New Posts For Thread: Ireland putting it's toes in th waterhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-waterCoveney quoted in The Guardian:MPs who are planning to vote against Theresa May’s deal need to stop their “wishful thinking” that the EU will re-open Brexit negotiations, the Irish deputy prime minister has said in a hard-hitting speech in DublYes,at which a hard border should have been "threatened" in Sept, negotiations are just that say anything thing really and if the other side is dopey enough to agree job done. The "complete pants" down though gives rise to cynical thinking indeed.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356997#556356997Yes,at which a hard border should have been "threatened" in Sept, negotiations are just that say anything thing really and if the other side is dopey enough to agree job done. The "complete pants" down though gives rise to cynical thinking indeed.Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:03:11 -0600Ireland owes the UK tens of millions,they will need to borrow millions more from the EUif there is no deal.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356967#556356967Ireland owes the UK tens of millions,they will need to borrow millions more from the EUif there is no deal.Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:01:01 -0600The UK doesn't want a hard border, it isn't necessary considering the piffling amount crossing the Irish border. The EU has said they won't implement a hard border either so why the back-stop? It's political and the Irish Government and the EU both whttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356893#556356893The UK doesn't want a hard border, it isn't necessary considering the piffling amount crossing the Irish border. The EU has said they won't implement a hard border either so why the back-stop? It's political and the Irish Government and the EU both wTue, 08 Jan 2019 11:54:49 -0600I think the EU believed May when she told them she could get it through Parliament hence the jitters now that they see she probably can't. Varadkar has been talking the Germans hoping for massive aid if we actually leave the single market and customshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356745#556356745I think the EU believed May when she told them she could get it through Parliament hence the jitters now that they see she probably can't. Varadkar has been talking the Germans hoping for massive aid if we actually leave the single market and customsTue, 08 Jan 2019 11:43:22 -0600I agree Foinavon,you had imo a great option of insisting on a hard border due to the poor deal and despite the GFA during the negotiations, a bluff maybe but it would have given leverage in said negotiations at the time.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356725#556356725I agree Foinavon,you had imo a great option of insisting on a hard border due to the poor deal and despite the GFA during the negotiations, a bluff maybe but it would have given leverage in said negotiations at the time.Tue, 08 Jan 2019 11:42:19 -0600My son is convinced that TM is playing us like a fiddle.Can't get my head around her thinking this deal would be acceptable but maybe she knew that. Who knows what her end game is.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356679#556356679My son is convinced that TM is playing us like a fiddle.Can't get my head around her thinking this deal would be acceptable but maybe she knew that. Who knows what her end game is.Tue, 08 Jan 2019 11:37:23 -0600I don't dispute that the so called negotiations have been badly handled on the UK side pa lapsy, I also think they have been cynically handled by the civil servants appointed by the Remainer PM over the heads David Davies and his department. It doesnhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356643#556356643I don't dispute that the so called negotiations have been badly handled on the UK side pa lapsy, I also think they have been cynically handled by the civil servants appointed by the Remainer PM over the heads David Davies and his department. It doesnTue, 08 Jan 2019 11:33:41 -0600That’s fine , there seems to be no reason why they should be allowed the freedoms to live and work in Britain now is there ?Why not clear off, that’s finehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356537#556356537That’s fine , there seems to be no reason why they should be allowed the freedoms to live and work in Britain now is there ?Why not clear off, that’s fineTue, 08 Jan 2019 11:25:12 -0600%age wise more in the ROI sat out than did in the UK and NI. Anyway that wasn't the point of my posts, maybe you could address them.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356533#556356533%age wise more in the ROI sat out than did in the UK and NI. Anyway that wasn't the point of my posts, maybe you could address them.Tue, 08 Jan 2019 11:25:06 -0600ha ha -ye attempt to re write history - Ireland was neutral - hope this helpshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31494029/ireland-putting-its-toes-in-th-water?post_id=556356523#556356523ha ha -ye attempt to re write history - Ireland was neutral - hope this helpsTue, 08 Jan 2019 11:24:26 -0600