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2smiggy
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been watching far too much tele the last few years and was wondering if there any ideas on any good books to read. true crime / crime novels, i heard the new stephan king book is good, but is it heavy going ?
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Report blackbarn • January 13, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
Best Seller and 12 million copies sold worldwide but... The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo BY Stieg Larsson is a pretty rivetting thriller.
Report rustyboy • January 13, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
It's a big heavy.

The Stieg Larsson novels have been amazing sellers - everyone i've spoken to who's read them said they couldn't put them down.

Also the Harlen Coban novels are supposed to be ok.

If you like True Crime the book "Columbine" is extremely well written.

In more general Fiction - "The Road" is one of the best novels i've read in a very long time.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray.

Thank me later.

Not much crime but a tincy wincy bit better than Stephen King.
Report rustyboy • January 13, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
vanity fair is very good. The film was a nice adaptation too.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 7:26 PM GMT
Anything by Cormac McCarthy :-)

Just bought to Larsson ones - 550 pages each. Better be good.
Report rustyboy • January 13, 2010 7:28 PM GMT
Cormac McCarthy :x
Report Reyes • January 13, 2010 7:29 PM GMT
the daddy of them all.

In Cold Blood - Truman Capote
Report Pokermonster • January 13, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
I tend not to rate women crime writers too highly, but I always enjoy the Barbara Nadal books featuring Inspector Cetin Ikmen.

They're based in Istanbul, where I used to live.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 7:35 PM GMT
the daddy of them all.
In Cold Blood - Truman Capote
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If you liked that you'll love this etc

Executioners Song and or Oswald's Tale by Norman Mailer.

Gary Gilmore and Lee Harvey respectively.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 7:36 PM GMT
Kinky Friedman - anything - easy reads and quite fun.
Report garlicbread • January 13, 2010 7:37 PM GMT
I'm reading 'Seeing Red' at the moment, the book by referee Graham Poll.

It's 400 pages of him saying that he's not the tw@t everyone thinks, but the message I'm getting very strongly is that he's a tw@t.
Report garlicbread • January 13, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
Just bought Reyes' selection from Amazon.

Holiday reading for my snowboarding trip.
Report Reyes • January 13, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
send it over when you've finished mate. lost mine !
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 7:44 PM GMT
garlicbread 13 Jan 20:37
I'm reading 'Seeing Red' at the moment, the book by referee Graham Poll.
It's 400 pages of him saying that he's not the tw@t everyone thinks, but the message I'm getting very strongly is that he's a tw@t.
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Not half as much a tw@t as you are for buying it.

;-)
Report rustyboy • January 13, 2010 7:44 PM GMT
i;d like to read that too. Bit grim though isn't it?

I never quite got why people like True crime. My sister is reading a book about Shannon Matthew's family and all that business. Bit Grim.
Report Pokermonster • January 13, 2010 7:47 PM GMT
I guess it's because truth is often stranger than fiction, Rusty.

Have you ever read about Sawney Bean? There's a grim tale if ever there was one.
Report bigH • January 13, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
LA Confidential by James Ellroy is a great read, as is American Tabloid by the same writer
Report garlicbread • January 13, 2010 7:49 PM GMT
Good point Carlo, though in my defense, I had a £25 WH Smiths voucher and no need for further porn.
Report Pokermonster • January 13, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
I've recommended this book several times, but just in case anyone missed it:

Fast Company by Jon Bradshaw.

I rate it as a must for the gambling minded. Bradshaw spent a year on the road with six legendary hustlers: Titanic Thompson; Minnesota Fats; Bobby Riggs; Tim Holland; Puggy Pearson; and Johnny Moss. Fascinating and wonderfully written.
Report Pokermonster • January 13, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
It's a slim volume and available on Ebay for 99p.
Report 2smiggy • January 13, 2010 8:17 PM GMT
cheers all

i will try The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo , and also fast company. i will also get murder machine, about the gambino mob family. any other suggestions welcome. any on interested in true crime, the westies is another good book on dis-organised crime in new york.
Report Clockwork • January 13, 2010 8:25 PM GMT
I can recommend 9/11 Commission by Thomas Kean. Hilarious.
Report the butterfly collector • January 13, 2010 8:28 PM GMT
relentless is a great thriller with a great storyline that draws you in immediatly
Report onewheel • January 13, 2010 8:32 PM GMT
Just about to start 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' and have ordered 'The Road, nice to see both on this list.

