New Posts For Thread: ** FINALLY - ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS BY UNDERLYING CONDITION PUBLISHED **https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-publishedFollowing my request to NHS England yesterday they started publishing hospital deaths by underlying conditions.Remember that have not got the data on everything for every condition yetBut this is what they have just put out...Remember people can haveI do hope the scientists are not being blinded by borisAnd his pals as suggested.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559345023#559345023I do hope the scientists are not being blinded by borisAnd his pals as suggested.Fri, 22 May 2020 10:38:50 -0500GoBallistic,Yup, a search of the government website for easy to read tests against infections is hard to find.Indeed, the way the same website splits tests between labs and elsewhere leads to confusuion.I do hope that the PM and his pals are not beinhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344585#559344585GoBallistic,Yup, a search of the government website for easy to read tests against infections is hard to find.Indeed, the way the same website splits tests between labs and elsewhere leads to confusuion.I do hope that the PM and his pals are not beinFri, 22 May 2020 09:00:47 -0500The R number includes care home infections and is around 3 weeks old when given out.Hence, it has been distorted very badly in last 3 weeks because if you go back 3 to 4 weeks the virus was at its worse in care homes. The trend is nursing home infecthttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344555#559344555The R number includes care home infections and is around 3 weeks old when given out.Hence, it has been distorted very badly in last 3 weeks because if you go back 3 to 4 weeks the virus was at its worse in care homes. The trend is nursing home infectFri, 22 May 2020 08:58:11 -0500on a lighter note 2 that made me chucklebe glad when pubs reopen so I can drink less, ,worrying in a world pandemic when you see more of Robbie savage than the prime ministerhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344517#559344517on a lighter note 2 that made me chucklebe glad when pubs reopen so I can drink less, ,worrying in a world pandemic when you see more of Robbie savage than the prime ministerFri, 22 May 2020 08:50:23 -0500The R number and the number of new cases are irrelevant figures.R is impossible to measure with any degree of accuracy given that we have no idea on the number of new cases unless we test large random samples on a regular basis.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344495#559344495The R number and the number of new cases are irrelevant figures.R is impossible to measure with any degree of accuracy given that we have no idea on the number of new cases unless we test large random samples on a regular basis.Fri, 22 May 2020 08:43:43 -0500The R number they quote is going to be based on the random sampling they started doing a few weeks ago. That sampling should give a decent estimate of the % of population that has covid at any one time (it was 1 in 400 I remember seeing) and then thhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344153#559344153The R number they quote is going to be based on the random sampling they started doing a few weeks ago. That sampling should give a decent estimate of the % of population that has covid at any one time (it was 1 in 400 I remember seeing) and then thFri, 22 May 2020 07:33:17 -0500I hope they are not using total new cases as a means for planning.They are, as you suggest, subject to new testing conditions.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344095#559344095I hope they are not using total new cases as a means for planning.They are, as you suggest, subject to new testing conditions.Fri, 22 May 2020 07:15:07 -0500The most recent slides I could find are from a few days ago.https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/885918/2020-05-18_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides_-_for_publication__1_.pdfThe only rolling ahttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559344015#559344015The most recent slides I could find are from a few days ago.https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/885918/2020-05-18_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides_-_for_publication__1_.pdfThe only rolling aFri, 22 May 2020 06:59:02 -0500All these figures but I cannot see why more people are not questioning the way the daily figure associated with the 'new infections' is being questioned.Surely, the more tests carried out the more the number of cases?Hence, should not the daily figurhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559343869#559343869All these figures but I cannot see why more people are not questioning the way the daily figure associated with the 'new infections' is being questioned.Surely, the more tests carried out the more the number of cases?Hence, should not the daily figurFri, 22 May 2020 06:28:44 -050009Joined: 25 Aug 05 | Topic/replies: 12,218 | Blogger: InsiderTrader's blogOnly been noting from Ischaemic Heart Disease since May 1stFrom the date the measure was introduced 10% of deaths had Ischaemic Heart Disease.These are the percentages of deathttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31646443/finally---england-hospital-deaths-by-underlying-condition-published?post_id=559343717#55934371709Joined: 25 Aug 05 | Topic/replies: 12,218 | Blogger: InsiderTrader's blogOnly been noting from Ischaemic Heart Disease since May 1stFrom the date the measure was introduced 10% of deaths had Ischaemic Heart Disease.These are the percentages of deatFri, 22 May 2020 05:29:09 -0500