anyone think england can stick 4 past uruguay tonight??

Yeah he was definitely a bit concussed for a minute.

Surprised they've allowed him back on if he was unconscious - even if he was out only for a few seconds.

1-0 @ 3.5.

ah it will soon be Euro 16 before you know it

Very funny BB!

England 8.2 to win now.

Yep, I'm really looking forward to Euro 2016 B-B, I think we could possibly get out of the group stage in that.

with the way Roy likes to play and the players he likes I think his system is wrong, I thought the same against Italy. He's trying to play 2 wing backs and hoping Gerrard can step is as an extra centre half when the wing backs get caught up field, it failed for Italy's 2nd goal and it has failed for tonights goal. If he wants attacking wing backs then ffs go 5-4-1 with 3 dedicated centre backs.

Unders is 1.25 now, I'll wait til 80. minutes and then get rid.

At last!

Rooney, why didn't I get rid

toldya

On at 10/1

That could have been a penalty. Hanging on for unders

well done Leopard. Lay off, won't cost u much.

Yes Kenny mann, you did say..

May hang on for the win

You have to at least take your steak back TL.

Cahill has played well. No nonsense player.

Cashed out

greedy leopard. 1-1 is way odds on.

slow typer

Please no more goals.

Oh how easy was that for Suarez.

What a sickener that was.

Uh ohhhhh !

ffs sickener

What was Hart doing?

Lol, they're 'kin' useless.

Gerrard can retire now hopefully

I win on the horses but give it back on soccerball

England to win at 40/1 ...small bet

What was Hart doing?

He'd no chance.

Suarez's knee gone?

serves him right for playing

Needs drug testing....full of painkillers?

There was an interview shown last night with Suarez where he said "I know how these players think, what they do. I play with and against them all year".

Never has a goal compounded a statement more correct.

How can England qualify from the group now?

If they do lose I can't wait for the post-mortems.

We've heard them all before though, many times - many times.

It's some ridiculous permutation, S&G. We'll hear all about it for the next few days, no doubt.

We need Italy to win last 2 and we must beat Puerto and finish 2nd on goal diff.

quite simple really.

only way is Italy beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and we score 2+ against costa Rica, it ain't going to happen

What a complete and utter shambolic performance. We'd struggle to beat The Faroe Islands.

f uck

Revoke Suarez's Visa !

Suarez is a horrible little runt of a man - but he's one hell of a fantastic footballer.

I'm past caring chaps to be honest. Unders has caused me a body blow in this tournament.

Try arbing

"you pick a team to suit a system not a system to suit a team" Alf Ramsey

Not as easy as it sounds. Requires skill, speed and judgement.

que the fighting to start in luton , bedford or jersey

"We need Italy to win last 2 and we must beat Puerto and finish 2nd on goal diff."

Can't see that happening Kenny mann. I'm sticking to horse racing as every cent I have won in the last week I've lost on football.

SEE ABOVE

And I don't even like the game.

stick to what your best at mate.

15/2 to qualify

stupid odds who in their right mind would take that?

it's about the right odds.

will be less with bookies.

I will do G, I won't say how much but it was certainly a kick in the stotts. That third goal was not what the doctor ordered to say the very least.

Good man.

From tomorrow.

Bad luck S&G.
Better luck tomorrow with the 'osses.

Yeah mate, from tomorrow..You're a top banana kenny mann 

Poyet summed it up perfectly there: "If you don't defend, it doesn't matter what you create" [paraphrased]

I thought so too, Tommy.

I'm glad I don't let it get to me anymore. Jesus I was in a bad way when we lost to Germany at Italia 90, I was in the pub at 7.00 and god knows how many pints I drank. I was distraught when we lost and all I can remember was going to a local micro brewery who sold 4 pint carry out kegs, it was really strong bitter and I supped it all walking home. I awoke in the morning on the settee with spew all in my ear and all over my hair, I was covered in mud stains and the wife went totally ballistic which is unusual for her. I had to have the rest of the week off work I felt that ill. What I had done you see was believe the press hype, I really thought we would win it. The only problem is we are not as good as we like to think we are, but every tournament the media build us up as world beaters. Euro 96 was another example "its coming home" but there was no way I was getting carried away again, mind you I had been warned. I've never been that disappointed since because I have never let them get my expectations up, however this time I do think the media have held back a bit for a change.

Italy may want to avoid Columbia, who they'll meet probably, if they finish 2nd so I would think they'll want to finish top of the group, so not all lost yet.

kenny

what makes you think England will beat Costa ?

we.re doomed

the 7's on offer for Costa beating us are tempting

Capt. I didn't say I thought we would beat Costa. Just explaining what needs to happen for us to progress.

Since 1966, every 4 years, the English believe they can win it again. And I couldn't believe the price changes on here, the money poured on England before Uruguay scored their first goal, you'd think they had 15 men on the pitch. Unrealistic odds that you don't see in normal matches.
After England equalised they went favourite again!! I was tempted to back Uruguay at that stage of the match as the price was too high imo, but I left it, ffs.

Do we play Costa before or after Italy play Uruguay?

We both play next Tuesday at 5-00, so if Italy can beat Costa tonight, hope springs eternal.

Same time Kenny. Last matches in the groups kick off at the same time.

c 11/2 on here that England qualify

It (8/13) v CR
It (7/4) v Ur
Eng (1/2) v CR

= c 11/2

Seems a tad short to me....

cheers Cobblaz, we were 8/1 to qualify

I can Italy winning both and us failing to do our bit.

So if Italy win tonight it's only a 13/8 shot that we qualify.

hang on not right

13/5 shot on current match odds

Huh?

c 3/1 Eng qualify assuming It beat CR

It (7/4) v Ur
Eng (1/2) v CR

works out a tad over 13/5 in my book

2.625

7/4 = 36.36%
1/2 = 66.67%

0.3636 * 0.6667 = 0.242

= 24.22%

= 3.13/1

Well done. You passed that little test I set very well.

actually the true odds are 2.625, but you're correct if we're putting them in a double for betting purposes.

"true"

Que?

Assuming the current odds for the individual 2 games are correct, the odds for Italy AND England to win on Tuesday are 2.625/1

We're not working out the price of the double.

For England to qualify two unrelated events must both happen. That's a double.

mmm, my head's spinning now. Not sure about this at the mo.

For a double you add an extra point on for the second part of the bet so I think my answer is correct. Wouldn't stake my cat's life on it mind.

I think you're confusing this with a bet on the double. We're not betting on it, just trying to establish the true odds.

I think you're confusing this with a bet on the double. We're not betting on it, just trying to establish the true odds.

What are "true odds", conceptually? And why, in the context of two independent events, should they differ from a double?

This is not an issue I have encountered before.

I'll think about it over a few jars tonight.

Just treat 7/4 and 1/2 as a double but don't add your stake back on for the 2nd leg.

2.625

Why do that? Doing that means the answer does not equate with plain probabilities. How can it mean anything?

at least Her Majesty will now keep her dignity, God bless you ma'am