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I know the smoke like most cities has it's ghettoes and the like but i was wondering if any londoners actually concur to any particular area as the "ultimate sh1tehole"?
I work there a couple of days a month and most i meet are **sexual liberals(the book trade)so i usually only ply around the more pleasant areas like Islington and Kensington.
Personally the likes of Wembley seem utter filth tips and peckham (is that a town? is unpleasant.I also had a incdient with a dead dog in streatham high st a while ago so those 3 are worthy of a mention.
I work there a couple of days a month and most i meet are **sexual liberals(the book trade)so i usually only ply around the more pleasant areas like Islington and Kensington.
Personally the likes of Wembley seem utter filth tips and peckham (is that a town? is unpleasant.I also had a incdient with a dead dog in streatham high st a while ago so those 3 are worthy of a mention.
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happily meet you there anytime anyplace on any terms you like Tevez??
grow up you clown
grow up you clown
i'll fight the winner
and the loser
weekdays only tho
and the loser
weekdays only tho
Look mate your a personally abusive little turd,and if you choose to act like that,just as you would face to face with someone.I dont come here to row but the offers there?
Anybody who remembers the ex-Newham resident Cupid Stunt aka Oedipus Rex aka Nobby Cheese, who was another one not too fond of the grevilles, and he's a year older than me.
On anither forum somebody (may have been Fresh, can't remember) argued with him that anybody could walk about at any time in London as it was safe.
Cupid said to him 'I'll drop you off at Brixton Station at midnight. You'll be carrying a briefcase, a mobile phone and wearing a bit of visible jewellery. All you have to do is walk to Stockwell Station. If you get there without being mugged, I'll give you a monkey ' (£500)
The bloke asked Cupid 'What if I get mugged ?'
Cupid said ' Hard luck, but you'll owe me nothing.'
Unsurprisingly, mister 'Know it all about London but never been there' never took up the challenge.
I don't mind a ruck, but I wouldn't try that, not even for a monkey
On anither forum somebody (may have been Fresh, can't remember) argued with him that anybody could walk about at any time in London as it was safe.
Cupid said to him 'I'll drop you off at Brixton Station at midnight. You'll be carrying a briefcase, a mobile phone and wearing a bit of visible jewellery. All you have to do is walk to Stockwell Station. If you get there without being mugged, I'll give you a monkey ' (£500)
The bloke asked Cupid 'What if I get mugged ?'
Cupid said ' Hard luck, but you'll owe me nothing.'
Unsurprisingly, mister 'Know it all about London but never been there' never took up the challenge.
I don't mind a ruck, but I wouldn't try that, not even for a monkey
I once walked all the way from Bow to Dagenham (to watch D&R play footy vs Boston i think) was a long walk and defo wouldn't consider dagenham or barking or romford part of east london or even london.
I wanna know what Claphams got against Welling?
I live there. Not a $hithole at all. Quite a decent place.
I live there. Not a $hithole at all. Quite a decent place.
A kitchen appliance that makes toasted sandwiches. Must be some sort of rhyming slang.
I was on the last tube of the night from Morden to Stockwell, had to get off at Stockwell because of engineering and took the bus from Stockwell to Victoria
There was just me and this other guy in this carriage, we were on either sides, and a black guy came on at a stop, he sat down in the middle and he looked so high as kite, the black man kept making threatening advances just through his body language
you could see the other guy was sh!tting himself, mind you, the black guy didn't glance at me at all, I wonder why?
but nothing happened anyway, but this happened on the only late night tube journey I have made in London in my adult life....I wonder if that's a normal occurrence?
There was just me and this other guy in this carriage, we were on either sides, and a black guy came on at a stop, he sat down in the middle and he looked so high as kite, the black man kept making threatening advances just through his body language
you could see the other guy was sh!tting himself, mind you, the black guy didn't glance at me at all, I wonder why?
but nothing happened anyway, but this happened on the only late night tube journey I have made in London in my adult life....I wonder if that's a normal occurrence?
And Welling has got a new Morrisons opened up, they do a lovely steak pie, my daughter lives there, its ok
Bangers knows.
New Morrisons and a soon to be opened mega tesco's has perked the area up nicely.
And we have one of the nicest parks in London. danson park.
New Morrisons and a soon to be opened mega tesco's has perked the area up nicely.
And we have one of the nicest parks in London. danson park.
Oh dear Bon Viv,someone else has the same opinion of you as I have,you sound a really nice person,full of kindness to others!I know your type,Top Man suit with a BMW 3 series,and no real class.
Gangsta fight
very funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXy2SceUgb0&feature=related
very funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXy2SceUgb0&feature=related
Offers open to you to Prima or are you one and the same? 2 cowards i'll even suggest we throw a grand a piece in Prima an let some others put some money in and fight for charity i can arrange a ring hire? perhaps we could get this rolling?I've never so much as said one word about you Prima so quite whre you gte your aspertions from is anyones business.
