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Delightful
08 May 10 13:34
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If Clegg does throw in with The Conservatives, I fear for us all. You had better hope your circumstances don't change because if you lose your job or home, there will be nothing for you here.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-welcome-to-cameron-land-1962318.html
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Report Delightful • May 8, 2010 1:36 PM BST
Sorry, here is the link.

http://tinyurl.com/2vkhwaw
Report STEPTOES YARD • May 8, 2010 1:36 PM BST
Yep because things are so fantastic now for the masses of skilled unemployed, 1 million teenagers out of work and millions of 1 parent benefit dependent families.

Labour got hammered for a reason.
Report Delightful • May 8, 2010 1:45 PM BST
Labour 'got hammered' because people are blaming them for the state of the economy.  We may be an island but we don't exist in isolation. The world recession has caused our economic downturn, not Labour policies.

A snippet from this article, for those of you who can't be bothered to click through:

'The Conservative administration was determined to shrink the size of the state and cut taxes as an end in itself. Rather than pay for it by taking more from the people in the borough with the most money, they slashed services for the broke and the broken first. After the homeless, they turned to help for the disabled. In their 2006 manifesto, the local Conservatives had given a cast-iron guarantee: "A Conservative council will not reintroduce home-care charging". It was a totemic symbol of leaving behind Thatcherism: they wouldn't charge the disabled, the mentally ill or the elderly for the care they needed just to survive.

Within three months, the promise was broken'.
Report STEPTOES YARD • May 8, 2010 1:50 PM BST
Oh yeh, silly me, funny how little Brown spoke of global economics when taking full praise for the good times and now suddenly the bad times are zilch to do with him and his decisions
Report panglima • May 8, 2010 1:57 PM BST
Having seen the place I have worked in for the past 30 years turn into a Ghetto since labour has come to power I cannot believe things could actually get worse with a new Govt.
Report Delightful • May 8, 2010 2:00 PM BST
Unfortunately, time will undoubtably tell pumps. :(
Report David Fishwick Minibus Sales • May 8, 2010 2:02 PM BST
There may be a lack of replies because that link was posted several times the other day Delightful.
Report hcafc • May 8, 2010 2:04 PM BST
Delightful how the 'Broken promises' line omitted Labour's broken promises on electoral reform, the Lisbon treaty and not raising income tax.

Selective memory in full flow.
Report Delightful • May 8, 2010 2:06 PM BST
Thanks David, I don't come here all the time so didn't see it. I don't suppose this new forum is helping either, it's certainly not user friendly. Is anyone else finding their refresh button doesn't work?.
Report hcafc • May 8, 2010 2:08 PM BST
Refresh button is like the Labour party - useless.
Report Delightful • May 8, 2010 2:12 PM BST
Hcafc, lets see if you still think Brown is the worst PM after five years of Cameron's leadership.
Report bix • May 8, 2010 2:28 PM BST
Brown was only following the usual Labour policy of spending money it doesn't have to make things look good. Unfortunately, just as with personal finances there's a day of reckoning and now its pay back time which aint going to much fun for any of us.
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 2:52 PM BST
wd Del sock it to them :)

borrowing has gone up but on other threads I read that we owe as much as Greece.
That is totally misleading ! Greece owes 150% of their GDP while we owe less than 50% of ours.

To simplify if you earn £30,000 a year the equivakent is borrowing £15,000.
Report Delightful • May 8, 2010 3:28 PM BST
Hi c-c. :) What a lot of people seem to be overlooking is that part of the reason for our current financial situation, world recession aside, is that we have been at war for most of Labour's time in government. War's are expensive and the Labour government, did what they thought was right to try and keep our country safe. I think things could have been done differently as though I personally agreed with the war in Afghanistan, I did not agree with the decision to go into Iraq,  as I thought it made sense to resolve one situation,(as far as possible) before addressing (attacking) another and that we risked spreading ourselves too thinly. Then again, it's easy for me to say this when I don't have others' safety resting on my shoulders.
Report munch man • May 8, 2010 3:31 PM BST
i thought we went into iraq before afghanistan?  this time around anyway.
Report munch man • May 8, 2010 3:36 PM BST
I cannot stand David Cameron.  I think he will prove to be a dreadful Prime Minister which, of course, will be a considerable improvement on Gordon Brown.
Report supersavo • May 8, 2010 3:55 PM BST
Labour & Pompey, both followed Clown-onomics, Pompey now busto and 9 points deducted..

