dragons den

Brilliant.

i'll go in with duncan. i like me crisps.

8k turnover and they value it at half a million?? 

jesus h. deluded isnt really the word now is it deary...

who would pay 20 odd quid to get a photo framed in a sh1tty plastic frame??
can get better frames in wilkinsons for 99p.

self-cleaning glass coffee table coming up... deborah meadon to test it

Watching it on iplayer.

Dancing -- he took the wrong dragon imo in plumping for Deb rather than Duncan & Kellie combined -- Duncan could have stuck it straight into his health clubs, and Kellie knows about design.

Crisps -- a good investment imo since they've already got national retailers and basically are just skint. Piers is right that there are already competitors in supermarkets but it's a young market. Hopefully they'll find an angel who was watching.

how people gonna buy them kin crisps now? loads!
very smart move going on the show

Could be a problem for her with those trainers, did she say it was her idea?  Remember Adidas Adicolour from 1980, coloured pens in the box for your own designs .

Tank -- I don't get it.

Shoes to draw on -- dunno. A bit like crisps in that if they've already got it into big chains, it might be profitable, but while I can see children might want a pair, I can't see them wanting a second pair once their feet have grown a bit. Glad she got the offer but let's see.

Radiator cover -- no. I don't see how the business scales. Mind you. I don't know who buys that generic art you see in the diy shops.

Photo frames -- no. Their designs were rubbish and if it looked like succeeding, established companies could do it better. No-one saw Peter's offer coming. I might need to play it again to check what happened.

the trouble i have with the crisps is the more obscure brands are very hard to get in the shops. i know theyre supposedly healthier, which helps, but think of stuff like brannigans. theyre one of the nicest crisps going, but virtually impossible to actually buy the damn things. all but the biggest supermarkets just fill the shelves with the same old walkers, doritos, whatever else. very hard to break into that monopoly.

im glad most of the dragons thought the frames were crap, cos as soon as i saw them i thought no way i want that ugly ass thing on my wall. looks slightly better on shelves, a bit retro i suppose, but still £20+ is absurd. id love to know how they cost 8 quid each to make, may as well just buy a bulk load of much cheaper ones from a pound shop that look just as crap.

On again bbc2

id watch it again, weird as that sounds, but ive just put on the blu ray of one flew over the cuckoos vest.

That'll depress you Bob....you know it always does

probably, but the big guy escapes at the end which is nice.

Have you seen Game of Thrones?

nope, not at all. not even a smidgeon of it.

Nor me....son has watched it all streaming it but says the free pirate sites are all being closed down

Watch them all here, no downloads or signing up.

http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/game_of_thrones/

Comes up with : Error - site blocked

Could be my anti-virus

Are you with Virgin? I understand they block access to streaming sites.

No....BT

bannatyne hasn't bought nothing in the last 5 series - he's practically skint living in a log cabin somewhere in Skegness I believe

In that case, Leopard, sorry but I don`t know what to say. Shame, as it`s an excellent site.

you missed it again. im watching it recorded from earlier. again.

the average brit spends 15k in their lifetime on curry. wtf??
ive probably spent about 20 quid. on 15 frozen birds eye currys. in 40 odd years. never had a takeaway one or had one in a restaurant. curry is just spicy gravy, init?

im gonna offer you all of the money. but i want 150% of the business.

Sounds a very reasonable figure to me bob. Say about 12 curries a year in a restaurant, with a few beers that's about £300. Times by say 30, that's £9K Add to that supermarket buys, another £1500. I reckon I'm up to 10 grand so far so £15K by the time I peg out would be about right.

If you name your kid Harry potter you can save £18.99

I went on Dragons Den the other night and showed them my Dad's shotgun.

Peter Jones said, "And what's your idea?"

I replied "It's a simple concept Peter, just put the money in the f*cking bag!"


