News of the World hacked Milly Dowler's voicemail

nah its know from the start practice was wide spread. Hopefully plod have got their finger out and are actually persuing leads instead of sh!tting themselves that their masonic mates might read they have been knobbing someone other than their wife.

Ginger looks like she's for the chop.

James Murdoch next.

James Murdoch to be replaced by Piers Morgan maybe ;)

RNLI, RSPCA, The Brooke, Care International, Thames Reach, Action Aid, WaterAid, Salvation Army, VSO, RSPCA, Oxfam and  Barnardo’s all reject notw free ads.

Its very very toxic it seems

iF all these businesses and charities are so appalled will they not want any business or donations from the 3 million who read it as well on sunday as those people reading it are supporting the paper

Step up Betfair!

Yes, a perfect oppotunity

Nice video here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-nick-davies-rupert-murdoch-video

saying the new police investigation is ripping through NI and has faith that they will arrest Rebekah is evidence is there. Murdoch not in control about who he gives up and who he doesnt.

I can't believe how precious those fecking charities are for turning there noses up at free advertising in the NOTW. Disgusting, if you ask me - they obviously have more donations dosh rolling around than they know what to do with.

RSPCA are so skint they are no longer taking dogs in.

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I can't believe how precious those fecking charities are for turning there noses up at free advertising in the NOTW. Disgusting, if you ask me - they obviously have more donations dosh rolling around than they know what to do with

...or they are sussed enough to figure out they are being used to gold plate a t-urd.

Indeed.
Take the short term gain, or look at the bigger picture.

It could damage them long term.

How can it possibly damage them long term? More likely that turning down the opportunity to generate money will imo.

I am surprised just how high the level of indignation with NOTW is, I thought everyone was aware that journalists and newspaper editors are scumbags and that media barons are power-crazed slimeballs. What happens when all the other papers get exposed for all their naughty goings on? Do we end up without a tabloid press? Whilst what NOTW has done is deplorable, nobody has died from it and I feel all perspective has gone out the window.

If I were a charity I would grasp the free advertising with two very grateful hands and chose to see it as at least something positive that has come from this sleazy affair - as I'm sure any business would.

Whilst what NOTW has done is deplorable, nobody has died from it and I feel all perspective has gone out the window.

A well-known actors' daughter committed suicide after being exposed by the NOTW as being homeless and a prostitute. The NOTW allegedly got this info by paying police.

The kid who originally played Mark Fowler in Eastenders, David Scarboro. also killed himself after press intrusion. Particularly from the NOTW.

'Elements of the UK tabloid press reported that Scarboro had been fired from the show for turning up late for filming and being uncooperative on set. Away from the series Scarboro initiated libel proceedings after several national papers published inaccurate stories about his private life, but the press continued to pursue him and his family. The News of the World discovered that Scarboro was in a psychiatric unit, and published photographs of the place. Scarboro subsequently left the unit because he could no longer get adequate treatment, and inaccurate stories about his condition were being published.

He committed suicide in 1988[2] by throwing himself from Beachy Head.'

A_T, she could have been exposed by any of the papers legitimately with the same tragic result. How did the police know she was the daughter of a famous actor?

pixie the police knew who she was otherwise there wasn't any information worth selling. Don't think this is being blown of proportion that is what many want you to think - there are also allegations of attempting to smear police involved in investigating a paper's PIs as part of a murder enquiry. Just how much more serious do you want it to be?

five leaves left, many argue that Princess Diana was killed because of press intrusion too, but there is nothing that can be done about it. Britain is proud that it has a free press and free market. If people like to read salacious exposés then there will always be victims.

there is nothing that can be done about it

Tell that to Coulson

there are also allegations of attempting to smear police involved in investigating a paper's PIs as part of a murder enquiry. Just how much more serious do you want it to be?

I wasn't aware of this and it would be a far more serious offense, imo, if it were true. However, if you are just regurgitating internet gossip then you are no worse than the newspapers that you appear to despise.

keep up with the facts its been all over the telly!

