Lets see who is responsible for London murders in 2010....

It''s cos their black innit

Bangka-Deshi?

Yes slicer - we could do a comparison with terrorists of the C21st compared with those of the late C20th and see how many were Catholic and Protestant and just why they react(ed) the way they do(did).

:D Usually our cities are being over run by ''incomers'', but when it suits the arguament, ''Will the perpetrators be the overwhelming White population who live in all kinds of areas ''

Good thread this. We all need to know the truth ;)

Remember in 2004 that the Black percentage of all Londoners was, easily, under 10%, as demonstrated by the victims statistic:

If it's easily under 10% then why are racists getting so het up about being overrun and being 'ethnically cleansed' as the bnp like to say? Are you saying that these people are all talking nonsense and they aren't after all being overrun?

'VICTIMS? Out of 175,000---155,000 were described as "White Females" and 20,000 other Racial Groups...

Source?

As I clearly stated Mr.Sparmaster these figures are no longer broken down by Ethnicity in the interests of Community Relations.

As I'm sure you know these figures are DELIBERATELY not published, my friend.

These were published in The London Evening Standard at the time.

Ah, so you're asking us to take your word for it?

Probably a quote, perhaps by someone who's 1st name is Nick ;)

I'm afraid the apologists know they have an easy "get out of jail card" ( pun intended) as this figures were removed and are no longer broken down.

These were widely reported at the time and none have been reported in the last 5 years.

so the figures are not deliberately published, but were deliberately published?

sorry deliberately not published

Why was there no big uproar at the time, I would have been fuming.

They're on an archived Telegraph page somewhere - i looked it up last time this came up - no mention of the victims though.

Chatty - are we being overrun or not? I'm confused now.......

Ive had a correct score at Billys... 96-3 to the Black fellas.

Only 14s but value imo

Be interested to see how many of the victims are described as "a promising footballer"

I found some mobile phone theft figues for 2007, the OP might want to ignore them though. Maybe things changed dramatically between 04 & 07.

http://www.crimereduction.homeoffice.gov.uk/statistics/statistics065.htm

Yep 2005/2006
"There was no significant difference in mobile phone theft rates between males and females"

2004 must have been some year.

Ive had over 25 victims will be.." Church going lads who would not hurt anyone and loved their Mum."

Or before 2004
Series: Home Office Research Study 235, January 2002

Mobile phone robbery is in the main a male on male activity

Maybe one white woman was carrying 8000 phones when she was mugged by a black lad in Harringay, (Feb 2004).

Or maybe you're just full of sh1te, nochatname? And on that note I'm off to watch the match.

I'm sure we all agree that the only true comparison is in a mixed area.

Obviously in an all Black/Asian/White area the assailliants will be of that origin.

So Manchester/Nottingham/Bristol/BirminghamLondon will be the relevant ones....

thornton heath , i was working and lodging there last year, not a nice place at all, and they were 2 murdered last year in a private party whilst i was there

I saw a documentary on channel 4 where a normal white guy blacked himself up and went down the street to see how it would affect him. Within 45 minutes he had comitted two street robberies and one violent assault. So it proves that the colour of your skin does make a difference.

:) at rob

It really opened my eyes jbha. Brasseye I think it was called.

Was it Al Jolson?

Chris Morris I think he did few good documentaries - exploded a few myths etc. They had footage too, he just started beating someone up for no apparent reason - it must've been because he'd been blacked up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsgRlPoDEvk&feature=related

I found it. It happens immediately after the break - about 4mins 20 seconds.

Shocking stuff, don't look if you don't like violent crime.

mmmm........ cake.......

Do tall people do more murders than short people?, I think they do
I saw a program once about tall people being more violent than short people
Not sure how tall the murdererer is that done the Thornton Heath New Year's Eve pub party murder, but I bet he's well over 6 foot

A mate of mine who works at Haringey council tells me they secretly fund an all-white posse of skinheads to go out after dark kicking passers-by to death.

The reason is to even out the racial murder stats and stop them making headlines in the daily mail.

Forget skin colour,see how many murderers didn`t have a father as a role model,might be interesting,then again might not.

You never hear about a dwarf that's been out on a killing spree, not even a black one

from the sydney herald.
(the gatekeepers don't allow the truth about black crime to be published in the uk.)


The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War. It determined the result of last year's congressional election.

Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which remains between the lines and unreported. In fact, to even suggest that the war exists is to be discredited. So let's start suggesting, immediately.

No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.

