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Well, actually, don't bother, I am just saying that I am.

When did this become the "Newham" forum.

It must have 100x threads devoted to it than any other place in the UK.

Isn't there a 'Friends of Newham' forum that people could drone on about it on?
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Report BillKiller • February 6, 2010 12:04 AM GMT
I'm looking at the pictures. I find them very interesting.
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:04 AM GMT
Custom House, Canning Town, Plaistow, Silvertown and North Woolwich (all parts of Newham) were crammed with dockers.

When they got their severance money a few**ed it away but the majority got out of the Borough with it, to Essex mostly.
Report a bitofinterest • February 6, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
shweeet as a nut shun
Report sparkmaster. • February 6, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
:-)
Report a bitofinterest • February 6, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
IT WAS MARVELLOUSLY MIGRATED SPARKY
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:08 AM GMT
My dad was the first one in our family not to work in the docks.

His younger brother did though, and he got a massive claim for a dodgy accident in the early 60s. He moved to Woodford Green, which was ultra-posh then, then moved uo Norfolk where he had a house and about a dozen caravans at Heacham Beaches.

My gran died in 1962/63. When my grandad and dad died, both in 1977, he sold up and moved to Eastbourne where their sister lived, for the rest of his life.
Report den perry • February 6, 2010 12:09 AM GMT
Cheers Charlie.what about the likes of Whitechapel, Wapping, Stepney? East End but not docks orientated? name a few good boozers East of the river for a booze up
Report den perry • February 6, 2010 12:10 AM GMT
where abouts you from Charlie? do you still live there?
Report a bitofinterest • February 6, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
"im a bit of a nosy git chas" :^0
Report crediter • February 6, 2010 12:13 AM GMT
isle of dogs......enrys place.....do they still sell friary meax in or around rectory road.
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
If you wander into North Woolwich, find the Royal Standard, only 400 yards from the ferry. If the crowd are the same they may seem a bit 'clicquey' at first, but they are all diamonds.

In Plaistow you want the Army and Navy in New Barn Street, the saloon bar, not the public bar. Not a big pub, but it does get busy.

No good pubs in Canning Town these days.

My local, the Sultan, went to Compulsory Purcahse Order about 3 years ago.

I don't know any pubs outside Newham well enough to recommend them.
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:17 AM GMT
I'm from Custom House, the bit that joins on to Canning Town that nobody has ever heard of. :)

I live in west Norkolk now, got out of London for good in 2005 after serving just over my half century.
Report a bitofinterest • February 6, 2010 12:17 AM GMT
have you ever been in a turkish bath with nicholas van wotsisface and peter rachman ?
Report den perry • February 6, 2010 12:17 AM GMT
Cheers Charlie....I probably am a bit nosey lol
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:18 AM GMT
Look at my 16-40 post on the 2nd Feb.
Report den perry • February 6, 2010 12:23 AM GMT
looked at it already actually. great photos.My uncles wife from milend and she used to teach me ryhming slang when I was a kid....have to try and brush up on it!!West Ham your team yeah?
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
This photo is old, but the pub on the far right corner is The Standard.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2uzfo0y.jpg
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
West Ham are most definitely NOT my team.
I don't like football.
Report crediter • February 6, 2010 12:27 AM GMT
you youngsters ..lol.
Report den perry • February 6, 2010 12:31 AM GMT
oh.....put me foot in that one lol
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
My best mate, Hammer fanatic, so is his son, still lives in Plaistow, on the verge of moving out.

Once he goes, all ties with Newham are finished.

No family or mates left in London at all, both daughters live in Barking, which is getting as bad as Newham.

Sister moved out aobut 2 years ago. She thought multiculturalism was okay, until she got mugged by a black yob.
Report a bitofinterest • February 6, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
in fairness black yob may have had a white girlfriend
Report den perry • February 6, 2010 12:42 AM GMT
I'm actually thinking of moving to London, but will probably stick with Greenwich / Charlton areas.
Report crediter • February 6, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
use to work in mattersons meats ..plaistow....then to walls ...icecream...in edmonton where im from.
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
Mattesons was right outside West Ham station, E15, close to, but not Plaistow, which is E.13
Report crediter • February 6, 2010 4:13 PM GMT
plaistow on there invoices..ch.
Report baracouda30 • February 6, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
She thought multiculturalism was okay, until she got mugged by a black yob

What kind of comment is that? Are some people so dense that they judge an entire race on the actions of one member of it?