I am surprised just how high the level of indignation with NOTW is, I thought everyone was aware that journalists and newspaper editors are scumbags and that media barons are power-crazed slimeballs.


Yeah, but now it's official

pixie - http://goo.gl/FZrFb

Don't fall into the trap of thinking this is all gossip and just about a few phones being hacked that's just many people want.

*just what many people want.

Thanks for the link, A_T.

It's ok guys, we're having not one but two inquiries. I'm sure many recommendations will be made. Many failures identified.

And then the whole thing will be forgotten about and the rich boys can continue playing God with the country safe that they will always always be above the law.


Bring back the militias.

Wonder if we will find out who the gay Royal was or if Cameron took cocaine

The gay Royal?

I wonder if we'll find out which one is straight.

Harry at a guess, but I wouldn't be sure of any of the others.

Great link A_T.

Who the feck does Brooks think she is?

She needs taking down.No one voted for her and Murdoch to run this country.

Chris Bryant MP had the temerity to ask Brooks and Coulson in Parliamentary Committee whether they had ever paid police. Since then the Sun has relentlessly hounded Bryant (who is gay).

Bryant recalls the last time he met Brooks: http://goo.gl/2Gy4E

People need to be careful what they wish for in these days of Twitter and the like.Fact is NOTW is read (not purchased) by an audited 10+ million people every week and it WILL BE MISSED.

Theyve done some bloody good exposes over the years.I'm not talking about prem footballers porking brasses and the like(does anyone really care if a rich young sportsman is boning some glamourous simpleton?)

I'm not sticking up for the paper,as probs only ever read it once or twice a year and it's mainly just a knockabout rag for the undemanding reader it never. pretended otherwise.

Sure it will be replaced by another tentacle of newscorp etc and i've no doubt whatsoever that a number of people will do prison time for these pretty damn awful episodes.But do people really think the police have never tipped off journos? they used to tip Dickens off ffs! and will be tipping off journos until time immorial,or that political aprties will never or have neevr embraced the biggest media organs of the age?

I'm as outraged as anyone over the phone tapping allegations and the ginger monstrosity wil hopefully be getting anally dildoed at her majestys beheist!

But aside from the lefties having a w'nk fest at a Murdoch wobble,and hordes of friendless homosexuals using the "power of Twitter" to bring down the worlds best selling english language newspaper,waht will be next for the "nations" outrage?

Too much power to the people imo....the Chinese KNOW

know your place proletariat, business as normal will be with you soon

So you'd rather we all just shut up and continue to be raped and pillaged by those we put in power?


I love seeing things like this happen because it shows that even in 2011 after becoming possibly the most watered-down, spineless and gutless nation in the West we can still show a bit of passion when something is clearly wrong.
Unfortunately there is a lot wrong with the country but we only ever get worked up when the Media tell us to.

interesting that the social media seems harder to control by the elite. If it helps people to think for themselves and not be passive recievers of media views then it must be a good thing

I hope this is just the start of social media flexing its muscles.

Okay so you get your share of nutters in here, on Twitter, Facebook etc but at least they can't hide behind some legitimising agent like a newspaper.

Plus also, you run any line of bullsh1t in an Intenet forum and you get your thinking straightened out pretty damned sharpish. Immediate right of reply. What a brilliant system!

No filtering by so-called journalists pushing their master's bullsh1t agendas. Sounds good to me!

I'm sure the NOTW must have done some worthwhile journalism in the past it's just that I can't remember any. Be genuinely interested to know when was the last scoop they had that was of real benefit to society?

Much as i abhor corporates like Tesco and their ilk,the thought of "people power" bringing huge organisations to the ground overnight is a very sobering one indeed.