Put a thread up prima and we'll see wat we can get sorted.i do occasional work for a v famous childrens charity and i can sort that end out.The balls in your court mate.
Put a thread up prima and we'll see wat we can get sorted.i do occasional work for a v famous childrens charity and i can sort that end out.The balls in your court mate.
Ghostdog 10 Jan 15:33
Once walked all the way through Deptford. I would not do it again.
Why's that then ?
Afraid you'd get attacked by a gang of whites ?
Charlie, are you stalking me?
Here is the truth, but you won't like it. That is exactly what I was afraid of. The local scrotes were impressively multi-racial, but were predominantly white.
See my earlier post re Millwall, for the first time came close to real panic there one night, didn't see a black face.
Hackney is crime-ridden, so what? Comparing it to Norwich by highlighting every crime with cnp not the brightest, for whatever reason. Do something more productive with your time. Start a vigilante squad or something.
Once walked all the way through Deptford. I would not do it again.
Why's that then ?
Afraid you'd get attacked by a gang of whites ?
Charlie, are you stalking me?
Here is the truth, but you won't like it. That is exactly what I was afraid of. The local scrotes were impressively multi-racial, but were predominantly white.
See my earlier post re Millwall, for the first time came close to real panic there one night, didn't see a black face.
Hackney is crime-ridden, so what? Comparing it to Norwich by highlighting every crime with cnp not the brightest, for whatever reason. Do something more productive with your time. Start a vigilante squad or something.
does one smell some ruckage here!dunno who prima is though his sexual tastes seem ok but that tevez bloke has spouted off to me before so i say you 2 get to blackfrairs pdq!
oh can i also vote for tooting
oh can i also vote for tooting
i do occasional work for a v famous childrens charity and i can sort that end out.
what do you mean by that exactly bob viveur?
what do you mean by that exactly bob viveur?
whats with the arguing here
london has it's rough areas whether you like it or not, who cares what others say?
london has it's rough areas whether you like it or not, who cares what others say?
Bon Viv, whilst your offer is commendable in so much as you are wanting to raise money for your charity, I would have to say that your methods of doing so leave a little to be desired. Do you really think that after two or three commetns on here you are going to get people to travel to London to have a fight with you?? I draw my conclusions as to your personality from your postings where you offer your views on other people. When I read some of your points about lower class chavs and work shy benefit claimaints and then you start asking where the rough parts of London are, I do not feel that I am hearing from a gentleman of equal standing to myself.
As I said the other day, some of us are more equal than others, and Bon viv, where I go in London there would be no entry for someone like you, and your conduct only underlines this. I am sure your charity would be proud that you are trying to start fights with unknown people on an Internet gambling forum.
As I said the other day, some of us are more equal than others, and Bon viv, where I go in London there would be no entry for someone like you, and your conduct only underlines this. I am sure your charity would be proud that you are trying to start fights with unknown people on an Internet gambling forum.
I am not stirring the **1 (much), but how can anybody start offering out over the internet? Have never understood it. Nobody can be that confident of their own ability.
I have seen some total gorillas get the shock of their life to lightweights, internet is that x1000. You just don't know who you are dealing with.
I have seen some total gorillas get the shock of their life to lightweights, internet is that x1000. You just don't know who you are dealing with.
unfortunately ghostdog that is the mentality of bon viveur
Stockwell and Peckham used to be the places to avoid growing up in South London, Peckham has improved with it more or less been renamed East Dulwich in parts but I would not venture out alone at night in Stockwell even now. Redbag, you can´t have been to Brixton recently I take it, the place has changed dramatically for the better.
worked for korals in cold harbour lane and the oval and pete was down the rd at brixton
No starting fights Prima Donna,you've abused me and cast personal aspersions which is both rude and uncalled for.I had no beef with you whatsoever but you seemed to have taken umbridge.
I stand by my views on the workshy and chavs (albeit tongue in cheek to a point as you well know)
Your constant baiting the action of a "spoiler" and in real life you wouldn't use that language or actions unless you were looking for trouble.If that was the case i'm merely offering a legal fair way of sorting out your frustrations,and any money sent to a good cause.
If i'd followed you around using the language you'd used to me i think you'd be rather put out.
As for rough areas of London,the city and it's history has fascinated me for a long time and all i ever see and hear is "shudders" when locales are discussed,so just wondered what the viewpoint was in fairness.
As to "the areas you go in London" it's quite possible i wouldn't get further than the door but i bet i've had at least 15% of every private club memeber in London at my adult parties we ran for years (also ran "rougher" bukkakes/Gb's swing nights etc in the north)
I'm givng you the benefit of the doubt that you've taken a random post in slightly the wrong way (easily done)and formed your views from that (BMW 3 SERIES-!! i'm 40! for god sake ,2 yr old subaru 4x4 estate if it really matters?
