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JUGADOR MEJOR
01 Dec 09 22:18
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tells the owner the PIN number for that card that no one else would be able to read, not even a computer. Where do i go now or what should i do. I t could be manufactured for pennies and sold for £1 to £1.99.
Any suggestions.
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Report heed the baw • December 1, 2009 10:21 PM GMT
dragons den
Report heed the baw • December 1, 2009 10:22 PM GMT
business gateway
Report heed the baw • December 1, 2009 10:22 PM GMT
invent a winning system on x games
Report heed the baw • December 1, 2009 10:23 PM GMT
ask falcon belgium for a loan
Report everythings gone green • December 1, 2009 10:24 PM GMT
Jimmy Hill scratchy scratchy chinny chin.
Report The Leopard • December 1, 2009 10:26 PM GMT
I always write the PIN no. on the card...

no probs...
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 1, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
Serious it just popped into my head. With this device you could carry numerous credit or debit cards with different PINs and never get into trouble, as long as you put them back in the right sleeve, but that wouldn't be a hard problem to solve.
Report rustyboy • December 1, 2009 10:37 PM GMT
I'm out.
Report The Dubber • December 1, 2009 10:41 PM GMT
What's your email address, I own a ID card company.
Report The Leopard • December 1, 2009 10:46 PM GMT
Can I have 2% of your company for £100,000...?
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 1, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
Are you serious Dubber?
Report silverwasp • December 1, 2009 11:03 PM GMT
I will punt 20k in this only if Peter will match my 20k
Report curious-cat • December 1, 2009 11:08 PM GMT
http://uk.games.yahoo.com/d/zsnakeescape.html

snake escape
Report The Dubber • December 1, 2009 11:10 PM GMT
Yes.
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 12:08 AM GMT
Are you on Facebook Dubber?
Report bodil • December 2, 2009 12:11 AM GMT
A hot bath and a straight razor spring to mind. For some reason.
Report The Dubber • December 2, 2009 12:12 AM GMT
No.
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 12:12 AM GMT
WHY?
Report Klaus Kinski • December 2, 2009 12:13 AM GMT
Is it the number written backwards?
Report DIE LINKE • December 2, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
the pin for my credit cards is always 1111 and for that reason arm oot
Report bodil • December 2, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
Beats me. I have no control over my subconscious. It's often right.
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 12:26 AM GMT
Dubber i would like to discuss this with a serious person like
yourself, however if i post my e-mail on here every nutter would be sending me dodgy mails. Any other ideas?
Report Joe Jordan • December 2, 2009 12:28 AM GMT
dont e mail yourself ?
Report bodil • December 2, 2009 12:29 AM GMT
Who were you, formerly, Jugador?
Report themover • December 2, 2009 12:29 AM GMT
I've lost my card holder sleeve so I'm out
Report The Dubber • December 2, 2009 12:40 AM GMT
Can you not give me any details on here?
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 12:42 AM GMT
What details?
Report Tevez is God • December 2, 2009 12:52 AM GMT
why wouldn't the owner know the pin number imo?
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 12:58 AM GMT
Some people who have many cards do forget their PIN, or people with new cards or some with only one. This device would help in times of need.
Report Journeyman • December 2, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
If somebody is organised enough to put cards back in the exact sleeves of the holder,
they are probably organised enough to remember their PINs?

Not being critical just a thought
Report club20 • December 2, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
nice fiching ... got a bumper net full
Carry on regardless
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
I have thought about its other applications and i believe this simple idea could have the potential to make millions. It could be adapted to tell people their passwords on websites that no one else would be able to read.
Report club20 • December 2, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
fishing even
Report The Dubber • December 2, 2009 1:02 AM GMT
Use this email
bk_keating@msn.com
Report club20 • December 2, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
hooked a whale

Classic
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:05 AM GMT
Journeyman, the sleeve could be printed or colour coded with the card that goes into it.
By the way all your friends are waiting for you to tell them the name of the a something e film on the other thread.
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
club20, this is not a wind up.
Report club20 • December 2, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
a few more spods of crushed hemp fished overr the method feeder should reel `em in
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:19 AM GMT
I wish you'd jump off the hook and Phish off.
Report luddite • December 2, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
So, if the holder together with credit cards is stolen, you gift the thief all your pin numbers. Nice one.
Report Journeyman • December 2, 2009 1:38 AM GMT
Well not if his original post was an accurate description.

Nobody ever reads the original post on these threads they just start blindly calling everything a fishing trip.
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
Luddite, thats the beauty of it, it is impossible for anyone else to tell what your PIN is even if they have the card and the sleeve/holder.
Report bodil • December 2, 2009 1:42 AM GMT
Insane killer bees should devour all on this thread.
Report Journeyman • December 2, 2009 1:44 AM GMT
I like that Bodil. A nice strong visual. :)
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:47 AM GMT
There are no more bees according to Dr. Who :D
Report club20 • December 2, 2009 1:49 AM GMT
Journeyman 02 Dec 02:38
Well not if his original post was an accurate description.

Nobody ever reads the original post on these threads they just start blindly calling everything a fishing trip.

I suspect you have to detach your eyeball and keep it attached to your wallet for retina recognition in this case
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 2:02 AM GMT
It is such a simple idea that i thought of it :(
Report slipperynipple • December 2, 2009 9:21 AM GMT
Off topic a bit, but it seems to me that it should be quite simple to get a card reader and write a program to crack the PIN - there are only 10,000 possibilities which is negligible for a computer.

This occurred to me when watching the wife using her little natwest calculator for online banking, until then I thought the PIN was queried with the bank but obviously its encoded on the card somehow.

If I could get hold of stolen credit cards I'd probably have a crack at it but as my contact with the criminal underworld is limited I shall have to give it a miss.
Report slipperynipple • December 2, 2009 9:24 AM GMT
Oh, does your idea work by coming up with one unique number/word that you memorise and then use this to code each PIN number? i.e. your unique number is 1234 and the PIN is 3625 so you could write 4859 on the sleeve...?
Report Joe Jordan • December 2, 2009 10:16 AM GMT
slipperynipple 02 Dec 10:21
If I could get hold of stolen credit cards I'd probably have a crack at it but as my contact with the criminal underworld is limited I shall have to give it a miss.
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my e mail is
HarrytheHatchet@ontherun.com
Report SHAPESHIFTER • December 2, 2009 10:25 AM GMT
If the holders are thin enough to keep in your pocket instead of your wallet, it might work. But otherwise, if my wallet is stolen, people would have my pins.

Don't try selling it to the public. Get a card company to license it and give it to all their clients.
Report JUGADOR MEJOR • December 2, 2009 1:17 PM GMT
slipperynipple 02 Dec 10:24
Oh, does your idea work by coming up with one unique number/word that you memorise and then use this to code each PIN number? i.e. your unique number is 1234 and the PIN is 3625 so you could write 4859 on the sleeve...?


No, no, no that would involve people doing maths, which is work that someone in a hurry wouldn't want to do.
Also involves remembering the unique number so why wouldn't they just remember the PIN in the first place.
Sorry you are way off track.
Report Crisp77 • December 2, 2009 1:25 PM GMT
Seen this before with some kind of grid....it didn't get far.
Report Crisp77 • December 2, 2009 1:27 PM GMT
Maybe it did get far?

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