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pandora1963
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because they fail to spot a cancer....yes,like they fail to spot it on purpose....vote these k unts out next year whatever way you do it,just dont put your mark against a tory candidiate
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Report Burton-Brewers • June 29, 2014 7:37 PM BST
doing a fine job
Report 1st time poster • June 29, 2014 7:38 PM BST
they shud get their heads together and refuse to diagnose any coalition mp,s they might examine, Wink
Report sideshowbob • June 29, 2014 7:45 PM BST
id rather they just struck off gp's who couldnt spot mr t at an edl march
Report sideshowbob • June 29, 2014 7:47 PM BST
there are obviously some gp's that arent as good as others. if they continually show theyre useless, they should be struck off. not really sure why any other action would be appropriate.
Report Jack Hacksaw • June 29, 2014 7:56 PM BST
The more whistle-blowers the better.

There are enough covers up as it is.

FFS get the incompetent staff out.
Report Aunty Post • June 29, 2014 8:13 PM BST
My wife was diagnosed by a young female doctor as having fibroids!

No question of a specialist referral or any other considerations.

Eighteen months later she was admitted for a hysterectomy and she had advanced "Ovarian Cancer"!

We lost her on 3rd July 2001.
Report portmanpark • June 29, 2014 8:19 PM BST
aunty post............thats awful..........hope you took it all the way..........know it wont bring your mrs back but someone should be accountable....my son in laws gran was given pain killers for a bad back ......she had lost a lot of weight...........by the time she saw a specialist it was too late
Report Jack Hacksaw • June 29, 2014 11:18 PM BST
I did start typing about my wife's friend who repeatedly went to her GP complaining about terrible headaches - but then decided not to post it.

But, I will…...after being told she had nothing to worry about, they finally arrived at a diagnosis of depression.

It turned out she had a brain tumour and died within weeks of the proper diagnosis.

What a shame pandora chooses to try and make political capital out of issues such as these.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 12:10 AM BST
i know for a fact my gp would never take any symptoms i have seriously. waste of time going.

theyre obsessed with thinking this is unlikely, that is unlikely. yeah, they are, but they still happen to people every day.
Report naydam • June 30, 2014 12:17 AM BST
I think it would be a major step forward if GPs had the courage to say "I'm not sure" and call for a second opinion. Incompetence is not knowing when you don't know!

My sympathies to the posters who have experienced the results of a 'too-late' diagnosis.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 12:34 AM BST

Jun 29, 2014 -- 2:13PM, Aunty Post wrote:


My wife was diagnosed by a young female doctor as having fibroids!No question of a specialist referral or any other considerations.Eighteen months later she was admitted for a hysterectomy and she had advanced "Ovarian Cancer"!We lost her on 3rd July 2001.


thats shocking. i know it happens, but it shouldnt. you should be able to trust your gp, i only dont trust mine cos ive had several and theyve all been pretty useless. i have type 1 diabetes (the one you use insulin for) and one gp talked to me about how it must be hard to have to limit how much sugarry things i eat. i just looked at her thinking "you havent a clue have you"...

i didnt say anything, but sugar doesnt raise blood glucose, carbs do. whether or not the carbs are from rice, potatoes, bread, cereal or a donut really doesnt make much difference. it works in different ways, some carbs turn to blood glucose faster than others, but at the end of the day for type 1 diabetes carbs is carbs. pretty staggering a gp doesnt know that.

Report doantwin2easy • June 30, 2014 12:37 AM BST
You'd like to think that a vast majority of misdiagnoses are resultant from time and resource deficiencies within the NHS as opposed to arrogant or incompetent GP's.

I think that some GP's have become so consumed by time constraints and the overwhelming pressures from the wailing masses that they have become almost blazee in their approach to the average patient.

Educate people on what to look for that is serious, and equally what isn't.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 12:41 AM BST
gp's are practically receptionists. they havent got a clue about anything. people give them far too much respect. most of the stuff they say are word for word quotes off the internet.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 12:44 AM BST
its not all their fault, theres just too much to know that they cant possibly know. the problems arise when the gp's think they know more than they do.

thats why specialists exist. the good gp's spot what could be wrong then get the real doctors to find out what really is wrong.
Report doantwin2easy • June 30, 2014 12:51 AM BST
yes SSB but they are under pressure

a) to see patients quickly
b) to limit referrals

and with some problems it's not always easy to spot the wheat from the chaff.

On the flip side, for one reason or another, I agree that a lot of GP's suffer from an attitude problem.
Report holmesdale1 • June 30, 2014 12:53 AM BST
Sideshowbob, you are correct.
General practitioners is what they are called, and that is exactly what they are.
I have had two situations with family members that I feel if handled differently may have resulted in a happier outcome.
Report doantwin2easy • June 30, 2014 1:02 AM BST
My dad was sent away time and again with lung problems by his GP before he was finally sent for a lung x-ray and died of mesothelioma a few months after.

My little girl was turned away with having nothing but a cold on two separate occasions by GP's before I decided enough was enough and took her to A and E and was quickly diagnosed with pneumonia.
Report Al Dente • June 30, 2014 1:10 AM BST
Most Physicians are piss-poor at diagnosis, and yes, I do mean most.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 1:12 AM BST
well that is true. in the old days it was much easier to be a gp, just give a referral. end of story, move on to the next patient. these days youre in and out like a cow being slaughtered. its just take these pills and make another appointment if you arent better or dead. the whole things a total mess. if i had an inkling i may have cancer of some sort, first thing id do is see if i can get a private scan done asap. cut out the nhs gp entirely. obviously for a lot of people, they cant even afford to do that. its a shambles.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 1:18 AM BST
i had what my gp said was probably bacterial pneumonia for close on 6 months the other year. just kept getting different antibiotics that didnt work and told to come back once the course was finished if im not better. cant be right that somehow.
Report doantwin2easy • June 30, 2014 1:22 AM BST
yeah horrible sht SSB. My little one was panting and could barely open her eyes.
Report sideshowbob • June 30, 2014 1:36 AM BST
im sure your kid was a lot worse than i was. worse for a kid anyway. was bad enough for me, felt like a dagger stabbing my chest when i went out in the cold. just going to the corner shop was a struggle, could barely get my breath. probably 3 months of that then another 2 or 3 months til i properly felt ok again. must have been given every antibiotic they do.
Report Ramruma • June 30, 2014 7:58 AM BST
Name and shame? Not training, checklists or new diagnostic tests? Ah well, I suppose as long as it looks like the government is doing something ...
Report Jack Hacksaw • June 30, 2014 8:09 AM BST
So, the tabloid headline 'Name and Shame' actually refers to improving the reporting of the performance of GP surgeries - and making that information more widely available.

Why would most people not support that???

I would hope that training, and checklists already exist!
Report SlippyBlue • June 30, 2014 8:52 AM BST

Jun 29, 2014 -- 7:02PM, doantwin2easy wrote:


My dad was sent away time and again with lung problems by his GP before he was finally sent for a lung x-ray and died of mesothelioma a few months after.My little girl was turned away with having nothing but a cold on two separate occasions by GP's before I decided enough was enough and took her to A and E and was quickly diagnosed with pneumonia.


Exactly the same thing happened to my Dad.

Report dewey • June 30, 2014 11:45 PM BST
'so now this govt want to name and shame GP's'...about time too!
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