And the problem is getting worse, not better. In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster then the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America:

According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.


Most victims of race crime about 90 per cent are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published in 1993.


Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.


Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent crimes of whites.


According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.
These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning the modern civil rights movement.

Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparison 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.

When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have commited at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II.

All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic* double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard.

How can anyone really argue about this thread?

OP is going to list every murder. We are then left with cold hard FACTS.

It might even surprise some of you... :0

No chatname registerd 03 Jan 11:49
Why would they void it?We are not being judgemental, just publishing the facts of every reported London murder.



They pulled my NEWHAM RECORDER thread on politics.

All I did was report the serious crime for about 6 weeks, and noted the ethnicity of the criminals. Whenthe ocutn started to favour one group to a significant extent, it got pulled.

Every item had a link to the newspaper website, but one of the luvvies called me a liar (as they do) so I asked him/her/it repeatedly to show us all the lies (as I do) He/she/it couldn't do it, but posted obscene abuse about me and others on 3 different fora, so I won that argument quite easily.

Forumite 'sap' said I was racist.

Somebody posted that all the links led to the papers website, and suggested he contact the editor to comlpain of the racist content.

Then the thread got pulled, and he/she/it has vanished.

The leftie moderators don't like the truth.

The thread was all proven truth, but it still got pulled.

It's why he's doing it that's the issue, thicko.
And as for the post previous to yours - it's almost fckin' unbelievable. History as we all know started 30 yrs ago when black Africans invaded white America.

That's it. I'm done with this place. Only so long can one tolerate the prejudices of the nearly brain dead, before becoming tired of so doing.

Good luck to you remaining humans on chit-chat. From now on I'll just concnetrate on taking money from the site rather than posting on here. Hopefully some of that money has come from idiots' pockets.

he'll be back

Main article: Ethnic groups in London
According to the Office for National Statistics, based on 2006 estimates, 69.4 per cent of the 7.5 million inhabitants of London were White, with 58 per cent White British, 2.5 per cent White Irish and 8.9 per cent classified as Other White. Some 13.1 per cent are of South Asian descent, with Indians making up 6.5 per cent of London's population, followed by Bangladeshis and Pakistanis at 2.3 per cent each. 2 per cent are categorised as "Other Asian".

10.7 per cent of London's population are Black, with around 5.5 per cent being Black African, 4.3 per cent as Black Caribbean and 0.7 per cent as "Other Black". 3.5 per cent of Londoners are of mixed race; 1.5 per cent are Chinese; and 1.9 per cent belong to another ethnic group.[5] As of 2008, 40% of London's total population was from an ethnic minority group.[109]

Across London, Black and Asian children outnumber White British children by about six to four.[110] In January 2005, a survey of London's ethnic and religious diversity claimed that there were more than 300 languages spoken and more than 50 non-indigenous communities which have a population of more than 10,000 in London.[111] Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that, as of 2006, London's foreign-born population is 2,288,000 (31%), up from 1,630,000 in 1997.[112]

The 2001 census showed that 27.1% of Greater London's population were born outside the UK, and a slightly higher proportion were classed as non-white.[113] The table to the right shows the 'Country of Birth' of London residents in 2001, the date of the last UK Census. (Top 21).[103] A portion of the German-born population are likely to be British nationals born to parents serving in the British Armed Forces in Germany.[

Can I wade in with the Armed Response Unit stats, given by a copper in CO19, (BBC three weeks ago)

'75% of the gun crime in London is commited by blacks, and 50% of the victims are black.'

Not whites, not asians, but blacks.

Can you do the same for child molestation?

Big Charlie, please quote me correctly i called you a racist pig of the most despicable kind. BTW, take a look at Norwich, the very capital of your proud Norfolk, and the crime rates there are substantially higher than that of Newham despite the fact that Newham is one of the most deprived areas in the UK.

the answer to the original question is...people!

sap 03 Jan 19:10
Big Charlie, please quote me correctly i called you a racist pig of the most despicable kind. BTW, take a look at Norwich, the very capital of your proud Norfolk, and the crime rates there are substantially higher than that of Newham despite the fact that Newham is one of the most deprived areas in the UK.

Why is it racist to report facts if I'm not leaving out white crime ?

I live almost 60 miles from Norwich and have no interest in it as I've never lived there.

Feel free to start A NORWICH DAILY BLAB thread.

You also said on politics that the BNP will rise in Barking as it's full of 'knuckle dragging fascists' who will vote for Griffin.

I told you that Griffin is 9/2 to win the seat, and asked if you had plunged on.