(Credit to Bigmo for that one)

Curry bloke who has made £1 million then spent it on two cash-losing curry houses based on microwave-based food that he wants to take national? He does not seem to have anything other than a desire to be rich.

yeh i dont even like curry, but even i can tell that people who buy it kinda want it vaguely fresh. otherwise theyd just get a frpzen one out the freezer.

pizza is all about sharing but other foods are different. I wouldn't even share my naan around my mates.

Dog food was interesting. I used to work with someone who left to set up his own dog food company. I guess in a limited sense there is the same paradox as in the curry franchise bloke -- the people who buy niche dog food don't want the mass-produced stuff, but to make serious money they need to get their new food mass-produced and on the supermarket shelves.

What I think Piers missed in his fear that if they were successful, the big pet food companies would just undercut them, is that it is far more likely that one of the existing firms would buy them out, making everyone rich.

Deborah was the right dragon -- her little black book was the crucial factor. They were daft to turn her down.

Coloured shaving gel -- what's the point?

Shaving in the dark?

no idea. i wouldnt buy it. crazy product.

Breakfast -- haven't they wandered down a supermarket cereal aisle lately? Granola and muesli brands are ten a penny. For the third time tonight, there is the tension between fresh and mass-produced.

Otoh, I liked their fist bump in the lift and suspect that one day they'll be successful but maybe not selling cornflake substitutes, even with two dragons.

Taxidermy? No.

Personalised story books? Dunno. Maybe. Who knows?

no idea. i wouldnt buy it. crazy product.

Absurd. Like a fashion item only you (the person shaving) will ever see -- unless you get it on your shirt collar in which case it looks gross.

Catching up on iplayer and feeling slightly nauseous after some dodgy fish and chips.

Estate agents website -- Peter Jones is wrong on the 50 per cent rate but it is an unpromising business model. Silly sod hasn't even put the web address on his prop.

Tea -- sounds promising but surely there are other firms already doing this. Is trilemma really a word? (They chose Kelly over Deborah and Peter.)

Dog collar/lead combo -- what's the point?

Peanut butter -- maybe. The Americans are very fond of the stuff so I suppose the market can grow here.

I`m thinking of going in the den with my latest invention. A digital tv recorder that records programmes you don`t like and plays them back when you are out

Hair extension hangers -- no idea.

Cider -- they were pretty open about wanting a Dragon rather than the money itself. They got Duncan.

I like the new food and drink den.

Find a food or drink you can ponce up a bit. Find someone to manufacture it and stick a fairly modern label on it.

Go to Dragons Den a few months later and collect tens of thousands of pounds.

There is an element of that, @Crisp77.

The market is there in the sense there are people looking for high quality convenience foods. Whether the supermarket shelf space is there, is another question.

I get the feeling the Dragons may have been burnt in the past -- they now often warn that supermarkets squeeze suppliers' profit margins after an initially attractive deal.

Dog collar/lead combo -- what's the point?

Indeed. Didn't undestand this at all; unless I missed something.

You mean other than the woman was as daft as a brush ?

Aug 4, 2014 -- 3:03AM, Ramruma wrote:

There is an element of that, @Crisp77.The market is there in the sense there are people looking for high quality convenience foods. Whether the supermarket shelf space is there, is another question.I get the feeling the Dragons may have been burnt in the past -- they now often warn that supermarkets squeeze suppliers' profit margins after an initially attractive deal.

I think they assume with the number of Dragons Den viewers they stick it on a shelf after the show and hope it will sell some good numbers. If it does repeat business great, if not the supermarket just put something else on the shelves and the Dragons have a tax write off.

the dog lead woman was erm barking.

apart from it looking ridiculous, the collar serves several purposes. 1 it lets you put maybe a name/phone number on it if the dog goes awol. 2 it gives the owner a bit of control over the dog. but most importantly, yup this is 3, it gets the dog used to having something round its neck. its bound to be more at ease having a lead attached to a collar that is permanently there, than just having it stuck on when it goes out.

but even beyond all that, how the hell is it easier or quicker?? it takes about half a second to clip a lead on to a collar. was it 90k she said she spent on developing it?? or 60k? summat silly anyway. unbelievable jeff.

crazy idea