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The Magic Flea
12 Jan 10 13:41
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what is wrong with people?

The number of incidents of people shining lasers at planes has increased more than twenty-five fold over the last two years.

The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said that there were 29 incidents in 2007, which had increased to 737 by 2009.

Dazzling a pilot could be a safety risk, the CAA said, particularly during take-off and landing.

A new law was brought in on 1 January, which together with new detection equipment, could increase convictions.

Laser pens are normally used as pointers in presentations.

But a quick look on the internet shows how easy it is to purchase one much more powerful than needed for that purpose. About £20 to £30 will buy a pen capable of shining a light 6000ft.

New offence

Previously anyone caught shining a laser at an aircraft could have been charged with recklessly endangering an aircraft.

The new offence allows offenders to be charged with shining a light at an aircraft so as to dazzle the pilot. The CAA expects this to increase the conviction rate as it is easier to prove.

And incidents of this type are rising rapidly. At London Heathrow airport there were just two incidents in 2007, but two years later that had risen to 29.

In Manchester, incidents over that time rose from three to 51, whilst in Glasgow they went from zero to 42.

As well as the new law, police are also trialling equipment which allows them to record details of the laser beam.

The CAA said that this is unique to each device, similar to a fingerprint, so will make it easier to prove who was responsible for the attack.

"I advise individuals who may think shining a laser at an aircraft is a bit of fun, to think again," said Bob Jones, the CAA's head of flight operations. "The chances of getting caught are increasing rapidly and, once caught, criminal charges are now inevitable."

So far, it is not thought that any serious incidents have been caused by laser attacks.

But just over a year ago a pilot coming in to land at Plymouth was dazzled by a laser and forced to abort his landing to fly around for another attempt.

The worry is if an attack comes when the pilot is dealing with other difficult circumstances - a strong wind, for example - it could lead to a potential disaster.
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Report a bitofinterest • January 12, 2010 1:43 PM GMT
just did one myself.marvellous stuff!
Report The Leopard • January 12, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
Not read it.....is this the mobile laser-eye treatment...?
Report MRGRUMPY1 • January 12, 2010 1:48 PM GMT
The Magic Flea 12 Jan 14:41
what is wrong with people?
The number of incidents of people shining lasers at planes has increased more than twenty-five fold over the last two years.


Unfortunately the more publicity it receives the worse it becomes. So by that reckoning you are partly to blame.
Report Cahoochie • January 12, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
Its the publicity

"Monkey see.. Monkey do"
Report Cahoochie • January 12, 2010 2:14 PM GMT
Probably more chance of distracting a pilot by throwing knickers at the windscreen while the planes on the fkg ground !!!
Report SHAPESHIFTER • January 12, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
The other night in vancouver, someone kept firing one at the Calgary goalie
Report SHAPESHIFTER • January 12, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
Wait till drogba gets hit. He'll crumble like a gunshot victim covering his eyes ;)
Report good value losers • January 12, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
was just thinking it's surprising it doesn't happen at sports events moreoften.
Report The Magic Flea • January 12, 2010 2:22 PM GMT
a beach ball suffices
Report MRGRUMPY1 • January 12, 2010 2:25 PM GMT
ffs. Can just imagine next man utd v liverpool match. It will be like star wars all over again now.
Report good value losers • January 12, 2010 2:26 PM GMT
wonder if a horse could be nobbled in running?
Report Cahoochie • January 12, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
Cover me forkins !!!!
Report Roquebrune • January 12, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
Storm in a tea cup,imo.When planes are that low,they're landing by computer.
Report good value losers • January 12, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
mind you the jocks are good enough at that not to have to bother with the extra risk
Report naydam • January 12, 2010 2:31 PM GMT
Roquebrune. Are you sure?
Report Roquebrune • January 12, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
naydam,yes,they all fly-by-wire now.Pilots probably stuffing a stewardess while it lands.
Report naydam • January 12, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
I didn'ty realise that all aircraft have the ability to land/take off by computer control. Makes you wonder how they manage to crash at all. Especially when computers are infallible. I didn'teven know that all aircraft have stewardesses (or should that be hostesses), I thought they only inhabited airliners and private hire Lear jets.
Report Prickard • January 12, 2010 3:01 PM GMT
Fly-by-wire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCwYAzqvcrQ
Report treble • January 12, 2010 3:25 PM GMT
What happens is the autopilot flies the plane at the correct headings until it intercepts the glidescope (which is the correct approach pattern as set by the on ground instrument landing system). When the glidescope is intercepted, the pilot switches on the APPR switch to initiate the approach. The plane then follows the glidescope down while the pilot sets the correct throttle and flap settings.

Once the plane reaches 300ft, the autopilot is disengaged and the pilot flares the nose up slightly manually to ensure a smooth landing. The plane lands, reverse thrust and brakes are applied and the plane is brought to a halt.

There you go!
Report naydam • January 12, 2010 3:52 PM GMT
What if you have a blocked pitot tube?
Report treble • January 12, 2010 4:23 PM GMT
You can still land safely with a blocked pitot tube. It only registers airspeed, it does'nt control it. I am sure that nowadays planes dont just rely on pitot tubes for airspeed indication.
Report naydam • January 12, 2010 4:33 PM GMT
It also registers altitude. The computer doesn't have the abilty to ignre conflicting signals. Sometimes it requires the pilot to ignore the computer and just fly the aircraft. The computer can't ignore itsself.
Report treble • January 12, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
So how does the pilot know the correct speed and altitude if the readings are incorrect?
Report The Magic Flea • January 12, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
by sticking his head out of the window
Report REPORTED^ • January 13, 2010 1:33 AM GMT
In all seriousness we used to play with them things when we were about ten, at that distance are they harmfull?? please dont try it out just asking it seems hard to elaeive
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