New Posts For Thread: The effort to deselect Dominic Grievehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieveIs there any update on this? Strange how there is little news about it. I know there was supposed to be a confidence vote in his constituency this evening but I can't find any news about it.Thanks.Right that's me out of my poker tourney so bedtime. Goodnight.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913263#556913263Right that's me out of my poker tourney so bedtime. Goodnight.Fri, 29 Mar 2019 21:09:11 -0500In saying mission impossible I mean for May.Although people are quick to have a go at Cameron I think he'd have done a better job than May.As regards the Labour back benchers I think the saddest thing I've ever heard was that in the light of Mays spehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913259#556913259In saying mission impossible I mean for May.Although people are quick to have a go at Cameron I think he'd have done a better job than May.As regards the Labour back benchers I think the saddest thing I've ever heard was that in the light of Mays speFri, 29 Mar 2019 21:07:09 -0500If you want to see how easy these things are to infiltrate btw and why such a dangerous precedent will be set is apparently there was 60-70 in attendance last year, and you just had a vote done by like 314. It's really dangerous if most those are newhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913257#556913257If you want to see how easy these things are to infiltrate btw and why such a dangerous precedent will be set is apparently there was 60-70 in attendance last year, and you just had a vote done by like 314. It's really dangerous if most those are newFri, 29 Mar 2019 21:06:35 -0500While yes, it would have worked much better than what was happened which has been an out and out shambles. There's barely been a plan A let and out a plan B, and just think without that ruling May would have just been able to impose this rubbish on uhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913233#556913233While yes, it would have worked much better than what was happened which has been an out and out shambles. There's barely been a plan A let and out a plan B, and just think without that ruling May would have just been able to impose this rubbish on uFri, 29 Mar 2019 20:53:50 -0500Our position should have been defined but the problem of going through parliament as such meant we'd need to have shown our hand too early.May contrary to whats been said on here spoke to the party leaders and the leaders of the devolved parliaments/https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913203#556913203Our position should have been defined but the problem of going through parliament as such meant we'd need to have shown our hand too early.May contrary to whats been said on here spoke to the party leaders and the leaders of the devolved parliaments/Fri, 29 Mar 2019 20:46:25 -0500Basically it should have been accepted very early on that Brexit itself transcended the party, neither of the main parties ran to leave and neither fully agreed on it, to get a working consensus you need to work cross party to make it happen. It washttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913175#556913175Basically it should have been accepted very early on that Brexit itself transcended the party, neither of the main parties ran to leave and neither fully agreed on it, to get a working consensus you need to work cross party to make it happen. It wasFri, 29 Mar 2019 20:32:17 -0500There are plenty of Labour leave MPs/who now want to leave, you only need too look at those who voted against a 2nd ref the other day. Yet hardly any of those are supporting May's deal either, because that's not what they ran on either.The 2 partieshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913171#556913171There are plenty of Labour leave MPs/who now want to leave, you only need too look at those who voted against a 2nd ref the other day. Yet hardly any of those are supporting May's deal either, because that's not what they ran on either.The 2 partiesFri, 29 Mar 2019 20:29:41 -0500Yes but they stood on different brands of leave didn't they, that's the problem of leave being divided for one reason or another. As was Labour were purposely vague on Brexit during the GE, it's talked in hindsight like it was a Brexit election but ihttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913167#556913167Yes but they stood on different brands of leave didn't they, that's the problem of leave being divided for one reason or another. As was Labour were purposely vague on Brexit during the GE, it's talked in hindsight like it was a Brexit election but iFri, 29 Mar 2019 20:27:34 -0500You constantly talk purely about the Tories and Brexit when in fact the whole of parliament was charged with getting us out of the EU.In fact Labour stood on a similar manifesto to the Tories in that respect at the 2017 elections.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913153#556913153You constantly talk purely about the Tories and Brexit when in fact the whole of parliament was charged with getting us out of the EU.In fact Labour stood on a similar manifesto to the Tories in that respect at the 2017 elections.Fri, 29 Mar 2019 20:23:07 -0500I think the last part is tricky. Problem is the country is like the MPs divided on Brexit.That's where May not seeking the cross party consensus from the off was the failed policy, she made Conservatives the Brexit party and it all about them, but ithttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31517289/the-effort-to-deselect-dominic-grieve?post_id=556913127#556913127I think the last part is tricky. Problem is the country is like the MPs divided on Brexit.That's where May not seeking the cross party consensus from the off was the failed policy, she made Conservatives the Brexit party and it all about them, but itFri, 29 Mar 2019 20:12:28 -0500