The Top Gear stuff was merely light hearted comedy. Routine tongue in cheek humour.
While Coogan's article in the guardian article was written in retaliation to that. It was personal, insulting and written with malicious intent to cause offence.
And it's Coogan who comes out of it as the bad guy here.
The Top Gear stuff was merely light hearted comedy.Routine tongue in cheek humour. While Coogan's article in the guardian article was written in retaliation to that. It was personal, insulting and written with malicious intent to cause offence.And it
I think Coogan like most of us are sick of the **** pumped out at us 24 hours a day. The bbc think they are supplying gold - i'm tired of moyles, cordon, brucie, ross, evans and all the other vapid twigglets that give us their opinions on stuff i have no interest in. Even Steve coogan has not been entertaining in years.
I think Coogan like most of us are sick of the **** pumped out at us 24 hours a day. The bbc think they are supplying gold - i'm tired of moyles, cordon, brucie, ross, evans and all the other vapid twigglets that give us their opinions on stuff i hav
The comments came during a discussion about a Mexican-built sports car:
Hammond (left): …Cars reflect national characteristics, don't they, so German cars are very well built and ruthlessly efficient, Italian cars are a bit flamboyant and quick, a Mexican car's just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight... (laughter) leaning against a fence asleep, looking at a cactus, with a blanket with a hole in the middle as a coat.
May: It is interesting, isn't it, because they can't do food, the Mexicans, can they? Because it's all like sick with cheese on it, I mean... (laughter)
Hammond: Refried sick!
May: Yeah, refried sick.
Hammond: I'm sorry, but just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican: 'awww, no'. (laughter)
Clarkson: No, it'd be brilliant… because you could just go straight back to sleep again.
tbf, Coogan is bang on the money the above transcript is truly pathetic. Not even based on anything, it is just being insulting to a group of people for no apparent reason. Anyone who laughed at that is like those kids that hang around the school bully laughing as the bully beats up a wee kid.
WHAT THEY SAIDThe comments came during a discussion about a Mexican-built sports car:Hammond (left): …Cars reflect national characteristics, don't they, so German cars are very well built and ruthlessly efficient, Italian cars are a bit flamboyant
Stewart Lee is funny as phook, not all the time but when he is funny, he's really funny. I still giggle when I think of him saying the only difference between the politician rats is the david cameron rat wears chinos
Stewart Lee is funny as phook, not all the time but when he is funny, he's really funny.I still giggle when I think of him saying the only difference between the politician rats is the david cameron rat wears chinos
Anyone who laughed at that is like those kids that hang around the school bully laughing as the bully beats up a wee kid.
Yet wishing someone's three daughters go blind is viewed as regular comedy?
Marvellous stuff from rob.
Anyone who laughed at that is like those kids that hang around the school bully laughing as the bully beats up a wee kid. Yet wishing someone's three daughters go blind is viewed as regular comedy?Marvellous stuff from rob.
He wasn't wishing someone's three daughters go blind he was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of top gear to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of top gear.
He wasn't wishing someone's three daughters go blind he was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of top gear to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of top gear.
Stewart Lee goes on to wish all 3 of Clarkson's daughters go blind, and it was genuinely hilarious.
My mistake, I can see where I went wrong now - lol.
Oh sorry rob, I must have misunderstood this:Stewart Lee goes on to wish all 3 of Clarkson's daughters go blind, and it was genuinely hilarious. My mistake, I can see where I went wrong now - lol.
If not you're like one of those outraged politicians who give quotes to the daily mail regards some obscene film/tv programme/art installation/book/song whatever without ever even seeing/watching/listening to the film/tv programme/art installation/book/song.
If not you're like one of those outraged politicians who give quotes to the daily mail regards some obscene film/tv programme/art installation/book/song whatever without ever even seeing/watching/listening to the film/tv programme/art installation/bo
I haven't seen the clip rob, but I can understand now that you've told me that he didn't really wish that Clarkson's daughters go blind. He was merely using that as an extreme example, to highlight the kind of humour that Clarkson uses.
I haven't seen the clip rob, but I can understand now that you've told me that he didn't really wish that Clarkson's daughters go blind. He was merely using that as an extreme example, to highlight the kind of humour that Clarkson uses.
Well he specifically says that is what he was doing, in fact I've just copied what he said adverbatim.
You don't reckon I'm smart enough to use words like rhetoric do you? Nah he was just explaining what he was doing at the end for the benefit of daily mail readers/journos. Didn't work, as the Daily Mail actually did an article asking the question he had specifically already answered for them in the show.
Well he specifically says that is what he was doing, in fact I've just copied what he said adverbatim.You don't reckon I'm smart enough to use words like rhetoric do you? Nah he was just explaining what he was doing at the end for the benefit of dai
To be fair to Coogan I've never warmed to him or his humour so this may be something of a biased opinion but for someone who you would presume is quick witted and insightful I've watched open mouthed at some of his awful monologues when invited onto Question Time. I wish he wouldn't do it to himself.