I'd sooner have a free press than not.And the masses really do need to be controlled to some small degree,why the hell do people think the likes of China and Russia came about?i'm not advocating North Korea or Hitlers Germany but you can't have a free for all.We all enjoy the liberal freedom of uk life and blaming the NOTW for corrupt journos and old bill is hardly of any use.These slugs will always be present in large orgnaisations

Have your revolution by all means but be prepared to live with the consequences when you can't get a sun dried tomato or an organic Haluomi for love nor money never mind an egyptian lime for my G@T

Bon Vivvy

I don't think it's just the lefties having a w@nkfest at a Murdoch wobble.

I think the campaign against the NotW was grounded in public revulsion from right across the social and political spectrum, against an organisation that has lost its moral compass up the ar$e of the profit motive.

I heard more what I took to be nice middle-class ladies from the Home Counties calling phone ins expressing their disgust, than I did Dave Sparts from the People's Republic of Liverpool for example.

At the idea that free press is somehow under threat, you can still have free press without the illegal hacking of peoples phones and emails...

Hmm it's interesting to apologists squawking about the freedom of the press and trying to lump good campaigning journalism in with their 'right' to hack the phones of rape victims, as if abohernce of the latter means you want to do away with the former.

AT

Since when has the NOTW offered to "benefit society" it's simply easy reading material for the masses and a huge revenue earner in it's concept.It wouldn't be hard to argue if the Telegraph and Guardian had ever really enriched the day to day lives of the average man in the street?

It was a populist rag nothing more and it's dodgy journos will hopefully meet a very sticky end,it was bad practice whoever you worked for.And tbf i dread to think how far this one will stretch accross all the papers and their journos past and present.This is about corrupt and very bad practice not the NOTW per se

So the NOTW is no loss then.

free press is euphorism for a press above the law, unregulated and rampant in its persuit of cash not stories.

Best journalism in last few years has been Guardian over this and Telegraph over mps expenses.

Someone was saying the other day that Murdoch revolutionised football, no he didnt he made it a commodity to make money out of, as he did with celebrities private lives, murder & rape victims and soldiers deaths

spot on brendan

The NOTW had to go, end of really,typical Murdoch team culling.As the journos involved worked there it's first to fall on it's sword.The disgust is indeed palpable and that is never in doubt regardless of politics.

My point being this appears to be more about small groups of corrupt journos/old bill/private dicks etc than Murdochs personal directive.

For the record i'd break his empire upto into at least 20 pieces,that kind of market dominance is never right in a news organisation,but getting involved in a "hate murdoch" thing diverts the actual issue..imo

this appears to be more about small groups of corrupt journos/old bill/private dicks etc than Murdochs personal directive

His son authorised hush money to the first people to sue. This is about Murdoch and how he operates make no doubt about it

It's not about hating Murdoch it's about a huge media organisation that has behaved illegally and immorally to make money.

Since when has the NOTW offered to "benefit society" it's simply easy reading material for the masses

Agreed.

Trouble is, when you market yourself to the masses then make sure you don't deviate from business rule No1. DON'T do any thing that could rouse the masses outrage by miring your business in scandal involving the death of a child or the death of a soldier. Make a f**k up of that and you'll get whats coming...

a huge media organisation that has behaved illegally and immorally to make money.

That would be fair enough and the company would be open to market forces of people saying thats fookin crap I'll buy something else.

NI is so powerful in uk society that its law breaking and immorality even when brought to the attention of the police and elected mps went unpunished. That era is over it seems and I am glad.

Does it make tomorrow a better place who knows

The restriction of NI's power can only be a good thing. Seems clear that there has been a culture of fear amongst people who in theory should be on the public's side (policians, police). Unless they did what was required (smooth the way to greater and greater control of the media or at least not oppose it) the NOTW and the Sun would be utilised to make them suffer. For some time now NI's ultimate agenda in the UK has been the complete ownership of SKY - this now looks in jeopardy.

one or two advertisers now showing murdoch that he's done the wrong thing, and pulling advertising from all NI papers.