As far as I recall I never saw your reply, so you can do it on here instead.

rogerthebutler 03 Jan 19:01
Can you do the same for child molestation?

I don't think that CO19 attend child molestation cases.

You'll have to wait for a programme on the BBC about it, and if they mention the percetange of which race do most, I'll repeat it on here.

sorry folks...but at risk of being called a bigot (again)...im with charlie here!......if the stats bear something out...then why ignore it?

i dont normally like to generalise, however..the statement..."black people are generally naughty" has a fair old bit of evidence to support it!....its not racist or nasty or bigoted....its just fact!......and if it makes me a bigot for saying it, well so be it!

BC, If you have a genuine concern about crime rates what are the motives in targeting Newham? Newham is hardly a representation of this country.

Linking

i am not attempting to be rational....just honest!......if you take the percentage of black people in the general population compared to the percentage of black prison inmates...and do the same for whites/asians/chinese/others......you will see where im coming from!

what odds are you offering on black ppl?

on black ppl doing what?

What's the motive in focusing on skin colour? Why not choose hair or eye colour?

Crime is linked to poverty and social depravation and not skin colour. A person born with black pigmentation is no likely to commit a crime than someone born with white pigmentation.

ballacks!.......you can concentrate on hair colour if you like....ok........the proportion of prisoners with curly afro "brillo" hairstyles compared to the population with said hairstyle is disproportionate when compared to people with other hairstyles!.....dress it up whichever way you like!!

i was simply requesting odds on the greatest number of murders in london, in 2010, being committed by black males.

whats more...they ** revel in it....listen to some of the crap that they call music....going on about niggaz shooting this...and niggaz killing that...niggaz robbing this and niggaz blow you away!.....sorry pal but facts are facts!....im no racist or bigot...but i will not ignore what is slapping me in the face!

Very ignorant to suggest that crime levels is a function of skin pigmentation.

the odds would vary hugely from arewa to area depending upon the concentration of blacks per area......but in any are where the representation of black males was the same as white males....then id be going 4/7 more blacks....7/4 more whites/others!......and i would expect to be knocked off my board with takers for the blacks at those prices!

sap.......im not suggesting that it is solely based on skin pigmentation......its to do with the culture and way of life of those with such skin pigmentation....some of them have no work ethic at all and are programmed to simply take what they want!....some of them come from places where the world quite simply works in a totally different way to the one we are used to!.....im not blaming them for the colour of their skin...and if they were white, id be saying exactly the same (which incidentally i do say about some of the eastern european**bags floating around in this country!)

armchair

Slapping you in the face??

I knew they were supposed to have big ones but.......

larrys.....this is when my old posts come back to haunt me right?

armchair- you speak some sense man!

thanks ripper pal!.......i am constantly being accused of being a bigot....but im just an honest bloke....and if the stats said that white men were generally naughty then id have no problem posting it up.......im not afraid to say what i see....and if that makes me a monster or a bigot then so be it!,.....but the p.c brigade on here calling me a fat bigot will not alter anything!

What is the point of this thread? If you want to know the answer watch crime watch or have they begun doctoring that to show a more "balanced" representation of bangers and blaggers?

The bottom line is that you can't take some of these damaged individuals from some of the worst hell holes on earth and not expect repercussions (eg Somalia). Some of those kids will have had a gun in their hands before a knife and fork and most of them have a heart rending story to tell.

There are only three things certain in this sorry tale:

1 Certain groups will disproportionately show up in certain crime categories.

2 As long as there is a lefty with breath in his body feck all will get done about it.

3 Inner cities will continue to develop a cosmopolitan, edgy and richly diverse flavour or degenerate into greater shiit holes depending on your perspective.

Having said all that I'll have a tenner on the darkies.

for what its worth...ive met loads of white blokes..and almost as many coloured guys....and asians and chinese......and i can honestly say that generally, the black guys have no work ethic...the asian guys are really hard working but really selfish, the chinese are just plain mad!.......this isnt bigoted..and if you think that they dont talk about us in this way, then you obviously dont know any of them!

unfortunately that is the secret weapon of the 'pc brigade' if you say something that they dont like you automatically become a 'bigot', 'racist', 'nazi', 'stalinist', 'communist' etc

larrys....the 4/7 went an hour ago!.....its 1/3 on all bets now....and apparently, the chinese are a bit dodgy on winter going...so you could be looking at a 10p in the £ deduction!

