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Report cardifffc • May 9, 2014 1:13 PM BST
it will destroy my faith in humanity if rolf is guilty........
Report Crisp77 • May 9, 2014 1:19 PM BST
Looking bad for him. Lots of witness statements.

The witnesses don't know each other but all recounting the same story of seeing him in a long raincoat with what appears to be a third leg popping out.
Report Mc Moonbeam • May 9, 2014 1:22 PM BST
................."can you tell what it is yet"Mischief
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • May 9, 2014 1:32 PM BST
and why exactly did he want someone to tie his kangaroo down?
Report xmoneyx • May 9, 2014 1:35 PM BST
known as the octopus

jake the peg with the exta leg

conspiracy theory one
Report Mc Moonbeam • May 9, 2014 1:42 PM BST
New video evidence has just been released

Quite brutal stuff , tbh Sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrpfPv8WC2c
Report Crisp77 • May 9, 2014 1:49 PM BST
Preceding that video was Mo Farah advertising Quorn mince Plain
Report Angel Gabrial • May 9, 2014 1:52 PM BST
Rolf must have a lot of look-a-likey`s back in the day, and the raincoat look is quite generic.
Report brendanuk1 • May 9, 2014 4:48 PM BST
"Dear (the father),

"Please forgive me for not writing sooner. You said in your letter to me that you never wanted to see me or hear from me again, but now (the alleged victim) says it's all right to write to you.

"Since that trip up to Norfolk, I have been in a state of abject self loathing. How we delude ourselves.

"I fondly imagined that everything that had taken place had progressed from a feeling of love and friendship - there was no rape, no physical forcing, brutality or beating that took place.

"When I came to Norfolk, (the alleged victim) told me that she had always been terrified of me and went along with everything that I did out of fear of me.

"I said 'Why did you never just say no?'. And (the alleged victim) said how could she say no to the great television star Rolf Harris.

"Until she told me that, I had no idea that she was scared of me.

"She laughs in a bitter way and says I must have known that she has always been scared of me. I honestly didn't know.

"(The alleged victim) keeps saying that this has all been going on since she was 13. She's told you that and you were justly horrified, and she keeps reiterating that to me, no matter what I said to the contrary.

"She says admiring her and telling her she looked lovely in her bathing suit was just the same as physically molesting her. I didn't know. Nothing took place in a physical way until we had moved to Highlands. I think about 1983 or 84 was the first time.

"I can pinpoint a date was 1986, because I remember I was in pantomime at Richmond.

"When I see the misery I have caused (the alleged victim) I am sickened by myself. You can't go back and change things that you have done in this life - I wish to god I could.

"When I came to Norfolk, spent that time with (the alleged victim) and realised the enormity of what I had done to (the alleged victim), and how I had affected her whole life, I begged her for forgiveness and she said 'I forgive you'.

"Whether she really meant it or not, I don't know. I hope she did, but I fear she can never forgive me.

"I find it hard to like myself in any way, shape or form. And as I do these Animal programmes, I see the unconditional love that dogs give to their owners and I wish I could start to love myself again.

"If there is any way that I could atone for what I have done I would willingly do it. If there is a way I can start to help (the alleged victim) to heal herself, I would willingly do it.

"With your permission I'll phone you in a week to talk to you. If you hang up, I will understand, but I would like to talk to you to apologise for betraying your trust and for unwittingly so harming your darling (the alleged victim).

"I know that what I did was wrong but we are, all of us, fallible and oh how I deluded myself.

Please forgive me.

"Please forgive me for what must have been the most insensitive thing in your eyes - sending the book for Christmas. Alwen knows nothing about all this - at the time - and rather than tell her I signed the book and wrote the platitudes with sinking heart.

"Forgive me."


Rolf was 56 in 1986, doesnt look good
Report Ken Masters • May 9, 2014 4:55 PM BST
I've posted it before but everything you need to know is in here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiG9jXzejEY
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • May 9, 2014 5:09 PM BST
good film that ken. I also note it's near the Beware of Homosexuals film which was posted by someone here a few years back Grin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otXIaIxkWTI
Report Howdi • May 9, 2014 6:53 PM BST
1-8 to go down
Report A_T • May 9, 2014 8:30 PM BST
What about the charges of "making indecent images of children"? Should be fairly easy to prove or otherwise.
Report Helissio • May 9, 2014 8:32 PM BST
Imagine if you got a letter like that about your daughter.