How many slimy characters connected to Coulson, Brooks, Murdoch etc are having a very paranoid and uncomfortable weekend thinking the worst?

That in itself brings a smile to my dish.

yes reckon I think these slimy characters will this weekend resemble the saturday night live creation Nathan Thurm!!!!

BskyB value gone from £14.9bn to £13.1bn in 5 days.

Here's an audio of the ginger one trying to explain herself to her staff.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/407840-rebekah-brooks-addressing-staff-courtesy-of-sky-news

You'll notice it's courtesy of sky news

Rebekah Brooks has told News Of The World staff she was aware of worse revelations to come and they would understand in a year why the paper is soon closing, Sky sources say.

what the f@ck could be worse????? The mind well and truly boggles

Peculiar scenes today of police taking Coulson's computers away after giving him plenty of notice that he was going to be arrested. Should've been kiicking his door in at 3am surely. Lots of time for him to get file shredder from download.com and cover a few flabby arses.

The truth is that Mulcaire was only one of a dozen different investigators, many of whom used other illegal techniques. And the News of the World, as journalists all over Fleet Street know, was not the only enthusiastic employer of these dark arts. Mulcaire and his phone-hacking became the single focus through the simple fluke that he was clumsy enough to get caught interfering with the voicemail of the royal household — the one target which would finally move the police into taking on a Fleet Street paper. The police famously failed to look beyond him, and it is only now that the rest of the truth is beginning to emerge.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/08/phone-hacking-scandal-jonathan-rees

Rees and Fillery ran a "private investigation" firm Rees was linked to the axe murder of his business partner, Fillery got done for 15 counts of making indecent images of children. Rees was a mason and used the lodges to meet policemen, Fillery was ex detective sergeant.

they were only one link from fleet street to the met. Guardian has pages and pages of the sh!t

Rees, who had worked for the paper for seven years, was jailed for planting cocaine on a woman in order to discredit her during divorce proceedings. After his release from prison Rees, who had been bugged for six months by Scotland Yard because of his links with corrupt police officers, was rehired by the News of the World, which was being edited by Andy Coulson.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/11/news-of-the-world-police-corruption?intcmp=239

And let's not forget as well Detective Superintendent Dave Cook who was investigating Rees was spied on by the NOTW.

The paper's editor Rebekah Brooks is reported to have attended a subsequent meeting with the Metropolitan police, during which she was informed about police concerns over one of her senior journalists, Alex Marunchak.
Marunchak had apparently agreed to run surveillance on behalf of private detectives Jonathan Rees and Sid Fillery, who were suspected of murdering their former partner Daniel Morgan.

Why were they spying on Cook? The answer seems obvious. There is something incredibly rotten here. And the perhaps the most staggering thing is that until the Milly Dowler story went viral noone wanted to know.

http://goo.gl/uVedS

so...does anyone have any idea of what the :worse to come: is?

**** sake if all this really will come out some big media people, top police will be spending a long time inside , not to mention some politicans .i just hope liar blair is caught right in the middle

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/08/ed-miliband-broken-omerta-old-monster

id pay good money to relive this week,polly toynbee article above

Fascinating read rommel.Thanks for posting it.

agreed. cheers Rommel. Love the sound of the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act

It's not entirely surprising that the opposition is the first to call for an enquiry etc but an interesting article yes. I've no major favourites amongst the parties, and I'd like the government to do well, but appointing Coulson does seem to have been a big mistake!

I was suprised to read this on the Guardian daily blog:

The Church of England Commissioners for England owns £3.7m ($6m) of News Corp shares. In a letter to Murdoch, the chairman of the church's Ethical Investment Advisory Group, investment banker John Reynolds, warned insisted that the board of News Corp "takes all necessary measures to instil investor confidence in the ethical and governance standards" of the company.

