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inspiron
05 Jan 10 15:21
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I need to take advantage of the Govt. scrappage scheme and need to know a rough cost how much it would be to replace my boiler. 2 years ago British Gas quoted me £3,200 which I thought was pure madness.

Got an appoint booked with Npower for a quote, they only install valliant boilers which is a bit of a negative.

Wanted to book BG again but their phones been bust since the scrappage announcement today.
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Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 4:27 PM GMT
you having a laugh?
Report Jimbo747 • January 5, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
£3200 sounds about right.
Depending on property/location, cowboys might only charge £2k
Report Ivor • January 5, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
By cowboys you mean properly qualified gas-save persons who don't work at the prices of national company rip-off merchants. We used a local guy - we know his name, we know his home and mobile number - we know where he lives. He's minutes away.
I strongly recommend my ''cowboy'' and yes - dependent on the work required - about £2.5k.
Report pox doctors clerk • January 5, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
inspiron, so much sh1te been posted on here , if its only your boiler then you can get a top model for about a 1000 pounds, i am sure these other posters are getting confused with a full central htg system, that would cost 3-4000 i am a htg engineer by the way
Report pox doctors clerk • January 5, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
why go to british gas just get a local company in to price up b/gas charge top dollar always have done,the local company have certified personnel to give you a safety certificate after installation, never go to british gas unless you want severely ripping off
Report madasahatter • January 5, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
You will struggle to pay over a grand for the boiler.

http://www.discountedheating.co.uk/boiler_chart.php?btype=combi&bfuel=Natural Gas

There may be extras such as pipework and flues. You then have to factor in the labour cost, if it's a straight s** then half-a-day. Disposal of the old boiler plus the VAT, surely £2k would leave a tidy profit for the installer.
Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
Ivor - Where are you?

Only want a boiler replacement, I have all news rads in my house.
Report Joe Jordan • January 5, 2010 4:45 PM GMT
Do you qualify for the Rebate/Discount its very strict on the Rules who gets it ...
Most don't !!
Report pox doctors clerk • January 5, 2010 4:45 PM GMT
inspiron i fitted mine in two hours just to show you a timescale of how long it will take
Report Ivor • January 5, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
West Wales - Loft tank removed, some re-piping, new rad thermo's, combi with best time-controls airing-cupboard heater, clearance of waste etc. 1.5 days short days work.
Report Joe Jordan • January 5, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
Thread Originator ...plz see my 17:45 above ^^
Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
Well I own my house and boiler is over 25 years old. So I qualify.
Report Joe Jordan • January 5, 2010 4:50 PM GMT
can you show us the link ? (plz)
Report morpteh mackem • January 5, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
think the boiler has to be in band g to qualify.
Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jan/05/boiler-scrappage-scheme

Q&A: Boiler scrappage scheme
The government's boiler scrappage scheme allows households with the least efficient boilers to claim £400 towards a new one. How does it work?

Story in full: Boiler scrappage scheme launched
Buzz up!
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Lisa Bachelor
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 5 January 2010 14.30 GMT
Article history
The government today launched a boiler scrappage scheme to persuade households in England with the least energy efficient heating systems to upgrade them. A £400 discount is on offer to those that do.

What is the point of the scrappage scheme?

Domestic heating accounts for 14% of the UK's CO2 emissions, and the government has set ambitious targets for reducing them. According to the Energy Saving Trust there are about 3.5m homes in England with the least efficient type of boiler (G-rated). Upgrading these will help reduce emissions.

How do I qualify?

You must live in England and be either a homeowner or a private tenant. Landlords of multiple properties can apply, as long as each voucher is assigned to a different property. The scheme is not open to Registered Social Landlords and housing associations as they are covered by alternative schemes such as the government's Decent Homes programme.

If you are under 60 the boiler needs to be in working order and be the main source of heat for the home. If you are over 60 you can apply for the scheme regardless of whether the boiler works or not. However, it still needs to be the main boiler used to heat the home.

What about the boiler itself?

You must have the least efficient type of boiler, a G-rated one. A quick test for gas boilers is to see if it has a permanent pilot light if so it is likely to be G-rated. If it is gas fired and more than 15 years old it is also likely to be eligible. Likewise, if it is oil fired and more than 25 years old.

You can also check if your boiler would qualify by searching the government's boiler efficiency database.