What next?

I used to think the Holocaust was bad until a Jewish shopkeeper ripped me off?
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
Go back to the politics forum.
Report flushgordon • February 6, 2010 4:38 PM GMT
although you are being ironic bara ,the anomaly is in someways true you are affected and have your views influenced by your surroundings and what happens to you.
you cannot sweep under the carpet what people feel and use the racsist card at will,
Report flushgordon • February 6, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
or the racist card for that matter
Report baracouda30 • February 6, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
I will go to the Newham forum as soon as you have set one up Big C.

Only a matter of time surely?
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 10:22 PM GMT
There is a Newham forum.

I went on it two years ago.

They're all over 60 years of age and none of them live there any more.

50% of the natives in Newham haven't grasped proper English yet, never mind computers.
Report Big Charlie • February 6, 2010 11:15 PM GMT
Jellied eel shop in the old Rathbone market.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2eulnwx.jpg

This was taken in the 60s I should think, and the business had been established for 40 years already.

Can't stand 'em myself. :(


A homage to Pie and Mash in photos.

http://www.pie-and-mash.com/gall-p.shtml


Shops still going

http://www.pie-and-mash.com/shops.php

Some of these may be owned by forumites.

BC's
Berts
Clarks
Frasiers
Roys
Ucowson

among the names. :)
Report Big Charlie • February 7, 2010 11:41 PM GMT
FIRST WORLD WAR EXPLOSION - MUNITIONS FACTORY IN SILVERTOWN

http://i47.tinypic.com/2055il1.jpg

On 19 January 1917 the biggest explosion ever in the metropolis destroyed a large part of Silvertown in East London.

Silvertown is an industrial area fronting the River Thames directly to the south of the Royal Victoria Dock. It developed in the 1850s and was named after Samuel Winkworth Silver, who established a factory there. Silver's business prospered and became know as the India-Rubber, Gutta-Percha, and Telegraph Works Company Limited. The factory made some of the first Bell's patent telephones in the 1880s.

Silvertown was beyond the part of London governed by the Metropolitan Building Act (1843), which controlled the setting up of noxious industries. As a result, many factories were established in Silvertown.

Dangerous and unpleasant products were handled and made, such as caustic soda, sulphuric acid, manure, creosote and petroleum. Between the docks, railway lines and industrial premises, workers lived in rows of small densely packed terrace houses.

During the First World War in 1915, a Silvertown chemical plant owned by Brunner, Mond & Co was adapted for the production of trinitrotoluene (T.N.T.), a highly explosive substance. This was ordered by government since explosives were in great demand on the Western Front. The company resisted this development as the surrounding area was densely populated. Even handling T.N.T. was hazardous: many munitions workers found that it turned their skin yellow, caused nausea and chest pains.

Just before 7am on 19 January 1917, a fire started at the works resulting in the detonation of 50 tons of high explosives. A large part of the factory was instantly destroyed together with several nearby buildings and streets. The flour mills and silos on the south side of the Royal Victoria Dock were badly damaged. Across the river on the Greenwich Peninsula, now the site of the Millennium Dome, one of the gas holders exploded.

Although there was a strong response from local communities, the geographical isolation of the area hindered rescue work. In Silvertown 73 people died and 300 were injured. Between 60,000 and 70,000 properties were damaged to some degree. The cost of the damage was estimated at a quarter of a million pounds, an enormous sum at that time.

The day after the explosion, the local authorities set up the Explosion Emergency Committee to oversee rescue and rebuilding work. By mid-February 1917, more than 1,700 men were employed in repairing houses. By August most of the work was complete. The government eventually paid about three million pounds in compensation to the people affected by the disaster.

An inquiry into the incident judged that Silvertown was a totally unsuitable place for a T.N.T. plant and castigated Brunner, Mond & Co for negligence in the running of their works. The report remained secret until the 1950s.

The Silvertown explosion was not the only First World War munition disaster. An explosion on 1 July 1918 at the Chilwell ammunition factory in Nottingham killed 134 workers and injured 250.
Report Stevie Strikes • February 8, 2010 12:00 AM GMT
I remember gagging on the smell from the lard factory everytime I went over the flyover.
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
Lard ???

That was probably coming from Pura Foods, which is on the bend of the river but is actually in Poplar E14, part of Tower Hamlets.

