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as a big sufferer myself, was elated to hear tonight that this was one of the most unattractive traits in men by females.
after reaching 26 it's become clear to me that things like money, good looks, sense o' humour, background etc are insignificant to achieving a happy or content state of existance.
females who lack confidence aree fine. it's not nearly so important. males who lack it? FORGET IT.
you will be percived as weak, and looked over in all walks of life.
don't get me wrong, i've met, and been close to girls before, but to reach that comfortable stage takes time and in th rare times you can achive this state it's always ballsed up when u have to meet the mates or family. if her circle of mates or family think yoiur a socially retarded moron then it's NEVER goi9ng to work. so what did you think of "xxxxxxxxx"?? ummmmmmmm. he's ok. what do you mean by ok? well not sure, but i think you could do better..... DOOMED.
would love to be abkle to overcome it. but can't think of anyone who once was shy, who managed to overcome it and became more socially adequate. not one.
i don't think it's summit you can ever change. i'd pay thousands just to be able to overcome it. drink and drugs help no end, short term that is. but that's it. no long term solution. believe me i've been tryiong for over 10 years.
after reaching 26 it's become clear to me that things like money, good looks, sense o' humour, background etc are insignificant to achieving a happy or content state of existance.
females who lack confidence aree fine. it's not nearly so important. males who lack it? FORGET IT.
you will be percived as weak, and looked over in all walks of life.
don't get me wrong, i've met, and been close to girls before, but to reach that comfortable stage takes time and in th rare times you can achive this state it's always ballsed up when u have to meet the mates or family. if her circle of mates or family think yoiur a socially retarded moron then it's NEVER goi9ng to work. so what did you think of "xxxxxxxxx"?? ummmmmmmm. he's ok. what do you mean by ok? well not sure, but i think you could do better..... DOOMED.
would love to be abkle to overcome it. but can't think of anyone who once was shy, who managed to overcome it and became more socially adequate. not one.
i don't think it's summit you can ever change. i'd pay thousands just to be able to overcome it. drink and drugs help no end, short term that is. but that's it. no long term solution. believe me i've been tryiong for over 10 years.
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actually it is obvious you have not. though your views above are widely held they are actually wrong.
Read The Game and to coin a cliche... End of Thread.
Read The Game and to coin a cliche... End of Thread.
i very much doubt it's wrong my friend.
how many outgoing, confident, losers have you met?
how many outgoing, confident, losers have you met?
Nash. This is one of those situations where I am 100% right and you just don't know it yet. I could write a bit about it on here but tbh it spoils a good book. The book is a story based on a true story and a good read. I heard about it and bought it for a freind, he is now a different man, albeit the same person underneath.
Just get the book, and thank me later.
Just get the book, and thank me later.
i will look into it. thanks. and i cross my fingers that it is that simple.
Thinking on I might reread it as I am recently single again lol.
Shyness is nice, and
Shyness can stop you
From doing all the things in life
You'd like to...
Shyness can stop you
From doing all the things in life
You'd like to...
Jim Hensen 20 Dec 02:24
actually it is obvious you have not. though your views above are widely held they are actually wrong.
Isn't that the problem? If the views are widely held ,it doesn't matter if they are wrong The fact they are widely held is what is screwing him.
He still ends up the loser.
actually it is obvious you have not. though your views above are widely held they are actually wrong.
Isn't that the problem? If the views are widely held ,it doesn't matter if they are wrong The fact they are widely held is what is screwing him.
He still ends up the loser.
they are widely held by people lacking in confidence sociallly. They are easily overcome, and therefore wrong. If that makes more sense.
At the worst the book is a good read. I think it was an international bestseller so cannot be too shabby, and it is aimed at just such a person, though I think he may be fishing lol.
At the worst the book is a good read. I think it was an international bestseller so cannot be too shabby, and it is aimed at just such a person, though I think he may be fishing lol.
Google The game & mystery method and you will find a million websites spin offs from it. I guess the actual material is very dated but the principles remain the same. Some good insight into how women think which is the key.
DO NOT try to impress Ladies!
When you intentionally try to impress a woman,
you send the following messages on a "subtle"
level:
1) I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I
will try to "impress" you instead.
2) I'm not comfortable enough around women to just
act normal.
3) I don't have a lot of experience with
attractive women.
4) I'm insecure.
5) I don't know how to make women feel comfortable
with me.
Just be "natural" and try to tease them.:)
When you intentionally try to impress a woman,
you send the following messages on a "subtle"
level:
1) I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I
will try to "impress" you instead.