If you have class as you say you'll accept a minor error of judgement and offer an apology.
I stand by my views on the workshy and chavs (albeit tongue in cheek to a point as you well know)
Your constant baiting the action of a "spoiler" and in real life you wouldn't use that language or actions unless you were looking for trouble.If that was the case i'm merely offering a legal fair way of sorting out your frustrations,and any money sent to a good cause.
If i'd followed you around using the language you'd used to me i think you'd be rather put out.
As for rough areas of London,the city and it's history has fascinated me for a long time and all i ever see and hear is "shudders" when locales are discussed,so just wondered what the viewpoint was in fairness.
As to "the areas you go in London" it's quite possible i wouldn't get further than the door but i bet i've had at least 15% of every private club memeber in London at my adult parties we ran for years (also ran "rougher" bukkakes/Gb's swing nights etc in the north)
I'm givng you the benefit of the doubt that you've taken a random post in slightly the wrong way (easily done)and formed your views from that (BMW 3 SERIES-!! i'm 40! for god sake ,2 yr old subaru 4x4 estate if it really matters?
If you have class as you say you'll accept a minor error of judgement and offer an apology.
Ghostdog 10 Jan 15:33
Once walked all the way through Deptford. I would not do it again.
that would be the luvvy type that drank in the old dog
Once walked all the way through Deptford. I would not do it again.
that would be the luvvy type that drank in the old dog
Strangely, a lot of the 'nice' places are the worst
Richmond used to get all manner of **coming from Feltham at the weekend, looking for trouble
The same applied to Muswell Hill with Tottenham
Most of the places mentioned are a bit rough and there are shootings etc, but generally they aren't places where people are going looking for trouble with people that they don't know.
Richmond used to get all manner of **coming from Feltham at the weekend, looking for trouble
The same applied to Muswell Hill with Tottenham
Most of the places mentioned are a bit rough and there are shootings etc, but generally they aren't places where people are going looking for trouble with people that they don't know.
I have been in both of your shops wit ham many times, small world eh.
going back roughly 11/12 years ago slippy blue did relief in the area only for a few weeks mind have worked all over london and the south east for old joe before leaving to work for the railway
i bet i've had at least 15% of every private club memeber in London at my adult parties we ran for years (also ran "rougher" bukkakes/Gb's swing nights etc in the north)
yep, just as I thought, really classy fellow
yep, just as I thought, really classy fellow
wit-ham 10 Jan 18:22
Ghostdog 10 Jan 15:33
Once walked all the way through Deptford. I would not do it again.
that would be the luvvy type that drank in the old dog
?
I was looking for somewhere cheap to move to in London. Somebody told me Deptford was alright. It wasn't.
Also on the way to checking out Greenwich, that was suprisingly horrible as well. Park was beautiful though.
Ghostdog 10 Jan 15:33
Once walked all the way through Deptford. I would not do it again.
that would be the luvvy type that drank in the old dog
?
I was looking for somewhere cheap to move to in London. Somebody told me Deptford was alright. It wasn't.
Also on the way to checking out Greenwich, that was suprisingly horrible as well. Park was beautiful though.
moved out of brockley 11 years ago nowhere in that area was what you would call a nice area or should i say feel safe walking on your own
personally threatened by knife thug at bus stop in new cross thankfully a bus pulled up and he jumped on
personally threatened by knife thug at bus stop in new cross thankfully a bus pulled up and he jumped on
Perhaps the irony is perhaps lost on you Tevez we made most of our money from the so called "class" people as our main "profit" clients.Bought my own hotel on the proceeds and lost the lot but thats hardly the issue here i'm merely distinguishing what people guage as "class" was simply business(taxed as well) funded by a couple of ex army officiers
how did you come to lose it bonviv, out of interest?
Hotel in Manchester (the merchants) heamoragged money after a re-furb gone wrong(re-furb comp went bump) ended in bankruptcy and tears as these Faustian enterprises so ofetn do.
Larrence; was a murder (shooting) in Thornton Heath on New Years Eve. Bloke they nicked for it lives around here, but its not rough around here.
Bon Viv, I can accept that we have been a little at cross purposes. However the subject matter of a workshy benefit underclass is something that is a flashpoint for me. Whilst in an advantageous postion myself, I am acutely aware of the plight of many people, the majority of which have little or no choice in the matter. I try my upmost to aid my workers and local people in any way I can. To come on here and read such poisionous comments scattered in such a general way really gets my blood boiling. This may have caused me to overreact and as the main perpetrator I directed my attacks at you. This was perhaps wrong and for that I appologise.