Knights were the soap manufacturers in Silvertown, remember knights Castille ? All made from animal fat, but about 600 yards from the flyover.
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 12:08 AM GMT
And as for smart arse LF. there are only 15 threads in total in 'gubbed' on Newham.
Report Stevie Strikes • February 8, 2010 12:08 AM GMT
That was it, Pura. It's on a bend in the river lee. It felt like you were eating mouthfuls of whatever they were making on a bad day.

Now driving past the Mars factory in Slough was something else again...
Report Tommy Toes • February 8, 2010 12:10 AM GMT
Hello Stevie.
Paul TadHunter was about tonight - see Clarky's 'Spring Fair at NEC' thread.
Report Stevie Strikes • February 8, 2010 12:11 AM GMT
A'right TT. Yep I'll take a quick look, but I should be in bed.
Report Tommy Toes • February 8, 2010 12:13 AM GMT
I haven't seen him for over 18 months or more. It would be good if we could get him back - note Clarky's suggestion of you playing a gig in his pub!
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 12:14 AM GMT
I worked at Pura for 2 months 3 weeks and 2 days, when on a 3 month probationary period. Had a disagreement with a mouthy leading hand. Lost my rag and punched him, which was instant dismissal.

I remember it well as I got a tax free months wages in lieu of notice, and the followiing day I had a yankee up (only had two up in my life) in Sadcrooks in Plaistow. And the day after that I had one bet only based on Dick Whitfords ratings in the Sporting Life. It won at 33/1.

Happy days.
Report ManorBlade • February 8, 2010 5:58 AM GMT
newham generals
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 11:25 AM GMT
Facking noise they make - bad enough on their own, but teaming up with Dizzee Rascal was worse.
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 12:53 PM GMT
RONAN POINT COLLAPSE

http://i45.tinypic.com/14wf28p.jpg

Ronan Point was a 23-storey tower block in Newham, East London, which suffered a partial collapse when a gas explosion demolished a load bearing wall, causing the collapse of one entire corner of the building. Four people were killed in the incident, and seventeen were injured.

Ronan Point, named after Harry Louis Ronan (a former Chairman of the Housing Committee of the London Borough of Newham), was part of the wave of tower blocks built in the 1960s as cheap, affordable prefabricated housing for inhabitants of the West Ham region of London. The tower was built by Taylor Woodrow Anglian, using a technique known as Large Panel System building or LPS. This involved casting large concrete prefabricated sections off-site, then bolting them together to construct the building.

Building started in 1966, and construction was completed on 11 March 1968.

At approximately 5:45am on 16 May, 1968, 56-year-old cake decorator Ivy Hodge went into her kitchen in flat 90, a corner flat on the 18th floor of the building, and lit a match to light the stove for her early morning cup of tea. This sparked a gas explosion, which blew out the load bearing flank walls, removing the structural supports to the four flats above. It is believed that the weakness was in the joints connecting the vertical walls to the floor slabs. The flank walls fell away, leaving the floors above unsupported. This caused the progressive collapse of the whole south-east corner of the building.

Because the building had just opened, three of the four flats immediately above Miss Hodge's were unoccupied. Out of the 260 residents of the building, four people were immediately killed in the collapse, and seventeen were injured, including a young mother who was stranded on a narrow ledge when the rest of her living room disappeared. Miss Hodge survived, despite being blown across the room by the explosion - as did her gas stove, which she took to her new address after the explosion.

Although Ronan Point was repaired using strengthened joints, public confidence in the safety of residential tower blocks had been irreparably shaken. Within a couple of decades, this lack of confidence, plus the mounting social problems manifesting themselves within such developments, led to many tower blocks being demolished. Despite the extent of the damage, Ronan Point was partly rebuilt after the explosion but was demolished in 1986 to make way for a new development of low-rise housing.
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
Anybody reading al this pukka stuff ?
Report orioles • February 8, 2010 5:36 PM GMT
Not really, BC.

Perhaps time to light the pyre and push the longboat out onto the Newham fjord?
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
I post hintersting harticles and fotograrfs, and nobody comments :(

If I post my usual stuff the thread will fill up with wishy washy liberals.

I'm sure that some people are only here for the sake of arguments.
Report orioles • February 8, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
No they're not.












I'll get me coat.
Report Veck • February 8, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
I could probably find interesting highlights of Newham too. The bleaknesss of the place is far more interesting!
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
If you all behave I'll post a photo of my grandad in 1915, just before he went off to fight for King and Country.