Do you think Clinton sent one to Lewinsky's dad?
Report sideshowbob • May 9, 2014 8:37 PM BST
poor rolf. stop picking on him.
Report A_T • May 9, 2014 8:53 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2VvcOHi2E8

A reminder of happier times for Rolf. Those girls at the start looked just the right age for him (allegedly).
Report posy • May 9, 2014 8:53 PM BST
when was the letter written ?
Report Cobblaz • May 9, 2014 11:41 PM BST
1997
Report TheBetterBettor • May 10, 2014 12:31 AM BST
^^^^ why didn't he report the letter back then?
Report Cobblaz • May 10, 2014 12:33 AM BST
why didn't who report the letter?
Report tobermory • May 10, 2014 1:28 AM BST
I presume he means the father

Can't see the relevance of when the letter was given to the police  , not as if the authenticity is being disputed which it isn't far as i know.
Report breadnbutter • May 10, 2014 6:39 AM BST
kenny will be along to explain it away ....its all a mistake and the victims dont suffer any abuse ,,,usual chit chat sh1t


yawn ........animals are more important and its all a mistake.....rolf ...carrots rolf rolf carrots ...victims of abuse dont suffer any long term effects ...animals ...cats ...carrots ..rolf ralf porcalin truck ralf rolf .....he innocent  .he a nice man .

cat picture ...brush away ......animals cats rolf ralf ....puke
Report brendanuk1 • May 10, 2014 7:14 AM BST
Letter is more evidence of a manipulative nature imo, grooming the girl, the father, and must have know the letter might surface later so throw in some dates and dispute it started at 13. His career is finished, so lets hope justice is done
Report stewardsenquirey • May 10, 2014 7:39 AM BST
No offence,but why not let the jury do their job.
If he is guilty then bang him up,but the Phrase "Inocent until proven Guilty" seems to have fallen by the wayside.
I'm not Pro Rolf,but if it turns out he gets off his life is still ruined because everyone will still think he is a nonce case.
Too many people just read the rags and think case closed.
Report sofiakenny • May 10, 2014 7:41 AM BST
go to the chit chat forum and read the rolf harris thread..he writes to the father of a victim and spills his guts..i dont think there is any doubt about the authenticity of the letter.
Report sofiakenny • May 10, 2014 7:43 AM BST
oopsBlush
Report stewardsenquirey • May 10, 2014 7:46 AM BST
No ooops from me.Amazed how The World Famous Chit Chat Forum(on a Betting Site) has managed to get hold of a signed confession.Any point of a trial then ? May as well just hang him ?
Report brendanuk1 • May 10, 2014 8:01 AM BST
for me he is a "nonce" or whatever a 56yr old is called who bangs a 16yr old daughter of a friend. which is what he admits.

15 yr, 360 days or 16yr 1 day makes no difference to me. Agree let jury rule on the technicalities of the law
Report stewardsenquirey • May 10, 2014 8:06 AM BST
Brendan,if it comes out he did then I'm not defending him.It just seems a few cases are decided before they go to court.
Report xmoneyx • May 10, 2014 8:12 AM BST
I hav a Rolf painting

seriously worried about its value
Report stewardsenquirey • May 10, 2014 8:18 AM BST
Laugh
Toilet paper if he goes down
Toilet paper if he gets off
Silly
Report xmoneyx • May 10, 2014 8:24 AM BST
homosexual film

tell your kids never wear a white t-shirt SillyCool
Report stewardsenquirey • May 10, 2014 8:27 AM BST
WhoopsLaugh
Report The Bhoys • May 10, 2014 10:51 AM BST
In all seriousness wat is wrong with these people? I met a girl a while back who was 19, im 28 and i was very edgy txting her wen i found out her age
Report TheBetterBettor • May 10, 2014 10:55 AM BST
Can't see the relevance of when the letter was given to the police

If he attacked other girls after writing the letter, then that would be the relevance.
Report sideshowbob • May 10, 2014 11:21 AM BST
im fed up with people saying nasty things about rolf.
i met him when i was little, lovely man. he got us all to play "guess the sausage" blindfolded. had us all in giggles when he we were trying to guess what kind of sausage it was and he'd come out with his catchphrase "can ya tell what it is yet?". im still not convinced it was a cumberland though.
Report Clungehungry • May 10, 2014 11:58 AM BST
why The Bhoys?
Report thebandit • May 10, 2014 12:05 PM BST
Crisp77 • May 9, 2014 1:19 PM BST
Looking bad for him. Lots of witness statements.

The witnesses don't know each other but all recounting the same story of seeing him in a long raincoat with what appears to be a third leg popping out.

Ah but that'll give him an extra leg to stand on it court surely...???
Report xmoneyx • May 10, 2014 12:46 PM BST
heres his worst crime