As for your statment that 15% of memebers of private clubs attended adult parties you do not surprise me. The other 85% were probably at my house! ;-)
As for your statment that 15% of memebers of private clubs attended adult parties you do not surprise me. The other 85% were probably at my house! ;-)
group hug bit of smacks on the bottom with towels and all is forgiven?
Have never seen a threatened ruck come off in 7 years on here.
Canning Town, Newham etc are horrible for violence and crime etc but the place I would least like to live - purely for lack of hope - is Kidbrooke.
ALL OF IT, WOULD NOT GO WITHIN 100 MILES OF THAT WARZONE.
I felt pretty rough in Wimbledon this morning if that helps.
Saw a guy near Euston Station today.....looked a bit like you.......had sky blue trainers on....near 5pm....you ...?
the worst estate in london is the mozart in harlesden now that chalk hill has shut down
Silvertown (NAP) - as in "what's the difference between Baghdad and Silvertown?" - DHL won't deliver to Silvertown.
About 35 years ago we played a Sunday League cup tie there; two locals lined up behind each goal and shot airgun pellets at our centre forward and centre half at regular intervals - despite us taking a couple of hefty bouncers from Dagenham as 'cover'.
About 35 years ago we played a Sunday League cup tie there; two locals lined up behind each goal and shot airgun pellets at our centre forward and centre half at regular intervals - despite us taking a couple of hefty bouncers from Dagenham as 'cover'.
Born Grays Inn Road - and cant pinpoint the roughest. Personally found trouble from New Cross to Hammersmith, but not many places as scary as this. Am doing one before the big boys start fighting :)
I did a bit of work in Beckton, Big Charlie would know it. God what a sh!thole.
Sparky.....thought you wouldn't want to stand out that much...........with the garish(gare-ish) footwear...
theguesser 10 Jan 19:47
Silvertown (NAP) - as in "what's the difference between Baghdad and Silvertown?" - DHL won't deliver to Silvertown.
About 35 years ago we played a Sunday League cup tie there; two locals lined up behind each goal and shot airgun pellets at our centre forward and centre half at regular intervals - despite us taking a couple of hefty bouncers from Dagenham as 'cover'.
Wan't against Custom House WMC, was it, or the ASTA social club. I knew al their players in the 70s.
Silvertown (NAP) - as in "what's the difference between Baghdad and Silvertown?" - DHL won't deliver to Silvertown.
About 35 years ago we played a Sunday League cup tie there; two locals lined up behind each goal and shot airgun pellets at our centre forward and centre half at regular intervals - despite us taking a couple of hefty bouncers from Dagenham as 'cover'.
Wan't against Custom House WMC, was it, or the ASTA social club. I knew al their players in the 70s.
My nomination is the Aylesbury estate in Walworth. One of the few places in London that I've genuinely been worried for my safety.
As an aside, I tend to find that people notice crimes that confirm to their expectations. Mugging in Peckham? Well, what do you expect. Mugging in Fulham? How unlucky, poor you.
I'm not saying Fulham isn't safer than Peckham, but the difference in safety between the two is nowhere near as big as people think.
As an aside, I tend to find that people notice crimes that confirm to their expectations. Mugging in Peckham? Well, what do you expect. Mugging in Fulham? How unlucky, poor you.
I'm not saying Fulham isn't safer than Peckham, but the difference in safety between the two is nowhere near as big as people think.
Hoss 10 Jan 19:56
I did a bit of work in Beckton, Big Charlie would know it. God what a sh!thole.
It was worse than a sh1thole before they built on it, Hoss.
Beckton Gas Works was the biggest gas works in the world, their land stretched from Creekmouth (Galleons Reach) down to Eisenhower Drive (half way between ASDA and Custom House on Stansfield Road.
It was all marshes,apart from the prefabs around Eisenhower Drive and the housing estate at Cyprus. It's now covered in private housing, mostly non-blacks, but a lot of chinese, who cause no trouble.
My betting shop was one mile away in Custom House (but the yuppies renamed it West Beckton) in Tollgate Road. And between the houses in Beckton Road and Eisenhower Drive was an abbattoir and a meat processing plant.
It facking stank on a summers day and if there was a westerly breeze, all the houses had to close their windows.
West Ham dog track closed in the early 70s, that was all built over with houses, and the Beckton estates were started a few years later.
The only pub down that way was The Ferndale in Cyprus Place, which use to be a bus terminus, and Terry Spinks betting shop was next door, which was sold to City T.ote.
I did a bit of work in Beckton, Big Charlie would know it. God what a sh!thole.
It was worse than a sh1thole before they built on it, Hoss.
Beckton Gas Works was the biggest gas works in the world, their land stretched from Creekmouth (Galleons Reach) down to Eisenhower Drive (half way between ASDA and Custom House on Stansfield Road.