If he hadn't come back I wouldn't be here typing this. :)
Report orioles • February 8, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
Well, if that doesn't speed up time travel research, then nothing will!
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 5:54 PM GMT
HGWELLSIST
REPORTED
Report orioles • February 8, 2010 6:01 PM GMT
Has someone been reading to you again?
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
I'm not George Bernard
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 9:21 PM GMT
Neither are we.
Report Big Charlie • February 8, 2010 11:14 PM GMT
In view of a certain thread tonight, I would just like to confirm that the damage in the photograph of the 13-53 post was caused by a gas leak, not a plane. :)
Report boxingthefox • February 9, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
Mate of mine says it was an Exocet, but he also thinks he can win on Betfair, what can I say.
Report wit-ham • February 9, 2010 8:14 PM GMT
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23803627-eight-behind-bars-for-tube-and-bus-attacks.do


we get a lot of problems with lads from the stratford area on our line into london
had 3 attacks in the last 2 weeks on trains between stratford and shenfield alone
Report Big Charlie • February 9, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
8 s(umbags, all black.

Who'd have have thought it.

6 from Newham, what a surprise.
Report boxingthefox • February 9, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
BC, I was attacked by 6 brave black bastids years ago, got stabbed but survived, the only people I hate more than these**bags are the bleedin heart Liberals. those f-u-c-k-e-r-s seem to escape the real world.
Report Big Charlie • February 9, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
I've never been picked on since I left school.

I must have a lucky face :)
Report boxingthefox • February 9, 2010 9:14 PM GMT
It was just bad luck on my part, I was leaving a gig, where these c-u-n-t-s had just been thrown out of for dealing, one of me, 6 of them, no contest.
Report boxingthefox • February 9, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
Lol BC, ...one of me, 6 of them, it wasn't even Pimms O clock. ...........Got to laugh.................wasn't funny at the time though.
Report Big Charlie • February 9, 2010 9:28 PM GMT
Yobs prey on the those that they think are weak, or too old to retaliate.

Sometimes, they get it wrong. :)

This is a photo taken of my grandad in 1915, just before he went to war.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2zqwq6f.jpg

He was 19 then.

Around about 1963/4, after my gran died, he left east London and moved to Westham, near Eastbourne, to live with my aunt (his daughter) We had no room at our house in London, so it was either off to aunt Dollys, or live by himself.

He was barged into by two yobs in Woolies in Eastbourne in about 1972. He called after them asking if they were going to apologise. One of them got 'lippy' and shouted what for grandad ?'

Grandad beckoned him closer 'Come 'ere and I'll show ya.'

Underestimating my grandad, he got too close, was grabbed and rendered useless with one punch, then thrown over a counter. His mate ran for it.

The police were called, and by now my aunt was there. Apparently they asked him what he had to say for himseff.

He quietly replied ' The other cowson got lucky.'

He wasn't arrested.
Report boxingthefox • February 9, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
Lol, nice one BC,GN mate.
Report Big Charlie • February 9, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
'night Foxy.
Report orioles • February 9, 2010 9:50 PM GMT
This thread has suddenly become very beautiful :)
Report Big Charlie • February 9, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
What have I done wrong that pleases you ?
Report Vamos-mi-Sevilla • February 9, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
Do you know danny dyers family or him, sure he was from custom house too.

I know the greengate pub quite well, nice scouse behind the ramp there, Asian free you mentioned once, I was thinking what a great name for a unmoderated forum should one ever be created
Report Big Charlie • February 9, 2010 10:36 PM GMT
Dannys from Canning Town.

I'm from Custom House.

I was Captain of the Greengate darts team for one season only, either1988 or 1989.

She held the licence (can't remember her name) and her boyfriend, Kevin Flynn, was away for a footie match. We were still playing team 4s when she turned the facking lights out at 11-20 p.m.

