaped your attention but it is perfectly legal in international law to fight an occupying force. On average Israel has killed a Palestinian child every 3 days for the past 13 years. You can try blame all that on Hamas but you will look very foolish. If you want to shout your support for an army that massacres civilians from air land and sea then go right ahead.

when you talk about'an occpying force'do you mean the land occupied buy israel after the 67 war or the whole of what hamas would call 'israeli occupied palestine' ? I doubt that it would be legal iun international law to fight israel for control of their sovereign state.on the other hand the land captured in the yom kippur war previously belonged to Jordan,Syria and Egypt did it not rather than palestinians ? so what gives them a right in law to fight for that territory which was never part of historic Palestine ?

Think everybody has a different opinion on that. The West bank was given to the Palestinian authority by Jordan ,and is certainly occupied by Israel ,who are carving it up as they see fit. Gaza is blockaded by land sea and air which is occupation . Of course the contentious issue is the Israeli state proper , which Palestinians  considers occupied and entitled to that opinion. Epicurean  talks of 100k dead in Syria but fails to address the 750k that were ethnically cleansed from their lands by Zionists  .

Israel only has rights to the land given it in 1947
any other land occupied is illegal...and international sanctions should
be conducted against Israel until they return to their proper borders

I do not understand why this has not happened?????????????????????????

Whoever owned the land before is irrelevant, but it should return to that owner

otherwise why have borders at all, why does every country just not grab what it can??????????

The problem with Syria it is not under Assad is it, or only half of it is
they have civil war, about the worst option for any country