2) I'm not comfortable enough around women to just
act normal.
3) I don't have a lot of experience with
attractive women.
4) I'm insecure.
5) I don't know how to make women feel comfortable
with me.
Just be "natural" and try to tease them.:)
and if that fails insist they show you their chest.
and dont forget to say ta
and dont forget to say ta
Try not to say only say "cool" things, or things
that will "impress" the woman.
Do not act nervous and stilted during the
conversation, this can come across as "formal."
If you do say something that the woman doesn't
like,do not "back-pedal" and try to change what
you said .
IMPORTANT!
Try to say "risky" things, tease the woman, and, very occassionally, "upset" her and then make amends.
that will "impress" the woman.
Do not act nervous and stilted during the
conversation, this can come across as "formal."
If you do say something that the woman doesn't
like,do not "back-pedal" and try to change what
you said .
IMPORTANT!
Try to say "risky" things, tease the woman, and, very occassionally, "upset" her and then make amends.
after we've finished laughing of course
I big tip is spend all yer time on here typing complete b0llocks and wait for the birds to come a knocking ;)
absolutely,loose women are falling over themselves to get involved with top forumites
Its all in the mind. tell yourself you dont give a sh1t.
most chicks are only interested in one thing
me
me
If the Woman in the office is very attractive, befriend her but then let the other Guys swarm around her like Bees to a honetpot and laugh about it with her but instead of joining in keep your distance and she will be curious and wonder you are the only Male NOT fawning all over her and she will investigate..lol
sound advice,don't make the mistake of being awestruck and stick em on a pedestal,they're as intimidated of men as you are of them.
One important point there from opening post
women being shy isnt a problem - disagree on that a little. A woman with confidence important imo. Dont want to be with a pushover.
Thats the key for me both women and men want to meet their match with a partner not feel like the other has an inferiority complex
women being shy isnt a problem - disagree on that a little. A woman with confidence important imo. Dont want to be with a pushover.
Thats the key for me both women and men want to meet their match with a partner not feel like the other has an inferiority complex
STEPTOES YARD 20 Dec 08:50
I big tip is spend all yer time on here typing complete b0llocks and wait for the birds to come a knocking ;)
:D
I big tip is spend all yer time on here typing complete b0llocks and wait for the birds to come a knocking ;)
:D
in the modern world , with women having access to anne summers and internet porn , I reckon if your not packing 7 inch plus it doesnt matter if your a shy guy or mr bombastic pretty fantastic,YOU MAY ASWELL BECOME GAY
Sadly I'm a pauper but its amazing how "sexy" and "attractive2 a Man looks and seems when he is holding lots of folding...
Suddenly the rich Guy has a great "personality" and "charisma" about him and is incredibly witty and funny...:)
just find a group of ladies
go over and chat to the ugliest one.
the rest will wonder what the hell is going on.
thats it.take your pick ;)
oh was that the front door or the back door :D
go over and chat to the ugliest one.
the rest will wonder what the hell is going on.
thats it.take your pick ;)
oh was that the front door or the back door :D
Hate to burst any balloons but "the game" and it's sequel"rules of the game" is written by a journo you dozy twonks.Having said that the book is an amusiing read and could be of use to some.Oddly most people who buy it are asian males.
BonViv 20 Dec 12:43
Hate to burst any balloons but "the game" and it's sequel"rules of the game" is written by a journo you dozy twonks.
He was a journalist reporting on "Pick-up artists" but, in the process, became a famous one himself and based the book on his experiences.
For those that haven't read it, it's essentially a book of pulling techniques with some interesting social anthropology and neuro-linguistic programming thrown in. It's actually a fascinating read, even if you don't implement it's lessons.
Hate to burst any balloons but "the game" and it's sequel"rules of the game" is written by a journo you dozy twonks.
He was a journalist reporting on "Pick-up artists" but, in the process, became a famous one himself and based the book on his experiences.
For those that haven't read it, it's essentially a book of pulling techniques with some interesting social anthropology and neuro-linguistic programming thrown in. It's actually a fascinating read, even if you don't implement it's lessons.
I think it depends on how shy you are and I guess what the woman you are going for is like. I like a man to be confident but not arrogant. That doesnt mean you have to act like a complete idiot. Why not look at what she is drinking and go over and buy her a drink, be subtle but dominant at the same time.
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grow some balls. and don't be so vain. not everyone you meet will spend as much time thinking about you as you seem to think.