I would not have thought the Sun and the NOTW was the sort of thing in which the Church should be investing it's money.

agreed HH,the juicy paragraph(guardian,polly toynbee)...why its running down my cheeks

Meanwhile, US law may enter the fray. A former Labour cabinet minister has alerted attention to the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes an American company (News Corp) liable for colossal fines if any employee bribes a foreign official (the Met police) even if no one at head office knew. What's more, any whistleblower inside the company (sacked News of the World reporters), stands to win a percentage of that fine if they report acts of bribery

not cheeks,chinnnnnnnn arrrse ha

"not cheeks,chinnnnnnnn arrrse ha"


Thought you'd had Mandelson round

apparantly they are doubling the amount of NOTW papers tommorow for the expected demand

As usual the yanks are coming in late to the battle! Carl Bernstein in newsweek

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/10/murdoch-s-watergate.html

The hacking scandal currently shaking Rupert Murdoch’s empire will surprise only those who have willfully blinded themselves to that empire’s pernicious influence on journalism in the English-speaking world. Too many of us have winked in amusement at the salaciousness without considering the larger corruption of journalism and politics promulgated by Murdoch Culture on both sides of the Atlantic

News International, the British arm of Murdoch’s media empire, “has always worked on the principle of omertà: ‘Do not say anything to anybody outside the family, and we will look after you,’ ” notes a former Murdoch editor who knows the system well. “Now they are hanging people out to dry. The moment you do that, the omertà is gone, and people are going to talk. It looks like a circular firing squad.

These tributes to the NOTW are ridiculous - it never made a positive contribution to British life.

Earl spencer on the radio this morning about what the notw did to him,sickening stuff

good article yesterday about just what it means when these fckn vultures are on your case,i'll have a look for it

Guardian reporting:

2.04pm: Police have been handed internal News International memos from 2007 which appear to acknowledge that the practice of phone hacking was more widespread than previously thought.

I predict some mysterious terminations in the near future...

So, did anyone buy a copy???

Nope....they didn't con me into thinking they were a bunch of quireboys ....

Mirror tomorrow saying 9/11 victims hacked

http://twitpic.com/5o9wj1

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/terror-in-wapping-as-murdoch-flies-in-to-pick-up-the-pieces-2311632.html



They feel they are getting unfairly blamed for not stopping the takeover and the impression is growing that they are still in the pocket of the company. "We always knew we were going to have to eat a **** sandwich over the BSkyB deal," said one. "We didn't know it would turn into a three course dinner."

I am against fox hunting,but in this case it is only right that the ginger vermin is hunted down and destroyed.

I expect hapless hubby feels a right Charlie. Then again, I get the impression that there might well be some revelling in this appalling notoriety.

I agree,alun...and what a very scary woman his wife is.

I think it might be those cold,feral eyes,alun.

Like a wild animal cornered,ready to strike......

I think it might be those cold,feral eyes,alun.

Like a wild animal cornered,ready to strike......

Ys I get the picture M. Alain.

Sometimes apparently it's quite nice to meet a scary woman, you know, the librarian who goes home to her boots and whip and all that, not that I know anything about that obviously your Honour, but even I would draw the line at the inexplicably un-arrested one.

Have a good day everyone. Just off to the library.

i hope there are still a few horses left in the stable when the door is closed


well played milipede

Culture Sec Jeremy Hunt to make Commons statement within next 20 mins

The stement in question being:

"Nanny!! I want Bitty!"

Gordon Brown targeted while Chancellor and PM

Cameron's finished unless he acts decisively soon

is this not watergate ? cameron wont be pm much longer.

where is the snide cameron?? hiding the feckin coward

I hope Nick Davies of The Guardian is receiving 24-hour protection. The way this is panning out, he's likely to wake up with a dead horse's head in his bed.

I'd love it if Cameron was forced to resign as a result of this.

The most concerning thing about this is that Bellfield got rid of his car the following day,
but with the police thinking she was still alive this wasn't as important as it could have been. Did this keep him on the streets to commit his later murders?