Finished Faceless Killers, a Wallander book, it was ok.
Report orioles • January 13, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
Clockwork 13 Jan 21:25
I can recommend 9/11 Commission by Thomas Kean. Hilarious


Praise the Lord and pass the probe, Clocky's back!

I hope you're well :)
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:37 PM GMT
I went through a period about 8 years ago of reading the 'classics' to make up for the fact I was wasting my life in a well-paid but essentially pointless job. Vanity Fair broke me. I'm not saying it's not a great book, but my GOD what a start. The first paragraph goes on for about three chapters. Some of the sentences are longer than entire children's books. I tried and tried and tried again, but couldn't get past the second page without my mind wandering to football.
Report garlicbread • January 13, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
^ Sounds like every one of the Harry Potter books. Utter tripe.
Report Kevbetting superstar • January 13, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
Conn Iggulden has written 3 superb books about Genghis Khan. I'm not a historical fiction book reader but had these recommended - they are fantastic and a must read.

2 books into the Harry Bosch thrillers by Michael Connelly - v good also.
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
lol, there's been a few threads about Michael Connelly, bit of a naughty pleasure IMO.
Report orioles • January 13, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
Try Proust, Sparky, particularly A la recherche du temps perdu . It makes Thackeray seem like a snappy wee piece.
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
garlicbread...as I shall call you...I read the first and stopped there...but there's no denying a HUGE number of people have enjoyed them, so perhaps it's us who've lost the magic.
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
Obviously I started watching the films once Hermione was legal, mind.
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:45 PM GMT
Orioles? War and Peace? I was led to believe that was the biggest effort? Maybe it's just the longest.
Report rustyboy • January 13, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
no Vikrham Seth's A Suitable Boy is the longest novel in general release i think. 600,000+ words

L Ron Hubbard wrote some tripe that rambled on for 10m words or somthing but Seth's novel is considered the longest proper novel i think.
Report rustyboy • January 13, 2010 8:48 PM GMT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_novels
Report orioles • January 13, 2010 8:50 PM GMT
It's not the length, it's the construction, Spark.

Oddly enough, that's what my tattoo says.
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:52 PM GMT
Well yeah I wasn't claiming it was THAT long (I've said that before) but I saw a list of the family members mentioned and that went on for several pages alone!

Moby Dick is a decent read, but I love the bit about a quarter the way in where it just turns into a whaling manual! Inspiring stuff...which i didn't read!
Report Fenway • January 13, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
I enjoyed reading Harry Potter.
Report orioles • January 13, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
Moby Dick is superb. One of the greatest books I've ever read.

Next to Asterix and the Secret Agent.
Report sparkmaster. • January 13, 2010 8:59 PM GMT
The Secret Agent was WEIRD. That bit at the end when he's being chased by the relentless old man...I think I should have taken more from that than I did.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
2smiggy 13 Jan 21:17
i will try The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo , and also fast company. i will also get murder machine, about the gambino mob family

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fella's got taste ;-)
Report trader pj • January 13, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
Everybody mentions Moby Dick it has to be said.

I like Wind, Sand and Stars by Exupery
and The Alchemist by Paulo C
Report Carlo Gambino • January 13, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
garlicbread 13 Jan 21:38
^ Sounds like every one of the Harry Potter books. Utter tripe.
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I'd have stopped reading after the first one.
Report Big Charlie • January 13, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
I read a book once. Blue, it was.
Report JOCI Club • January 13, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
Another vote for Mailer's Executioner's Song here...the story of murderer Gary Gilmore.
Report JOCI Club • January 13, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
Big Charlie 13 Jan 22:48
I read a book once. Blue, it was.