It was all marshes,apart from the prefabs around Eisenhower Drive and the housing estate at Cyprus. It's now covered in private housing, mostly non-blacks, but a lot of chinese, who cause no trouble.
My betting shop was one mile away in Custom House (but the yuppies renamed it West Beckton) in Tollgate Road. And between the houses in Beckton Road and Eisenhower Drive was an abbattoir and a meat processing plant.
It facking stank on a summers day and if there was a westerly breeze, all the houses had to close their windows.
West Ham dog track closed in the early 70s, that was all built over with houses, and the Beckton estates were started a few years later.
The only pub down that way was The Ferndale in Cyprus Place, which use to be a bus terminus, and Terry Spinks betting shop was next door, which was sold to City T.ote.
Ghostdog 10 Jan 19:28
Greenford=death of the soul
A work mate of mine in his 60s moved out of there two years ago, the storys he tells about the place bl00dy awful and quite sad.
Greenford=death of the soul
A work mate of mine in his 60s moved out of there two years ago, the storys he tells about the place bl00dy awful and quite sad.
Catford Toteboard 10 Jan 18:53
Larrence; was a murder (shooting) in Thornton Heath on New Years Eve. Bloke they nicked for it lives around here, but its not rough around here
even during the day in thornton heath the shop windows are boarded up, drove through their last year going to my nan's funeral (dreadful place!!).
Larrence; was a murder (shooting) in Thornton Heath on New Years Eve. Bloke they nicked for it lives around here, but its not rough around here
even during the day in thornton heath the shop windows are boarded up, drove through their last year going to my nan's funeral (dreadful place!!).
I'm from south of the river ( Stockwell originally ), but back in the day , Canning Town used to have more than its fair share of real headcases - have lived up north too and experienced nothing that came close to E16. Not a clue what CT is like today ,though.
Stan, it's 67% full of blacks and asians, all with knives and guns. A bunch of cvnts.
Only one 'hard case' left there now, Alan Castille, a mate of Albert Readings.
Both appeared on that Kate Kray ' Hard **s' programme.
They're both in their 70s now, but you'd still be wary of Alan.
Only one 'hard case' left there now, Alan Castille, a mate of Albert Readings.
Both appeared on that Kate Kray ' Hard **s' programme.
They're both in their 70s now, but you'd still be wary of Alan.
Big Charlie - I am not 100% but I remember the name was mostly initials so could be ASTA. They were a rough lot; I remember that. LOL. We had a couple of 'faces' from Barking in our side and it was the only time I saw them apprehensive. Needless to say we led at half time and lost, by a couple if I recall.
i think south of the river is worse
but there is some p,ss holes in london
glad i left
but there is some p,ss holes in london
glad i left
clapham commoner 10 Jan 15:04
welling........
Well thats MOST peculiar.
I've lived there for nearly 30 years and have heard about 2 murders, by seeing the signs and a Guy in our street lost his car stereo ( 1990) and thats about it!
When I go out soon I will warm the car up by leaving the engine running and the front door shut. Any thiefs are not to know the car is locked and I've never had a problem doing that.
Try doing that in Clapham..lol
welling........
Well thats MOST peculiar.
I've lived there for nearly 30 years and have heard about 2 murders, by seeing the signs and a Guy in our street lost his car stereo ( 1990) and thats about it!
When I go out soon I will warm the car up by leaving the engine running and the front door shut. Any thiefs are not to know the car is locked and I've never had a problem doing that.
Try doing that in Clapham..lol
RAC club....
Dress code :
Dress Regulations at Pall Mall
The pride which members feel for their Pall Mall clubhouse is reflected in the appropriateness of dress within the building. In general men wear tailored business suit, jacket and trousers together with a collared shirt and tie (no cravats) throughout the clubhouse. Ladies dress with appropriate formality. All respect the spirit of these rules.
Smart casual dress may be worn:
at any time in the Long Bar, Billiards room and on the Club Room terrace or when going between a bedroom and the clubhouse entrance or traversing the Club Room to or from the Long Bar or Club Room terrace
at weekends (6pm Friday to midnight Sunday) throughout the clubhouse except for the Great Gallery, and the Minstrels Gallery
every day in the Brooklands restaurant between 6 and 11am
Sportswear is worn by members and guests only in the sports area and when going directly to or from the clubhouse entrance and the sports area. Members and guests deposit all outer street garments, briefcases, sports holdalls and equipment not for immediate use, packages and other items in the cloakroom on the lower ground floor.
The dress code for sporting activities is displayed in all changing rooms and in the Frigidarium.
The dress regulations do not apply to any person wearing their national dress or the uniform or costume appropriate to their office or vocation.
