New Posts For Thread: Flat sires whose strike rate is...https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is...better in Group races than non.What's going on there?Much smaller samples in the pattern races statsBated breath had a good year with the group races last year was previously 1-30 but this went to 8-53 last year.259-2109 in non major racesPaco Boy 11-55 in pattern races if you take out the best 2 horsehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559271191#559271191Much smaller samples in the pattern races statsBated breath had a good year with the group races last year was previously 1-30 but this went to 8-53 last year.259-2109 in non major racesPaco Boy 11-55 in pattern races if you take out the best 2 horseMon, 04 May 2020 09:46:17 -0500Don't mention Paco Bloody Boy to me I got a "hot tip", allegedly straight from the stable, for his tilt at the Dubai Duty Free.Slow out of the gate, I could have walked from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and back again before he made it to the finish linehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559271159#559271159Don't mention Paco Bloody Boy to me I got a "hot tip", allegedly straight from the stable, for his tilt at the Dubai Duty Free.Slow out of the gate, I could have walked from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and back again before he made it to the finish lineMon, 04 May 2020 09:38:37 -0500I monitor around 100 sires. Of these, there are about 12 whose s/r is better in Group races than overall (ie incl Group races).This doesn't include those sires who have had fewer than 30 runs.I don't have the stats for all races below Group level buthttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559271085#559271085I monitor around 100 sires. Of these, there are about 12 whose s/r is better in Group races than overall (ie incl Group races).This doesn't include those sires who have had fewer than 30 runs.I don't have the stats for all races below Group level butMon, 04 May 2020 09:21:19 -0500Do you have any specific examples ?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559270885#559270885Do you have any specific examples ?Mon, 04 May 2020 08:42:32 -0500Interesting. Thank you.I respect your views and experience so just playing devil's advocate... I doubt many horses make money for their owners especially after taking into account training fees and other expenses.If someone pays big money for horse ahttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559270845#559270845Interesting. Thank you.I respect your views and experience so just playing devil's advocate... I doubt many horses make money for their owners especially after taking into account training fees and other expenses.If someone pays big money for horse aMon, 04 May 2020 08:38:29 -0500Hmm. Well, if we're talking second-division stallions, then only their most outstanding foals are going to run in Group races. With the most expensive stallions, on the other hand, their progeny have to be targeted at Group races, even if they're nothttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559270113#559270113Hmm. Well, if we're talking second-division stallions, then only their most outstanding foals are going to run in Group races. With the most expensive stallions, on the other hand, their progeny have to be targeted at Group races, even if they're notMon, 04 May 2020 05:17:51 -0500Yes, that could be it. I'll have to look a little closer though - the stallions in question usually aren't usually aren't the top ones.Don't forget, some sires will have excellent strike rates in Group races but even better in non.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559269415#559269415Yes, that could be it. I'll have to look a little closer though - the stallions in question usually aren't usually aren't the top ones.Don't forget, some sires will have excellent strike rates in Group races but even better in non.Sun, 03 May 2020 18:02:40 -0500Smaller fields in Group races? Just a small pool of the same stallions competing against each other. Also, the progeny of top stallions which end up in handicaps and sellers are inevitably the poorer ones. Otherwise they wouldn't be running in thosehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559269165#559269165Smaller fields in Group races? Just a small pool of the same stallions competing against each other. Also, the progeny of top stallions which end up in handicaps and sellers are inevitably the poorer ones. Otherwise they wouldn't be running in thoseSun, 03 May 2020 17:19:29 -0500Dunno but on chit chat it's normally the fault of guardian readers or immigrantshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559268109#559268109Dunno but on chit chat it's normally the fault of guardian readers or immigrantsSun, 03 May 2020 13:33:57 -0500...better in Group races than non.What's going on there?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31645061/flat-sires-whose-strike-rate-is?post_id=559267729#559267729...better in Group races than non.What's going on there?Sun, 03 May 2020 12:17:57 -0500