ripper.....ive been all those things and worse!....i tend to keep away from the politics forum now...as i was on the verge of being lynched for speaking my mind!.......big charlie speaks so much honesty and sense yet again has been ridiculed as a bigot!......ffs, since when has it been wrong to say what you can see is blatantly true?.....thats what is wrong with this country..we have lost the will to stick up for ourselves!

ripper.....i will repeat here something i said ages ago (and was labelled a bigot for).....i have no problem with going to my local hospital and seeing a bulgarian brain surgeon.....because,we have a shortage of skilled brain surgeons here!.....what i do have a huge problem with is going to my local 24 hour garage and having to draw a picture of a packet of fags for a sri lankan immigrant working behind the counter!......ffs, there are 2 million of us looking for work, which skills shortage is the sri lankan filling?......what would the chances be of me getting housing and a job in sri lanka?.....does this make me a bigot?

armchair

Feck me typical bookie. You spot a bit of value and they either knock you back or limit you to buttons.

come on larry....you didnt imagine that the 4/7 was a real offer did you?........its just like willy hillys on a saturday morning!....i pretend to offer you a price...and as soon as you look a bit interested..i tell you that harry and his hoovers have stolen it!

Aint that the truth. :)

Most criminals in prison are white working class yet we're told that demographic is shrinking, most black people are working class/from a poorer background also could there possibly be a (long established) link between class/poverty and criminality?

if you see the percentages of the black male population in London and the percentage of prison population in the city the results are truly staggering

but better doing as the MET bosses/politicians/do-gooder groups etc do - burying head in the sand/accuse of racism/deny any such problem



feel sorry for the good people of London no matter what colour they are

A white man was found dead at his computer yesterday in a suspicious and suspected state-sponsored assassination in an attempt to prevent a race war. The blonde bird from Spooks said she was washing her hair at the time and didn't know anything about it.

sap 04 Jan 01:16
BC, If you have a genuine concern about crime rates what are the motives in targeting Newham? Newham is hardly a representation of this country.

Did you miss my post at 1:01 ?

I used to live in Newham, for over 50 years. I saw it go from a sh1thole to a dangerous sh1thole, so me, and another 180,00o indigenous whites , moved out over the years. My daughters no longer live in Newham, but they arelt' far oenough ugh away from it for my liking.

So I take an interest.

sap 04 Jan 01:26
What's the motive in focusing on skin colour? Why not choose hair or eye colour?

Okay, Do you think the number of crimes commited by people in Newham is evenly distributed between those with brown eyes and those wiith a different colour (blue, green, grey or any other shade, but not brown)

I'll take 1.05 it's brown.

Apply the same to hair and I'll lay 50s it's blond or blonde, as criminals come from both sexes.

unless there has been a fashion fad/sale on peroxide .i will give you 550/1

sap 04 Jan 01:29
Crime is linked to poverty and social depravation and not skin colour. A person born with black pigmentation is no likely to commit a crime than someone born with white pigmentation.

You reckon ?

The populatiion of Newham is 240,000.

At least 160,000 of those are immigrants.

In a recognised poor borough, such as Newham, we will count everybody as skint.

Theoretically, the immigrants will commit twice as much crime as the indigenous whites, as there are twice as many of them.

Factually, that is complete b0ll0cks, but that's was what you and others argued against on the NEWHAM RECORDER thread.

I think the last count was 58 serious crimes in 6 weeks.

3 had no ethnicity stated, 5 or 6 were by indigenous whites, (including one murder, but the leftie govt let him out early, he was already a convicted killer, but he did it again. NOW he's locked up for life).

The other 49 or 50 were by blacks or asians.

Does that look like a 2:1 ratio to you ?

I read a very good analysis by Anthony Hall, a Black Professor.

He ridiculed Ken Livingstones's policy think tank as to why Black Boys OF CARIBBEAN descent underachieve.

He said its all about CULTURE NOT SKIN COLOUR!

The Jamaican Culture ( seen the ratio of murders in Jamaica-highest in the World?) has spread to the Caribbean Black British Guys of the last 3/4 Generations.

Same with the fertility rate and the percentage of Single-Parent households, which, obviously, disadvantage a child from a single-parent Family.

As he knows one CAN overcome a single=Parent childhood but its like running a 100 yard race and you start 10 yards behind. ( does NOT mean to say you can't win but uits difficult).

Boys join gangs due to CULTURAL peer pressure and to compensate for no Role-Model "Father Figure" with all its social repercussions.