Definitions: Smart casual Men: No jacket or tie is required. Tailored long or short sleeved open-neck shirts and tailored trousers including chinos. Long or short-sleeved v-neck or crew neck pullovers are acceptable provided they are worn over a collared shirt. Roll-neck and turtleneck sweaters are also acceptable. Shirts must be tucked in at all times. Women: are again asked to dress with commensurate formality. Denim is only acceptable when moving directly between the clubhouse entrance and the sports area. Sportswear shorts, T-shirts, sweat shirts, polo shirts, short-sleeved shirts, plain rugby shirts (without large logos or inscriptions), tracksuits and leggings.
Dress code :
Dress Regulations at Pall Mall
The pride which members feel for their Pall Mall clubhouse is reflected in the appropriateness of dress within the building. In general men wear tailored business suit, jacket and trousers together with a collared shirt and tie (no cravats) throughout the clubhouse. Ladies dress with appropriate formality. All respect the spirit of these rules.
Smart casual dress may be worn:
at any time in the Long Bar, Billiards room and on the Club Room terrace or when going between a bedroom and the clubhouse entrance or traversing the Club Room to or from the Long Bar or Club Room terrace
at weekends (6pm Friday to midnight Sunday) throughout the clubhouse except for the Great Gallery, and the Minstrels Gallery
every day in the Brooklands restaurant between 6 and 11am
Sportswear is worn by members and guests only in the sports area and when going directly to or from the clubhouse entrance and the sports area. Members and guests deposit all outer street garments, briefcases, sports holdalls and equipment not for immediate use, packages and other items in the cloakroom on the lower ground floor.
The dress code for sporting activities is displayed in all changing rooms and in the Frigidarium.
The dress regulations do not apply to any person wearing their national dress or the uniform or costume appropriate to their office or vocation.
Definitions: Smart casual Men: No jacket or tie is required. Tailored long or short sleeved open-neck shirts and tailored trousers including chinos. Long or short-sleeved v-neck or crew neck pullovers are acceptable provided they are worn over a collared shirt. Roll-neck and turtleneck sweaters are also acceptable. Shirts must be tucked in at all times. Women: are again asked to dress with commensurate formality. Denim is only acceptable when moving directly between the clubhouse entrance and the sports area. Sportswear shorts, T-shirts, sweat shirts, polo shirts, short-sleeved shirts, plain rugby shirts (without large logos or inscriptions), tracksuits and leggings.
I thought he said that Whitechapel was o.k. lol
Think he meant Whitehall...
Think he meant Whitehall...
Thornton Heath is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of what has happened to London!
In 1967 my friends Parents moved to "Suburban" Thornton Heath as the Black Guys who moved to Kennington/Stockwell made it a dangerous place to live, which it never was before.
Fast forward 20 years and all the Guys who moved to TH have moved out, further, to Kent/Surrey/Sussex as Thornton Heath became like "Little Jamaica" and by a miraculous co=incidence the crime rate, on the streets, soared.
I can think of 50 "Thornton Heaths" and I LOVE to shake the naive heads of some younger people who just CAN NOT or DO NOT want to realise the impact that these Guys "in numbers" have on any place in any Inner City....
In 1967 my friends Parents moved to "Suburban" Thornton Heath as the Black Guys who moved to Kennington/Stockwell made it a dangerous place to live, which it never was before.
Fast forward 20 years and all the Guys who moved to TH have moved out, further, to Kent/Surrey/Sussex as Thornton Heath became like "Little Jamaica" and by a miraculous co=incidence the crime rate, on the streets, soared.
I can think of 50 "Thornton Heaths" and I LOVE to shake the naive heads of some younger people who just CAN NOT or DO NOT want to realise the impact that these Guys "in numbers" have on any place in any Inner City....
Thats "WOULD LOVE" lol....its the most frustrating point about getting older.
I GUARANTEE that all Londoners over 40 will tell you EXACTLY the same and yet these young guys refuse to believe it.
Of course, its a certainty, that after another 30 years they WILL realise it ( "it" being a large number of Black Guys WILL send the CRime rate on the streets rocketing.
Then THEY will tell the new younger Generation who have not experienced it yet and at that point refuse to believe it! :)
I GUARANTEE that all Londoners over 40 will tell you EXACTLY the same and yet these young guys refuse to believe it.
Of course, its a certainty, that after another 30 years they WILL realise it ( "it" being a large number of Black Guys WILL send the CRime rate on the streets rocketing.
Then THEY will tell the new younger Generation who have not experienced it yet and at that point refuse to believe it! :)
Cupid said to him 'I'll drop you off at Brixton Station at midnight. You'll be carrying a briefcase, a mobile phone and wearing a bit of visible jewellery. All you have to do is walk to Stockwell Station. If you get there without being mugged, I'll give you a monkey ' (£500)
Anybody want to repeat this bet? I'd do it like a shot - done it many times and walked (and lived) in lots of the places mentioned and never been mugged in London - also loved in St pauls in Bristol for 3 years without a hint of trouble. been mugged in leafy Newbury (it's not in lnodon!) and Richmond though. A mate liived in Clapham North/Streatham for 5 year sand was mugged once though and manged to get £3k i think for a broken wrist when all the miuggers got was his keys! I think it's partly to do with attitude as if you walk through an area thinking 'I'm scared, I'm gonna get mugged' you look vulnerable and probably will.