ZBH - has a point. Shyness is a form of arrogance if you think about it.
my m8 is knocking up 40 a great lad but very shy, tried to get him a date with a m8 of our lasses, said hes a bit shy not been out with many girls, " what good is he to me then, im not running a learner sex driver school" was the reply, the modern women huh!!!
I'm happy to act as a charisma donor if it helps.
Surely you can't "learn" these things,sure you may be able to change the way you go about them i guess but i don't think many shy individuals suddenly become unber confident swordsmen after reading a book.
Best lesson i learnt was as an 18yr old who did ok with birds but when i started clubbing etc found things a bit tricky.A mate's words "a man with a conscience in a club is a dead man" struck a chord.From one night i just "went for everything" and the roll on confience that creates it you and the birds also sense it really does work.
Sure i've had 1000's of knock backs but i've also had 100's of sh@gs so i'd say enjoy the knockbacks it's all part of the game.
Best lesson i learnt was as an 18yr old who did ok with birds but when i started clubbing etc found things a bit tricky.A mate's words "a man with a conscience in a club is a dead man" struck a chord.From one night i just "went for everything" and the roll on confience that creates it you and the birds also sense it really does work.
Sure i've had 1000's of knock backs but i've also had 100's of sh@gs so i'd say enjoy the knockbacks it's all part of the game.
on the other hand, i prefer shy women to the loud, over confident, 'oh im so gorgeous' type any day of the week.
There is a bigger percentage of women now who are actually becoming like men in respect of work, drinking, even the way they interact with each other, they just dont know their place!!
But seriously, if u lack confidence urself pick a lady whos similarly shy, well, thats if u can muster up a sentence between you...
There is a bigger percentage of women now who are actually becoming like men in respect of work, drinking, even the way they interact with each other, they just dont know their place!!
But seriously, if u lack confidence urself pick a lady whos similarly shy, well, thats if u can muster up a sentence between you...
plenty of women about who look great but have zero class. It's possible to be confident and assured without being loud and brash. Used to be called poise.
But seriously, if u lack confidence urself pick a lady whos similarly shy, well, thats if u can muster up a sentence between you...
lol, Tony
lol, Tony
ive met loads of outgoing confident losers actually. they usually work stacking shelves on minimum wage.
I am the son and the heir of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I reckon first impessions count, especially for women. I think it is a very small percentage of women who meet a man for the first time who if they don't find them physically attractive or at least intellectually challenging or interesting, or humouous, then the bloke is generally fighting a losing battle if he tries again! This isn't implying women lack the ability to reconsider, just that the instant dynamic is more important to them - lets face it most blokes take anything other than an initial "P!ss off mate, I'm not interested!" as a major positive!
its a fkin disgrace
these shymen want shooting, women are 2nd class human beings, the male has always been superior and women need put back in there place.
seriously think about it they weren't even allowed to vote 20 or so years ago.
any guys out there remember YOU are BETTER than THEM
i am a self confessed complete arrogant pr ick especially with women yet have been with umpteen women, if thats been bigheaded so what its true.
TREAT THEM MEAN AND KEEP THEM KEEN
these shymen want shooting, women are 2nd class human beings, the male has always been superior and women need put back in there place.
seriously think about it they weren't even allowed to vote 20 or so years ago.
any guys out there remember YOU are BETTER than THEM
i am a self confessed complete arrogant pr ick especially with women yet have been with umpteen women, if thats been bigheaded so what its true.
TREAT THEM MEAN AND KEEP THEM KEEN
''how many outgoing, confident, losers have you met?''
loads
loads
''how many outgoing, confident, losers have you met?''
You called???
You called???
I think it`s all in your DNA
DRD4 gene and all that?
You could always turn a negative into a positive, and look upon it as an endearing quality
These should help
The Pointer Sisters - He`s So Shy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUgxRnmuypQ
Mama Never Told Me - Sister Sledge
(can`t find it on Youtube)
DRD4 gene and all that?
You could always turn a negative into a positive, and look upon it as an endearing quality
These should help
The Pointer Sisters - He`s So Shy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUgxRnmuypQ
Mama Never Told Me - Sister Sledge
(can`t find it on Youtube)
Sadly if you're shy then you're shy for a reason more than likely because you're an ugly f*cker or have an abnormality of sorts. So it's a lose/lose situation really.
How man shy good-looking men do you see? And if there was one, you think the girl wouldn't be interested just because he was shy?
How man shy good-looking men do you see? And if there was one, you think the girl wouldn't be interested just because he was shy?
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