Alternatively, you can ask your nominated installer whether your boiler is eligible, or call the Energy Saving Trust on 0800 512 012. An adviser will ask a series of questions to determine your eligibility.

How do I get the £400?

You should get a number of quotes from different installers. Installation of a gas or oil boiler must be carried out by an installer registered with a competent person's scheme such as the Gas Safe Register or OFTEC. Installation of a microgeneration technology must be carried out by a person qualified under the Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS). Some companies will offer complementary deals to encourage you to scrap and replace your boiler with them. Once you have chosen an installer you will need to get a quote in order to register for a voucher.

Which boilers and manufacturers can the vouchers be redeemed against?

Vouchers can be redeemed against any A-rated or equivalent gas, oil or LPG boiler, boilers with a passive flue heat recovery device, micro CHP units or MCS-registered biomass boilers and heat pumps. Solar thermal energy systems are also covered if combined with an eligible boiler replacement. Electric boilers are not eligible, regardless of manufacturer.

How do I use the voucher?

Once you have received your £400 voucher you can get your boiler fitted. Unfortunately, you will need to fork out for the installation upfront; you only get the money back by returning the voucher to the Energy Saving Trust with an invoice once the work is done. If you carry out the installation before you receive your voucher you will invalidate your claim and no longer be eligible for the £400 rebate.

Payment will be issued within 25 working days of receipt of the voucher and invoice.

What if I can't afford to pay upfront?

The Energy Saving Trust points out that a number of other schemes operate for low income households and those over the age of 60, including the Warm Front scheme. Anyone applying for the £300 grant for a broken boiler under Warm Front can instead apply for an A-rated boiler under the scrappage scheme. But they can't apply for both schemes.

Which companies are offering deals alongside the scrappage scheme?

British Gas and npower have both said they will match the £400 rebate with an additional £400. Terms and conditions apply. Other energy companies may follow suit.

Anything else I should know?

To protect against fraud, the Energy Saving Trust says all submitted vouchers must contain the customer's and the installer's signature, as well as the Gas Safe/MCS registration number of the installer.

Legally, any work carried out on a gas boiler has to be registered with the Gas Safe Register as matter of course. The Energy Saving Trust will periodically check voucher claims against work registered with Gas Safe. In addition, a random selection of pre- and post-boiler installations will be checked.
Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 4:53 PM GMT
My boiler is in band g, pilot light always on.
Report madasahatter • January 5, 2010 4:56 PM GMT
According to the Heating and Hotwater Industry Council the average cost of a boiler and installation is around £2,500. The website www.ratedpeople.com allows you to post your requirements and qualified trades people can bid for the business.
Report sidthekid • January 5, 2010 5:06 PM GMT
""British Gas and npower have both said they will match the £400 rebate with an additional £400. Terms and conditions apply. Other energy companies may follow suit.""

Thats because they charge £1,000 more than most other firmsor independent Gas fitters.
Report sidthekid • January 5, 2010 5:19 PM GMT
Bird on the news wanting help with her 10 year old Boiler, my gas Boiler is 24 years old, Never had a Problem.
Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
My boiler is at least 25 years old
Report Hearts.no1 • January 5, 2010 6:05 PM GMT
sods law got mine replaced this summer from scottish gas,cost me £2,100 , got chatting to the lad who fitted it self-employed paid per unit by scottish gas.

he told me you could buy the same boiler for £800 and he would take £250 to install it,felt gutted £1,050 down the swanee ;\
Report johnizere • January 5, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
And I bet he gets nowhere near 250 from Scottish gas either!
Isn't it great when you often hear of a bargain after having paid top whack?
Report Hearts.no1 • January 5, 2010 6:20 PM GMT
tell me about it :(
Report Fait le jojo • January 5, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
my new platinum condensing boiler cost 1400 and 300 to fit
Report Fait le jojo • January 5, 2010 6:22 PM GMT
band "A" ^^^^
Report Derren Brown • January 5, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
Just had a new boiler fitted before xmas.
Valliant good spec combi with remote control thermostat. More than enough for a detached 5 bed house. £2000 inc fitting do not use a power company just ask around
Report Derren Brown • January 5, 2010 7:56 PM GMT
That included 2 new radiators as well
Report kohaku • January 5, 2010 8:01 PM GMT
Boil a Kettle.& put more clothes on.
Report inspiron • January 5, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
Thanks all. I'll have to find a non cowboy fitter
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