New Posts For Thread: Excess Deaths In England & Waleshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-walesThe first COVID-19 related death was registered during Week 11, thus no COVID deaths in weeks 1 to 10.During this ten week period, 121,960 deaths were registered. This was 4,708 lower than the average number for the preceding five years.For the folloShocking stuff - 64,000 excess deaths of which 52,000 are COVID related (which doesn't necessarily mean they died of COVID) so a minimum of 12,000 unexplained excess deaths ?Wonder what spin the statisticians of both sides will put on these numbers ?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559461865#559461865Shocking stuff - 64,000 excess deaths of which 52,000 are COVID related (which doesn't necessarily mean they died of COVID) so a minimum of 12,000 unexplained excess deaths ?Wonder what spin the statisticians of both sides will put on these numbers ?Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:03:04 -0500Latest figures released today for England and Wales, data now available for the first week in June for all four home nationshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559458769#559458769Latest figures released today for England and Wales, data now available for the first week in June for all four home nationsTue, 16 Jun 2020 06:00:09 -0500Sharp increase in dementia deaths is hardly surprising for many reasons and not necessarily as a direct result of covid. Large proportion of dementia sufferers are in specialist dementia care homes - now the family is not allowed to visit for monthshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559406197#559406197Sharp increase in dementia deaths is hardly surprising for many reasons and not necessarily as a direct result of covid. Large proportion of dementia sufferers are in specialist dementia care homes - now the family is not allowed to visit for monthsFri, 05 Jun 2020 10:34:23 -0500Hard to imagine that the withdrawal of treatment and screening services has not had a detrimental effect on current and future health outcomes.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559406193#559406193Hard to imagine that the withdrawal of treatment and screening services has not had a detrimental effect on current and future health outcomes.Fri, 05 Jun 2020 10:33:46 -0500I'm certain that clearing the whole nation's hospitals has cost us. Three hospitals in our trust been doing very little for months, almost empty. Imagine the number of people who should have been through their doors in that time.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559405993#559405993I'm certain that clearing the whole nation's hospitals has cost us. Three hospitals in our trust been doing very little for months, almost empty. Imagine the number of people who should have been through their doors in that time.Fri, 05 Jun 2020 10:09:01 -0500Report released by ONS and available at the following :https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/analysisofdeathregistrationsnotinvolvingcoronaviruscovid19englandandwales28december2019to1may2020/techhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559404695#559404695Report released by ONS and available at the following :https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/analysisofdeathregistrationsnotinvolvingcoronaviruscovid19englandandwales28december2019to1may2020/techFri, 05 Jun 2020 07:19:15 -0500Thanks for the summary Angoose.You can also see a large decrease in the figure of non-COVID deaths in hospitals for this period of 11,976.Will be interesting to see what the ONS have to say on the non-COVID deaths this Friday.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559393959#559393959Thanks for the summary Angoose.You can also see a large decrease in the figure of non-COVID deaths in hospitals for this period of 11,976.Will be interesting to see what the ONS have to say on the non-COVID deaths this Friday.Wed, 03 Jun 2020 06:04:05 -0500Blaming Covid is a much easier sell than admitting care home residents died from lack of access to NHS services during the lockdown when the hospitals stood empty.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559393621#559393621Blaming Covid is a much easier sell than admitting care home residents died from lack of access to NHS services during the lockdown when the hospitals stood empty.Wed, 03 Jun 2020 04:12:21 -0500I haven't been keeping up with this subject, so apologies if this has already been said, but as the reporting of Covid deaths are clearly unreliable, and, as Covid has undoubtedly led to thousands of other deaths, e.g. by people's treatment for cancehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559393579#559393579I haven't been keeping up with this subject, so apologies if this has already been said, but as the reporting of Covid deaths are clearly unreliable, and, as Covid has undoubtedly led to thousands of other deaths, e.g. by people's treatment for canceWed, 03 Jun 2020 03:57:48 -0500The only thing I can think of - Is it better politically to have higher COVID related death numbers but lower unexplained excess death numbers ?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31649021/excess-deaths-in-england-wales?post_id=559392195#559392195The only thing I can think of - Is it better politically to have higher COVID related death numbers but lower unexplained excess death numbers ?Tue, 02 Jun 2020 14:22:06 -0500