Studying is NOT "cool" but tiresome and "long" and this racial group, more than any other, is into Consumerism and "bling" but do not want to do the work ( unlike the Jewish/Chinese/Asiatic people) that this requires, hence street crime is the obvious and quick option.

So the AFRICAN "Culture" involves much more hard work and Professional status a la Ghana/Nigeria...there studying is positively encouraged as is the Family structure so to re-iterate ITS BLACK CULTURE ( Caribbean) NOT "skin colour.

The comment about melanin and skin colour are DIVERSIONS...its about Culture which is why African children, direct from Africa itself, DO WELL in schools yet Black boys of Caribbean descent ( the majority) do less well than other racial groups.

The Africans doing well makes a farce of the assumption that its "stereotyping" that is keeping a DISPROPORTIONATE amount of Black Boys underacieving in schools/colleges.

"there studying" meaning "over there-studying" etc..

I pretty much detest 80% of the English white race - I think they are lazy, self centred, poorly educated and ignorant. However, that said there is no doubt that black fellas are more partial to a shanking/shooting than their white counterparts. I think to argue otherwise is fairly futile in the face of evidence. I live in Brixton and am white for the record.

nobody 'lives' in Brixton

Well you get a lot of floor space for your pound and it's zone 2. I have only been in a fight once in three years and I was really**ed on that occasion.

score update please

used to live in london myself was theatened twice by people with instruments of a stabbing nature
a jamacian ladyfriend once said to me "im leaving as it's getting to black around here"says a lot to me
also
my wife's niece went out with a nigerian man and the stories that they come here as it's to corrupt back home i.e just going for a job interview involved bribing the doorman just to get in the building,then the receptionist just to get in for the interview,shows the culture they come from.
have been held up in betting shops twice, both with instruments of a firing nature once in london and once in essex, done by different people with different colour hair and eyes

just spent a couple of months working in Bristol centre, parking in st pauls to avoid charges and walking in . 7 days a week, car left sometimes 12 hrs. Only trouble i saw was in centre with white drug addicts shoplifting

Here you are sap, straight off the internet 10 minutes ago

NORWICH HEADLINES
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Youth mugged for his phone in Bowthorpe
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Pi$$head attacked his partner 3 times
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Aggresive drunk grabs PC by the throat
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Man spits at motorist
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14 year old girl has £1k worth of nicked goods at her home
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5 teenagers arrested for burglary

[b]NEWHAM HEADLINES [/b]
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A man was shot in the early hours in Canning Town this morning.
Operation Trident are investigating.
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A father who pointed an air pistol at his step-son and warned: "I'll kill you" has been jailed for 15 months. Mohammed Waseem, 41, broke a court order banning him from contacting his estranged wife and children when he threatened 24-year-old Asif Hussain.
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Babar Ali Shah, 36, of Upton Heights, Upton Lane, was convicted of attempted murder in a retrial at the Old Bailey. He was also found guilty of assault and possessing a firearm with an intent to endanger life.
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Police unit seizes £500,000 gang cash. they say 'Nobody has come forwerd to claim it' :^0
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Police use Taser gun in Stratford to arrest suspects in a ahooting.
It is believed the man was shot in Walthamstow and police have confirmed sightings of a group of men in the area wielding a shotgun. (Ethnicity not stated, I go well odds on it's black or asian)
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£30m drugs haul - A dutch bloke, an asian and one other
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Rissasy Nyimbi, 18, of Vanguard Close, Canning Town, brandished a knife before his friend Chris Mazekelua, 17, of Hooper Road, also Canning Town, stabbed Steven Lewis.
Lewis was black, another case for Operation Trident.
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Child sex attacker locked up. Anthony Siequien, ethnicity not obvious nor stated, but he's got a strange name, may not be indigenous white, who knows?

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Now, all you chaps looking in, if you HAD to bring up your family in Norwich or Newham, where would you left wing non-racist let them all in multicultural pinkos choose ?

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all i can say charlie is the truth herts, this will be a long fred but will get pulled because of the police state we live in, as we all know we cant say anything about whats going on

The more the loonies try to say it isn't happening, the more support the BNP will get.

And the govt doing nothing, or too little too late, only adds fuel to the fire.

Big Charlie 04 Jan 19:11
The more the loonies try to say it isn't happening, the more support the BNP will get.

And the govt doing nothing, or too little too late, only adds fuel to the fire.

must agree charlie but what your saying is termed as racist nowdays
we are not allowed to say anything

BC i'm sure you missed a pushbike stolen at the railway station in norwich