To be fair to Coogan I've never warmed to him or his humour so this may be something of a biased opinion but for someone who you would presume is quick witted and insightful I've watched open mouthed at some of his awful monologues when invited onto
I like Top Gear, Stewart Lee, and Coogan was good as Partridge and in The Trip.
I'm sure Clarkson and Co couldn't give a phook what Lee or Coogan says, and vice-versa
I like Top Gear, Stewart Lee, and Coogan was good as Partridge and in The Trip. I'm sure Clarkson and Co couldn't give a phook what Lee or Coogan says, and vice-versa
No I don't think that Clarkson and co care what was written about them either.
They know that the Guardian would have told Coogan what they wanted him to write anyway. That's if he did write it, or someone else wrote it for him and he was paid to put his name to it. I wouldn't be surprised if Coogan hasn't even read it himself. He's too busy watching Top Gear on the telly.
No I don't think that Clarkson and co care what was written about them either.They know that the Guardian would have told Coogan what they wanted him to write anyway. That's if he did write it, or someone else wrote it for him and he was paid to put
Clarkson is a very shrewd, clever and funny guy, Imo. May is OK. The Hamster is a complete waste of space, at least he takes up less space than most adults though, fair play to him for that.
Clarkson is a very shrewd, clever and funny guy, Imo. May is OK. The Hamster is a complete waste of space, at least he takes up less space than most adults though, fair play to him for that.
Clarkson is the most predictable man on telly and extremely tedious. You see him meek as a schoolboy however when in the company of hislop however on HIGNFY as he knows hislop is pretty likely to show him up as the cardboard cut out tax payer funded 1 act tit that he is.
Clarkson is the most predictable man on telly and extremely tedious.You see him meek as a schoolboy however when in the company of hislop however on HIGNFY as he knows hislop is pretty likely to show him up as the cardboard cut out tax payer funded 1
the cardboard cut out tax payer funded 1 act tit that he is.
Who has just signed a contract for £12million with the BBC. I'd say that Clarkson is a pretty smooth operator who knows exactly what he's doing. He knows which buttons to press and how hard to push them.
I wonder what he's really like?
the cardboard cut out tax payer funded 1 act tit that he is. Who has just signed a contract for £12million with the BBC. I'd say that Clarkson is a pretty smooth operator who knows exactly what he's doing.He knows which buttons to press and how hard
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Top gear presenters just telling it how it is. Coogan lost the plot in recent years, sad to see him writing such rubbish, he needs to bring back Paul calf .
Top gear presenters just telling it how it is. Coogan lost the plot in recent years, sad to see him writing such rubbish, he needs to bring back Paul calf .
The fact clarksen takes tax payer's money to promote his own brand of bigotry for a self gaining ego trip is the very reason the license fee shouldnt apply to light entertainment tv. The guy opines on right wing ethics about thatcherist principles of looking after oneself at the cost of the many and the beeb pander to this tripe by lazily thinking this is entertainment. Its by the bigots for the clique tv funded by the masses, whats right and proper about that?
The fact clarksen takes tax payer's money to promote his own brand of bigotry for a self gaining ego trip is the very reason the license fee shouldnt apply to light entertainment tv.The guy opines on right wing ethics about thatcherist principles of
Steve Coogan states that when Alan Partridge says similar racist/bigoted stuff to Clarkson that is fine because the joke is abundantly clear and not about the target but about Partridge himself. Whilst this is of course true, it does nothing to halt thousands of borish people repeating the same lines over and over again and therefore enforcing the stereotypes for another generation. Top Gear is amongst the most popular show in the world and probably watched by the most diverse types of people of any TV show. Personally, although I watch it, I wouldn't bother to catch up if I missed an episode, its just a bit silly...... nothing to get so upset about..
I love Partridge and The Trip, but I hate feckers with a superiority complex, and I think Steve Coogan has one.
Steve Coogan states that when Alan Partridge says similar racist/bigoted stuff to Clarkson that is fine because the joke is abundantly clear and not about the target but about Partridge himself. Whilst this is of course true, it does nothing to halt
what nonsense so coogan only has a legitimate argument if clarkesen dares to have a go at coogan? which I suspect he hasnt the balls to. Coogan seems a decent sort, calls for a general better understanding of the surroundings we all live in, whats wrong with that? clarksen a 2d one trick tw4t
what nonsenseso coogan only has a legitimate argument if clarkesen dares to have a go at coogan? which I suspect he hasnt the balls to.Coogan seems a decent sort, calls for a general better understanding of the surroundings we all live in, whats wron
Clarkson does a piece on the telly designed to entertain. No harm done to anyone just simple tongue in cheek humour.
