New Posts For Thread: Phil Ivey loses £7.7m court battlehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle.https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/oct/25/poker-player-phil-ivey-loses-court-battle-over-77m-winnings-from-london-casino.Poker player loses court battle over £7.7m winnings from London casinoAmerican Phil Ivey sued over baccarat game after ownersThe casino seems a bit gullible if the facts presented are true? "You must use this pack of cards" "I'm superstitious so you must rotate cards I tell you to"."card counting" where you are passive and observing is a type of skill using the face valuehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553016577#553016577The casino seems a bit gullible if the facts presented are true? "You must use this pack of cards" "I'm superstitious so you must rotate cards I tell you to"."card counting" where you are passive and observing is a type of skill using the face valueThu, 26 Oct 2017 11:37:15 -0500Correct decision by the court in my opinion. I have a very low opinion of Ivey after this incident.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553016375#553016375Correct decision by the court in my opinion. I have a very low opinion of Ivey after this incident.Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:11:02 -0500i read that david pannick qc charged £400k for a two daytrial he did not attend, obviously plenty of prep!https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015473#553015473i read that david pannick qc charged £400k for a two daytrial he did not attend, obviously plenty of prep!Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:39:15 -0500must be gynormous xmoneyx. There are rumours that Ivey's costs were underwritten by a backer who would have got a big slice of the £7m had he won.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015447#553015447must be gynormous xmoneyx. There are rumours that Ivey's costs were underwritten by a backer who would have got a big slice of the £7m had he won.Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:31:12 -0500what are his court cost So?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015437#553015437what are his court cost So?Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:24:13 -0500i dont think you can accuse him of that without proof, but i think it safe to assumethat some will be wise to simple ruseshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015435#553015435i dont think you can accuse him of that without proof, but i think it safe to assumethat some will be wise to simple rusesThu, 26 Oct 2017 07:23:48 -0500with all the planning,milking of the croupier,stake planning ,using a friend at the table etc,is it fair to suggest that his millions of pounds worth of poker wins will have used similar bending of the spirit of the game [ cheating ]https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015427#553015427with all the planning,milking of the croupier,stake planning ,using a friend at the table etc,is it fair to suggest that his millions of pounds worth of poker wins will have used similar bending of the spirit of the game [ cheating ]Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:21:31 -0500yeah, marked cards, but fresh out the wrapper, and yeah there are plenty of other ways to cheat or attempt to.anyway interesting to see how the law progresses after this casehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015421#553015421yeah, marked cards, but fresh out the wrapper, and yeah there are plenty of other ways to cheat or attempt to.anyway interesting to see how the law progresses after this caseThu, 26 Oct 2017 07:18:24 -0500you,d think with all the money involved some loon would have a made a fortune by suggesting using plain white backs to cardshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015417#553015417you,d think with all the money involved some loon would have a made a fortune by suggesting using plain white backs to cardsThu, 26 Oct 2017 07:16:22 -0500They can try what they like but other players and the dealer will always mess up the deck. It simply isn't a practical method of cheating given the other options available if you are inclined to cheat.i came across a deck of cards where i could tellhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30956263/phil-ivey-loses-77m-court-battle?post_id=553015399#553015399They can try what they like but other players and the dealer will always mess up the deck. It simply isn't a practical method of cheating given the other options available if you are inclined to cheat.i came across a deck of cards where i could tellThu, 26 Oct 2017 07:12:09 -0500