The script of the Derek Jarman film perhaps...........
Report leefee • January 13, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night Time by Mark Haddon
Report JOCI Club • January 13, 2010 10:50 PM GMT
Some authors of crime related thrilers you may want to look at (from a quick scan of my bookshelves):

Jake Arnott
Barry Eisler
Simon Kernick
Christopher Brookmyre
Stephen Booth
James Ellroy
Edward Bunker
Anthony Frewin
Karin Fossum
John Harvey
Jeff Abbott
Richard Montanari
Cody McFadyen
George Pelecanos
Karin Slaughter
Nick Stone
Chris Mooney
PJ Tracy
Simon Beckett
Mo Hayder
Stuart MacBride
Report ELA MANA MOU • January 13, 2010 11:32 PM GMT
the top 2 at the moment are

jack reacher/childs

harry bosch/connelly
about 15 books from each

the top before was ohn grisham, although he was more court orientated
Report Des Pond • January 13, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
orioles 13 Jan 21:43
Try Proust, Sparky, particularly A la recherche du temps perdu . It makes Thackeray seem like a snappy wee piece.

It is great literature. But if you can get through all 7 volumes, you're a better man than me. Moby Dick a bit turgid & repetitive , imo. Ditto -Don Quxiote. For someone who has gotten out of the habit of reading - as I have, myself. Perhaps something by Graham Greene or George Orwell would be a better bet to start off. If ,like me, you've become lazy and too used to the internet. The heavyweight classics will only put you off, imo.
Report the finster • January 13, 2010 11:56 PM GMT
executioners song - norman mailer awesome work
anything by james lee burke
most of michael connolly
dennis lehane well worth checking out, especially mystic river and the given day
george pelecanos series of novels set in washington dc, brilliant
walter mosley seldom fails , his easy rawlins books in particular
elmore leonard has a huge body of work mostly very enjoyable and lots have been made into films ie get shorty , rum punch (jackie brown) etc
charles willeford another hard boiled crime weriter i like
lawrence block another top writer with many good (tongue in cheek) crime books
daniel woodrell another fabulous writer , woe to live on , tomato red , winters bone all great reads
donald e westlake/ richard stark (same guy) has lots of good books again loads made into film
james sallis another well worth reading
i could go on and on but ill finish with my favourite - james ellroy
what a writer , start with his early works and read them all . see how his style evolves as he matures as a writer . i cant wait to get my hands on his latest work which is just ou - bloods a river. read them all - the black dahlia , l.a confidential , suicide hill , the cold six thousand everyone a classic !
hope you read some from this list. enjoy
Report mitchell downie • January 14, 2010 12:13 AM GMT
John Grisham, start with The Firm.
Report viva el presidente! • January 14, 2010 12:47 AM GMT
Homicide - A Year On the Killing Streets by David Simon. the book The Wire came out of.

btw, those Stieg Larsson books are utter sh!t.
Report Usaidit • January 14, 2010 1:16 AM GMT
rebecca is a classic or jamaica inn
Report takethestand • January 14, 2010 6:16 AM GMT
reading 'Under the dome' by stephen king

basically a dome covers a town like in simpson's movie

I reckon i'll be finished by March. Its long
Report shergarburger • January 14, 2010 6:39 AM GMT
An unusual crime thriller which I loved but which no-one else I come across seems to have read is Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem.It features a 'detective' who has Tourettes Syndrome and is orignal, moving and extremely funny.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 14, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
viva el presidente! 14 Jan 01:47
btw, those Stieg Larsson books are utter sh!t.
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Might of told me that before I bought them :-(

Mind you - wadda you know.
Report Carlo Gambino • January 14, 2010 7:33 PM GMT
the finster 14 Jan 00:56
elmore leonard has a huge body of work

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Is that a posh way of saying he's written a lot of books?
Report Lee Ho Fooks • January 14, 2010 7:34 PM GMT
out of print (I think) Tressell - "Ragged trousered philanthropists" is a great read
Report thelawman • January 14, 2010 7:45 PM GMT
i go by author rather than book.

in order of preference
1. Ken Follet
2. Harlan Coben
3. Lee Childs
4. Michael Connelly
5. Stephen Leather
Report Carlo Gambino • January 14, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
thelawman 14 Jan 20:45
i go by author rather than book.

in order of preference
1. Ken Follet
2. Harlan Coben
3. Lee Childs
4. Michael Connelly
5. Stephen Leather

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Sheesh, mate, if I were you I would start going by book instead.
Report thelawman • January 14, 2010 7:52 PM GMT
why whats wrong with them
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