And I quote, 'I'm not losing my licence for a poxy darts team'

We moved to the Cumberland.
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 1:25 PM BST
Can't wait for the Olympics Silly
Report Munchen_fadge_back • August 14, 2011 2:03 PM BST
Baaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaa
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 5:58 PM BST
Somebody should tell silly bollocks ^^^^ that I blocked him over a week ago.
Report Munchen_fadge_back • August 14, 2011 6:00 PM BST
Somebody should tell SLACKHOLE, that he needs to charge his electric scooter.
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 6:04 PM BST
Somebody should tell silly bollocks ^^^^ that I blocked him over a week ago.
Report Munchen_fadge_back • August 14, 2011 6:05 PM BST
Somebody should tell SLACKHOLE, that he needs to charge his electric scooter.
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 6:14 PM BST
Somebody should tell silly bollocks ^^^^ that I blocked him over a week ago.
Report Sunset Cristo • August 14, 2011 6:15 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report Munchen_fadge_back • August 14, 2011 6:16 PM BST
Somebody should tell SLACKHOLE, that he needs to charge his electric scooter.
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 6:17 PM BST
Somebody should tell silly bollocks ^^^^ that I blocked him over a week ago.

And tell him that it means I can't see his posts.
Report Munchen_fadge_back • August 14, 2011 6:18 PM BST
Somebody should tell SLACKHOLE, that he needs to charge his electric scooter.
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 6:19 PM BST
Somebody should tell silly bollocks ^^^^ that I blocked him over a week ago.

And tell him that it means I can't see his posts.
Report Munchen_fadge_back • August 14, 2011 6:19 PM BST
Somebody should tell SLACKHOLE, that he needs to charge his electric scooter.
Report dr . atkins • August 14, 2011 6:20 PM BST
MOVE ALONG PLEASE NOTHING TO SEE HERE
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 7:24 PM BST
Happy
Report rickie • August 14, 2011 7:31 PM BST
Winkle has an opinion

Horsforth is full of bland neverwozzer waffle
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 7:35 PM BST
shut up theresa, you tart.
Report rickie • August 14, 2011 7:38 PM BST
ok

horsforth is a floppy penis anyway

netto baked bean merchant
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 7:43 PM BST
And for those of us who were educated in English ?
Report rickie • August 14, 2011 7:47 PM BST
munchen d1ck muncher lives in horsforth and posts endless bland wum nonsence and offers zero debate or humour



Billy Bremner statue anytime
Report JackCole • August 14, 2011 7:49 PM BST
munchen d1ck muncher

I blocked him over a week ago.
Report rickie • August 14, 2011 7:53 PM BST
People with an opinion make me feel alive

Sometimes shake my blood

But alive nonetheless

Wummin trolls even work if they have some style

Id never heard of Newham pre BFF

sounds like south west beeston where the time is always 7 past 7 home sweet home
Report tobermory • August 14, 2011 8:07 PM BST
Isn't there a 'Friends of Newham' forum that people could drone on about it on?

lol turns out there are loads of them ffs Blush

http://www.newhamstory.com/

The Newham Story website tells the story of Newham and its people.

You can share your memories, family stories, photos, videos, and knowledge of Newham - as it is today and as it was in the past.


http://newhamstory.com/forums/


Newham memories and nostalgia
Let's have your memories and nostalgia here. What was it like growing up, your school days or your first job and what experiences you had in the Newham, happy or sad.     3594 Posts
583 Topics    

Sporting Newham
Boxing, speedway, football and greyhound racing or whatever sport you want to talk about, talk about it here     386 Posts
62 Topics
   
Famous Faces and Local Characters
Newham has turned out many well known characters over the years including some local eccentrics 231 Posts
68 Topics

http://apps.newham.gov.uk/democracy/howdecisions/cforums2.htm


plenty of others too
Report dr . atkins • August 14, 2011 9:13 PM BST
newham is very friendly place with nice people, like other inner city has got its share of scum bags god save our queen
Report Mc Moonbeam • August 14, 2011 11:44 PM BST
Never heard of the sh1thole & sick of you Cockneys tellin me it's some kind of living Ghetto

Try spending a week in Small Heath or Handsworth you won't even understand a word that is spoken .
Report Almagro is a no no • August 15, 2011 12:54 AM BST
I'm sick to the back fúcking teeth of hearing about this fúcking shithole
Report scissors • August 15, 2011 9:55 AM BST
As you can see, 25% of gun crimes are not committed by blacks, so the asians and whites have their gun crime as well.

------------------------------
CHINESEIST !!

reported
Report JackCole • August 15, 2011 2:06 PM BST
Almagro is a no no 15 Aug 11 00:54 
I'm sick to the back fúcking teeth of hearing about this fúcking shithole


At least you know it's a sh1thole.

Wait until the Olympics are over, then it will move from being the 3rd poorest borough in the UK to one of thE best. Laugh
Report pumphol. • May 14, 2014 12:54 PM BST
I bet it didn't
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