Then Coogan writes an article in a newspaper designed to insult and give offence.
I suppose it comes down to your own standards how you view that.
It speaks for itself really.Clarkson does a piece on the telly designed to entertain. No harm done to anyone just simple tongue in cheek humour.Then Coogan writes an article in a newspaper designed to insult and give offence.I suppose it comes down t
yet clarkson who opines about Laissez-faire capitalism gets paid for his ignorant portrayals by the masses through subsidy, while coogan has to make do with creating products to be judged by the market
yet clarkson who opines about Laissez-faire capitalism gets paid for his ignorant portrayals by the masses through subsidy, while coogan has to make do with creating products to be judged by the market
crony foooking capitalist BBC pandering to some 2 bit tit who talks about a clique subject while artificially funding the tool with all our money. they said about the iraqi war, 'not in my name' then why the fook are we all paying this to55er? its not in our funkin name. you want to touch tails with him an his bigoted ideology then fuc k off anf 'buy' it
crony foooking capitalist BBC pandering to some 2 bit tit who talks about a clique subject while artificially funding the tool with all our money.they said about the iraqi war, 'not in my name'then why the fook are we all paying this to55er?its not i
Clarkson does a piece on the telly designed to entertain. No harm done to anyone just simple tongue in cheek humour.
Have Mexicans become invisible ? As you plainly haven't read the article I'll repeat some ...
'As a huge fan of Top Gear I normally regard the presenters' brand of irreverence as a part of the rough and tumble that goes with having a sense of humour. I've been on the show three times and had a go at their celebrity-lap challenge, and I would love to receive a fourth invite. But I think that's unlikely once they have read this. If, however, it makes the Lads question their behaviour for a second – ambitious, I know – it will be worth it.
I normally remain below the parapet when these frenetic arguments about comedy and taste break out. But this time, I've had enough of the regular defence you tend to hear – the tired line that it's "just a laugh", a bit of "harmless fun".
Some of the Lads' comments again, in case you missed them. "Mexican cars are just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight, leaning against a fence asleep looking at a cactus, with a blanket with a hole in the middle on as a coat" (Richard Hammond). Mexican food is "sick with cheese on it" (James May).
Jeremy Clarkson added to the mirth by suggesting that the Mexican ambassador (a certain Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza) would be so busy sleeping he wouldn't register any outrage. (He wasn't and he did.)
OK, guys, I've got some great ideas for your next show. Jeremy, why not have James describe some kosher food as looking like "sick with cheese on it"? No? Thought not. Even better, why not describe some Islamic fundamentalists as lazy and feckless?
Feel the silence. They're all pretty well organised these days, aren't they, those groups? Better stick to those that are least problematic.
Old people? Special needs? I know – Mexicans! There aren't enough of them to be troublesome, no celebrities to be upset. And most of them are miles and miles away.'
No harm done to anyone Dr Crippen ?
Dr Crippen 18 Jun 14 18:58 Clarkson does a piece on the telly designed to entertain. No harm done to anyone just simple tongue in cheek humour.Have Mexicans become invisible ?As you plainly haven't read the article I'll repeat some ...'As a huge fan
Clarkson does a piece on the telly designed to entertain.
what about offend?
No harm done to anyone just simple tongue in cheek humour.
how would you define "tongue in cheek humour" crippen?
Clarkson does a piece on the telly designed to entertain.what about offend?No harm done to anyone just simple tongue in cheek humour.how would you define "tongue in cheek humour" crippen?
Are there actually any Jewish cars out there, Steve? Or Islamic fundamentalist ones come to that? (Apart from the Toyota Hilux obviously.)
I'd say "Feel the silence" here, if that didn't sound so cringeworthy.
Are there actually any Jewish cars out there, Steve? Or Islamic fundamentalist ones come to that? (Apart from the Toyota Hilux obviously.)I'd say "Feel the silence" here, if that didn't sound so cringeworthy.
For sfb - Tongue-in-cheek is a figure of speech used to imply that a statement or other production is humorously or otherwise not seriously intended, and it should not be taken at face value.
Wiki.
Now how do you define the motives behind Coogan's piece that was designed to insult and give offence?
For sfb - Tongue-in-cheek is a figure of speech used to imply that a statement or other production is humorously or otherwise not seriously intended, and it should not be taken at face value.Wiki.Now how do you define the motives behind Coogan's piec
was just reading how celebrity grunge trollop Courtney Love finally decided to gave up drugs after her two week fling with Steve Coogan, as she realised she had hit rock bottom!!! and coming from her that is quite an insult
was just reading how celebrity grunge trollop Courtney Love finally decided to gave up drugs after her two week fling with Steve Coogan, as she realised she had hit rock bottom!!! and coming from her that is quite an insult