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had to be pulled from a ditch today after losing control as when i braked going down a particularly steep slope back road.
put foot on breaks and ABS just started going mad. must have slid about 100ms before hitting a dicth and putting my audi at a 45 degree angle.
by some miracle the RAC were there and pulled me out there and then. could have been a lot worse though.
car is fine. :-)
put foot on breaks and ABS just started going mad. must have slid about 100ms before hitting a dicth and putting my audi at a 45 degree angle.
by some miracle the RAC were there and pulled me out there and then. could have been a lot worse though.
car is fine. :-)
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Yes....need a switch to be able to turn it off...
glad your ok, must have been scarey, everyone go steady in morning
just reading a lot of forums about ABS being terrible ion icy conditions. ffs.
The results were favorable on ABS for stopping only on dry pavement, where it did enjoy a marginally better performance. On any weather condition other than dry pavement, the ABS was significantly to massively worse. Snow and ice being the worst case scenerio. 60% longer stops with the ABS system. They also said ABS was superior because it allowed them to turn to miss objects while the brakes are being applied. My question is, would they have even had to turn at all if they would have had conventional brakes?
The article was shocking, as all the articles I had ever seen said ABS would be so superior to conventional brakes on snow/ice because it would be able to modulate the pressure, and pulse the brakes way faster than any human. My experience before I read the article said the complete opposite. ABS cars were just plain dangerous as the computer would get too confused on slick surfaces, and attempt to avoid lockup by applying almost no braking pressure. The article mearly backed that feeling up with numbers.
this is exactly what happened today. very scary.
The results were favorable on ABS for stopping only on dry pavement, where it did enjoy a marginally better performance. On any weather condition other than dry pavement, the ABS was significantly to massively worse. Snow and ice being the worst case scenerio. 60% longer stops with the ABS system. They also said ABS was superior because it allowed them to turn to miss objects while the brakes are being applied. My question is, would they have even had to turn at all if they would have had conventional brakes?
The article was shocking, as all the articles I had ever seen said ABS would be so superior to conventional brakes on snow/ice because it would be able to modulate the pressure, and pulse the brakes way faster than any human. My experience before I read the article said the complete opposite. ABS cars were just plain dangerous as the computer would get too confused on slick surfaces, and attempt to avoid lockup by applying almost no braking pressure. The article mearly backed that feeling up with numbers.
this is exactly what happened today. very scary.
ABS activating is a subtle hint for you to take the foot of the pedal, not ram it to the floor HTH.
I have an Audi and I turn the EPS off in the snow. Vast improvement.
Gashwan - I assume you were in lowest gear and already had foot on brake, when starting down the hill ?
ABS is pain in the snow. and when it goes wrong very expensive to put wright.
Crisp77 14 Jan 10:32
I have an Audi and I turn the EPS off in the snow. Vast improvement.
not sure you can turn mine off.
I have an Audi and I turn the EPS off in the snow. Vast improvement.
not sure you can turn mine off.
Facts 14 Jan 10:36
Gashwan - I assume you were in lowest gear and already had foot on brake, when starting down the hill ?
that's exactly what the bloke from the RAC said to me. can't rememeber if i did or not. ive been driving for 8 years wasn't doing anything ive ever done before.
Gashwan - I assume you were in lowest gear and already had foot on brake, when starting down the hill ?
that's exactly what the bloke from the RAC said to me. can't rememeber if i did or not. ive been driving for 8 years wasn't doing anything ive ever done before.
Re: ESP in the snow - yes or no?
Postby mighTy Tee on 07 Jan 2010, 11:49
Driving in snow is one of the few occasions to turn it off. It will help with the traction when pulling away etc and in these conditions you shouldnt be cornering hard. ABS is a pain in the arse in soft snow, if you lock up you build up a blocking snow in front of the tyres which can substantially decrease your stopping distance, where as ABS lets you continue rolling over the snow and can increase the stopping distance.
At the end of the day though it is a matter of driving sensibly, low revs in a high gear.
I have 2 neighbours who think they can pull away in first at high revs and wonder why they are stationary. These are the dangerous ones on the road.
GASHWAN 14 Jan 13:32
At the end of the day though it is a matter of driving sensibly, low revs in a high gear.
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Or even, you know, staying at home.
At the end of the day though it is a matter of driving sensibly, low revs in a high gear.
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Or even, you know, staying at home.
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