Anybody want to repeat this bet? I'd do it like a shot - done it many times and walked (and lived) in lots of the places mentioned and never been mugged in London - also loved in St pauls in Bristol for 3 years without a hint of trouble. been mugged in leafy Newbury (it's not in lnodon!) and Richmond though. A mate liived in Clapham North/Streatham for 5 year sand was mugged once though and manged to get £3k i think for a broken wrist when all the miuggers got was his keys! I think it's partly to do with attitude as if you walk through an area thinking 'I'm scared, I'm gonna get mugged' you look vulnerable and probably will.
Bangers, ever drink in the White Swan?
am probablt gonna move to London in the nxt year and looks like its gonna be greenwich
can anybody tell me where bloody Belham is though?
am probablt gonna move to London in the nxt year and looks like its gonna be greenwich
can anybody tell me where bloody Belham is though?
theguesser 10 Jan 21:33
Big Charlie - I am not 100% but I remember the name was mostly initials so could be ASTA. They were a rough lot; I remember that. LOL. We had a couple of 'faces' from Barking in our side and it was the only time I saw them apprehensive. Needless to say we led at half time and lost, by a couple if I recall.
ASTA is Andrew Street Tenants Association. You can tell how old the club is by the fact that Andrew Street doesn't exist any more as it got bombed in the war. It was run by the Leahy brothers the last time I was in there, which was about 10 years ago.
My darts team had a clean sweep of the trophies in 1996, all bar one. We won the singles championship, pairs champioship, fours championship, knockout cup (8 a side) captains cup, highest check out (170 - in the singles champioship semi-final by my captain, he beat a player who I had layed for £500 to £100 to win the final, and he had 32 left when my man went to the oche) and the most 180s scored by a team in a season. The only trophy we didn't win was the secretaries cup. The ASTA secretary came from 3-0 down to beat our secretary 5-4.
I was our secretary :(
Big Charlie - I am not 100% but I remember the name was mostly initials so could be ASTA. They were a rough lot; I remember that. LOL. We had a couple of 'faces' from Barking in our side and it was the only time I saw them apprehensive. Needless to say we led at half time and lost, by a couple if I recall.
ASTA is Andrew Street Tenants Association. You can tell how old the club is by the fact that Andrew Street doesn't exist any more as it got bombed in the war. It was run by the Leahy brothers the last time I was in there, which was about 10 years ago.
My darts team had a clean sweep of the trophies in 1996, all bar one. We won the singles championship, pairs champioship, fours championship, knockout cup (8 a side) captains cup, highest check out (170 - in the singles champioship semi-final by my captain, he beat a player who I had layed for £500 to £100 to win the final, and he had 32 left when my man went to the oche) and the most 180s scored by a team in a season. The only trophy we didn't win was the secretaries cup. The ASTA secretary came from 3-0 down to beat our secretary 5-4.
I was our secretary :(
Greenwich seemed nice to me .. my mates sister ran a pub there
Brixtons now for cissys. Aylesbury Estate in Peckham ? - dont go there.
spyker 10 Jan 22:10
- also loved in St pauls in Bristol for 3 years without a hint of trouble.
too much information :) !!
Ironically the places mentioned right at the start of this thread as the nice friendly places are the ones that make me think twice. Islingtons a minefield, they'd gut you as soon as look at you round there!
- also loved in St pauls in Bristol for 3 years without a hint of trouble.
too much information :) !!
Ironically the places mentioned right at the start of this thread as the nice friendly places are the ones that make me think twice. Islingtons a minefield, they'd gut you as soon as look at you round there!
Ive lived in Tooting Asian shop community very Little aggro Tooting is alright ,Morden Fook all ever happens very quite these days ,few kids
hang about on high street but not doing much harm ....
Harlesden/Willesden not for me, Stonebridge Park :^0
other parts of harrow road as rough as ** ,kensal rise rough ,
parts of paddington rough ,latymer road ladbroke grove has some right dodgy parts ..some of the estates there were nearly no go areas
a few years back CCTV and a concierge in each block has made a big difference ..
hang about on high street but not doing much harm ....
Harlesden/Willesden not for me, Stonebridge Park :^0
other parts of harrow road as rough as ** ,kensal rise rough ,
parts of paddington rough ,latymer road ladbroke grove has some right dodgy parts ..some of the estates there were nearly no go areas
a few years back CCTV and a concierge in each block has made a big difference ..