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwlcYhZ99KQ
Report The Bhoys • May 10, 2014 1:04 PM BST
Clunge i just thaught she was a bit young for me, didnt meet up again anyhow she got back with her fella lol
Report Clungehungry • May 10, 2014 1:13 PM BST
Sounds like you were probably right, but emotionally and intellectually, age ceases to become a factor. I know a 36 year old who is extremely vulnerable and have met any number of 18 year olds who aren't. We kid ourselves if we draw blank lines on account of age. If he's slept with an underage girl then by all means let him be held accountable, but if both were consenting adults, I wouldn't condemn him out of hand.
Report The Bhoys • May 10, 2014 1:17 PM BST
Mate i was up for meeting her again but she has a kid and went back to england to be with the father, i do look a lot younger than 28 but 19 is a bit pushing it i think, altho im not very mature for my age Mischief
Report Mc Moonbeam • May 10, 2014 3:49 PM BST
For me i think stamina would become the main problem , these younguns like it all night long and in every conceivable position .. how the hell did Rofl ever keep up Plain
Report call me a taxi • May 10, 2014 4:02 PM BST
According to the BBC report she was still being abused (if it's the same woman) by Harris when she was 29 years old.
I don't understand that, at the age of 29, if it was against her will, unless she was what they call a 'special needs' child these days.
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 4:17 PM BST
call me........more like a stupid child
Report call me a taxi • May 10, 2014 4:51 PM BST
Stupid child or not, if she wasn't mentally impaired she must have known it was wrong if it was against her will by the time she was 18 at the latest. How could it carry on for 11 more years with nothing being said?
Report Sparrow Hawk • May 10, 2014 5:08 PM BST
The jimmuy saville allegations and the possibility of compo concentrated a few minds
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 5:12 PM BST
call ...i agree
Report Mc Moonbeam • May 10, 2014 5:24 PM BST
if she was mentally impaired that's as good as being a pedophile imo
Report The Bhoys • May 10, 2014 5:35 PM BST
29 like wtf? something not right here
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 5:47 PM BST
mc moon.......dont think she was
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 5:49 PM BST
think her case is 7 of the 11 charges........the most stupid lawyer of all time couldnt fail to get him off those charges
Report Mc Moonbeam • May 10, 2014 5:53 PM BST
ahh yep i see now  , i just really don't like that kinda stuff preying on vulnerable individuals Sad
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 6:10 PM BST
if  she wasnt a vulnerable person she should know at 29 if she was being abused.......dont think any jury would believe her..........its like the barlow rape victim going to meet him in house after the 1st rape
Report Shrewd_dude • May 10, 2014 6:34 PM BST
Stupid child or not, if she wasn't mentally impaired she must have known it was wrong if it was against her will by the time she was 18 at the latest. How could it carry on for 11 more years with nothing being said?

You don't think people over the age of consent are capable of being sexually or physically abused?
Report call me a taxi • May 10, 2014 6:36 PM BST
Not if they have normal mental capacity I don't, no.
Especially not for 11 years.
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 6:37 PM BST
sd.....but they would have to be pretty stupid imo
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 6:39 PM BST
this girl has got to have learning dificulties............if not surely theres very litle chance of a conviction
Report Shrewd_dude • May 10, 2014 6:40 PM BST
Why not?

Lots of people are victims of domestic abuse over periods of several years.
Report call me a taxi • May 10, 2014 6:40 PM BST
They are idiots then.
Report cardifffc • May 10, 2014 6:42 PM BST
sd......she didnt live with him......so how did it happen.......
Report Shrewd_dude • May 10, 2014 6:45 PM BST
Why?
Report Shrewd_dude • May 10, 2014 6:46 PM BST
What relevance is that? I don't' know how it happened she hasn't even given evidence yet.
Report kenny mann • May 13, 2014 10:23 PM BST
so the girl who's accusing Rolf

A Asked him for £25,000

B Made a note in her diary on the day of the alleged assault, "Had a great day at Rolf's".

Is that correct?

Ive only heard snippets.
Report brendanuk1 • May 13, 2014 10:32 PM BST
this the 16yr old girl he admits banging when he was 56 or a different one?
Report brendanuk1 • May 13, 2014 10:35 PM BST
his mates daughter?
Report kenny mann • May 13, 2014 10:42 PM BST
Ah, not sure.Half heard the diary bit on the radio in the hairdressers, and the £25K request 20 mins ago on the News when I was on the 'phone.
Report kenny mann • May 13, 2014 10:43 PM BST
I assumed it was his daughter's friend.
Report Capt__F • May 13, 2014 10:44 PM BST
perm or highlights ?
Report Clungehungry • May 14, 2014 1:00 AM BST
Quite a fightback from his defence today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627024/Today-great-What-teenager-wrote-diary-day-claims-molested-Rolf-Harris.html
Report terry mccann • May 14, 2014 8:48 AM BST
ive heard other stuff about rolf which may or may not come to light,on the same subject of course
Report pumphol. • May 14, 2014 8:58 AM BST
Cannot believe the charges bought against him from yesterdays alleged victim ever came to court, seems to me they were added to beef up other charges to try & make the evidence insurmountable, to me all this does is harm the prosecution case overall in my opinion.
Report posy • May 14, 2014 7:15 PM BST
he's going down...nap
Report A_T • May 14, 2014 9:10 PM BST
What happened to the making indecent images charges? He was charged on 4 counts with this but they don't seem to be part of this trial.
Report Clungehungry • May 14, 2014 10:50 PM BST
What stuff is that Terry?
Report xmoneyx • May 15, 2014 1:05 PM BST
TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN--NAP
Report A_T • February 5, 2015 7:27 PM GMT
poor Rolf - just can't seem to catch a break

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31156427
Report JohnTerry • February 5, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
its him again
Report JohnTerry • February 5, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
its him again
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