UK - busto, and another few months of the Liars would have seen the IMF in and our credit rating slashed.
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:00 PM BST
agree with you totally Del regarding the invasions.

Iraq wasn't justified but there is and was a case for attacking the terrorists on Afghanistan. It's not as if we are at war with the whole population.

pumphol

I notice you said 30 years which includes the 17 years of Tory government.
Report panglima • May 8, 2010 4:02 PM BST
No disrespect C-C but I had no complaints about the area in 1997 or before.
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:06 PM BST
panglima Joined: 26 May 05
Replies: 9196 08 May 10 13:57 
Having seen the place I have worked in for the past 30 years turn into a Ghetto since labour has come to power I cannot believe things could actually get worse with a new Govt.
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:08 PM BST
sorry pumphol ... now I've c+p'd and reread it I see what you are saying.

So the mass immigration in the area ( which I assume is what you are refferring to started in 1997 ?
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:09 PM BST
( which I assume is what you are refferring to )
Report munch man • May 8, 2010 4:09 PM BST
panglima just said he'd worked there for 30 years, not that it had been in decline for 30 years.
Report panglima • May 8, 2010 4:10 PM BST
I cannot see what your getting at C-C
I replied to your comment & you cut & paste my earlier post ?
Report munch man • May 8, 2010 4:12 PM BST
this forum is hardly condusive to chatting is it!!!
everything takes such a long time our comments get jumbled up and there is no coherence to the conversation.
Report panglima • May 8, 2010 4:12 PM BST
No worries C-C
Also its not just about immigration, the area has has always had a large ethnic population.
Report citizen kane • May 8, 2010 4:14 PM BST
david tells better fairytales than gordon so thats why he was elected but not as good as tony imo.
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:17 PM BST
Which government policies have brought about the change pumphol ?
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:26 PM BST
This forum is a bit like a long distance telephone call more than 50 years ago Grin
Report panglima • May 8, 2010 4:29 PM BST
C-C give me a ring at the shop on monday we can have a chat
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:32 PM BST
ok CryDevilShockedSilly
Report curious-cat • May 8, 2010 4:32 PM BST
I don't want to get you banned. Laugh
Report panglima • May 8, 2010 4:40 PM BST
Nothing I would say is worth a banning C-C, more to do with local govt as much westminster.
Report Carlo Gambino • May 8, 2010 5:22 PM BST
Defullofshightful Joined: 09 Jul 04
Replies: 156 08 May 10 13:45 
Labour 'got hammered' because people are blaming them for the state of the economy.  We may be an island but we don't exist in isolation. The world recession has caused our economic downturn, not Labour policies.

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What a load of shight.

You mean The Independent has articles that aren't about how the end of the world is nigh.


Wow.
Report STUDYFORM • May 8, 2010 9:15 PM BST
Carlo, are you on the Tory payroll?
Every time ANYONE says anything against your beloved bunch of selfish barstads, you steam in as if trying to protect your job.
Report call me a taxi • May 19, 2014 12:41 PM BST
FIGHT!!
Report Howdi • May 19, 2014 12:43 PM BST
tories doing good job imo
Report call me a taxi • May 19, 2014 2:03 PM BST
of what?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • May 20, 2014 12:13 AM BST
curious-cat 08 May 10 14:52 Joined: 03 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 29,235 | Blogger: curious-cat's blog
wd Del sock it to them :)

borrowing has gone up but on other threads I read that we owe as much as Greece.
That is totally misleading ! Greece owes 150% of their GDP while we owe less than 50% of ours.

To simplify if you earn £30,000 a year the equivakent is borrowing £15,000.


And now, after less than 4 years of Conservative government, we owe over 90%!
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt-to-gdp

Government spending under the Cons and Lib Dems has skyrocketed. Osborne is borrowing monumental sums of money, with no intention of ever paying it back. UK debt has been rolled over into longer and longer term bonds to fuel this spending orgy (or "austerity" as the Conservatives call it), but at some point one of his successors will have to lead the country into either default or hyperinflation.
Report Capt__F • May 20, 2014 12:21 AM BST
sure i read Cameroon land but had a  few
Report crags • May 20, 2014 12:52 AM BST
Nice to see munch man there. One of the forum good guys.
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