Alex69 10 Jan 15:29
London's soft as sh!t compared to the north (NAP). Oh there's a war on, quick let's all hide in the tube. Oh there's a millimetre of snow, let's all shut everything down & make a big deal of it on the news. FFS...
did pis5 myself at this considering everyone up north is about 25 stone 50 years old and don a moustache
London's soft as sh!t compared to the north (NAP). Oh there's a war on, quick let's all hide in the tube. Oh there's a millimetre of snow, let's all shut everything down & make a big deal of it on the news. FFS...
did pis5 myself at this considering everyone up north is about 25 stone 50 years old and don a moustache
It used to be a bit unseemly at Harvey Nick's bar trying to get served a while ago.
I've lived in Brixton for 3 years and it's not too bad. Generally you won't get in trouble unless you go looking for it. Mind you - there do seem to be a lot of sirens every night though :(
Stonebridge Park is nearly as bad as Djibouti !!. I managed a shop not a million miles from there a good few years ago on the North Circular road in Neasden just opposite a pub called the Pantiles, The armoury in the back of the shop left by the previous manager was impressive!!
Mind you id managed places in Harelsden, Kilburn, Bethnal Green and Commercial road so i really should have been either dead or Certified
You tend to be foolish when you are young
Mind you id managed places in Harelsden, Kilburn, Bethnal Green and Commercial road so i really should have been either dead or Certified
You tend to be foolish when you are young
All this anti London nonsense is ignorant rubbish. There are some dumps in town but there are dumps in every town and every area. A lot of the areas mentioned are a bit mixed but to class them broadly as sh!tholes is nonsense. Hackney for example ranges from the 'Murder mile', which as its name suggests isn't ideal for bringing up a young family, to London Fields, which is one of the nicest areas east of the city and highly recommended on all fronts. Much of Hackney reaches neither extreme of course, but it certainly isn't all a sh!thole.....similar comments could apply to Brixton, Tooting etc etc.
I live in London and it isn't perfect but i definitely wouldn't swap it. For a man with a family it's probably not the best place to live, but if you are young and want to enjoy your life for me it's the best place to live in this country.
I live in London and it isn't perfect but i definitely wouldn't swap it. For a man with a family it's probably not the best place to live, but if you are young and want to enjoy your life for me it's the best place to live in this country.
Belated thanks Big Charlie; that was really interesting. All the roads in lower Limehouse where my dad's family lived are all bulldozed now too. Btw, still love London (and the bit that was once in Essex!)
yes zilzal i worked for old joe around poplar/bethnal green opp charlie's gym about the only place in london i didnt work was affectionally known as rourkes drift or tulse hill to be precise
Welshie, Watney Street, Just off the commercial road and A shop in between Stepney Green and Bethnal Green, both on Relief for William Masseys
Anyone remember Masseys LOL, you had a different colour ticket for every day of the week as they hadnt got carbon slips(circa 1979) oh well at least they let you change the camera yourself!!
We were visiting the wifes grandparents in Manor Park (Manure Park to locals) about 15 years ago, and there was a Masseys betting shop almost next door to their shop.
I put a bet on and left it at that. In the next days paper I saw that I had am 11/8 winner and a non- runner.
It was about 4 months before I was over that again, and the shop had changed hands.
Feckers still owe me £11-87p :(
I put a bet on and left it at that. In the next days paper I saw that I had am 11/8 winner and a non- runner.
It was about 4 months before I was over that again, and the shop had changed hands.
Feckers still owe me £11-87p :(
i have lived in isle of dogs, leyton and balham and been out in a lot of london. tooting not too bad. great curries.
for those saying brixton is sopft as these days. it might be fashionable but there is till plenty of proper diodgy cu**s hanging around looking to cause problems.
came out of brixton tube couple months ago for a concert. literally about 15 black dudes stood on a corner openly selling drugs and intimidating everyone walking past.
lots of crack and smack heads hanging around looking for someone to rob, rip off etc. wasnt impressed to be honest and would never live there.
as previouysly mentioned it is how you carry yourself which matters. why would a mugger pick on someone confident who might fight back when there is some mug who is scvared of own shadow who will be along in 5 mins....
for those saying brixton is sopft as these days. it might be fashionable but there is till plenty of proper diodgy cu**s hanging around looking to cause problems.
came out of brixton tube couple months ago for a concert. literally about 15 black dudes stood on a corner openly selling drugs and intimidating everyone walking past.
lots of crack and smack heads hanging around looking for someone to rob, rip off etc. wasnt impressed to be honest and would never live there.
as previouysly mentioned it is how you carry yourself which matters. why would a mugger pick on someone confident who might fight back when there is some mug who is scvared of own shadow who will be along in 5 mins....
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