New Posts For Thread: Peter Jones On Dragons Den..https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-denOne arrogant mother fukker.Peter Jones - one smart phucker ...8 Mar 2009 - Dragons' Den star Peter Jones has been caught up in a VAT clampdown by tax authorities. ... The tough-talking entrepreneur, who gave business advice to Gordon Brown four months ago, has faced big delayhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552706689#552706689Peter Jones - one smart phucker ...8 Mar 2009 - Dragons' Den star Peter Jones has been caught up in a VAT clampdown by tax authorities. ... The tough-talking entrepreneur, who gave business advice to Gordon Brown four months ago, has faced big delayWed, 30 Aug 2017 05:36:24 -0500maleuk was pointing out what the guy was valuing his business at, which was £600k, and which was correct. Whether the business was worth investing £600k in is another thing entirelyhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552696953#552696953maleuk was pointing out what the guy was valuing his business at, which was £600k, and which was correct. Whether the business was worth investing £600k in is another thing entirelyMon, 28 Aug 2017 16:46:54 -0500Sorry to be a bear with a sore thumb but I agree with Dr C.A capital injection into a business with no public accountability, without the grandeur, trading history or customer base of a Ladbrokes, could very quickly go down the pan. So I can't see hohttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552688089#552688089Sorry to be a bear with a sore thumb but I agree with Dr C.A capital injection into a business with no public accountability, without the grandeur, trading history or customer base of a Ladbrokes, could very quickly go down the pan. So I can't see hoSun, 27 Aug 2017 14:58:05 -0500The example here is not a listed company, and it's not capitalised on the value of it's shares.So the claim of doubling its value by the investment is not valid along those lines.The value of a tiny business can be estimated on far more tangible thinhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552677837#552677837The example here is not a listed company, and it's not capitalised on the value of it's shares.So the claim of doubling its value by the investment is not valid along those lines.The value of a tiny business can be estimated on far more tangible thinSat, 26 Aug 2017 12:47:38 -0500If you removed the intangibles from most FTSE companies they would be technically insolvent.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552677413#552677413If you removed the intangibles from most FTSE companies they would be technically insolvent.Sat, 26 Aug 2017 12:04:27 -0500I seem to have a vague recollection that in the not too distant past that someone was making the case that either Labrokes/Corals/WilliamHill, forget which, were insolvent in that their loan liabilities exceeded their tangible assets. The valuationhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552673841#552673841I seem to have a vague recollection that in the not too distant past that someone was making the case that either Labrokes/Corals/WilliamHill, forget which, were insolvent in that their loan liabilities exceeded their tangible assets. The valuationSat, 26 Aug 2017 04:43:54 -0500At least double the value. If they were asking for an extra £600k (say in a rights issue) the premis would be that the £600k invested would be worth more invested in the business than sitting in the bank earning interest. If the business had no ghttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552673755#552673755At least double the value. If they were asking for an extra £600k (say in a rights issue) the premis would be that the £600k invested would be worth more invested in the business than sitting in the bank earning interest. If the business had no gSat, 26 Aug 2017 04:24:03 -0500If in the £600k example the bloke was going to walk away with the £600k in exchange for 50% of the business then it would be valued at £1.2million. That is how FTSE companies are valued and when you sell your shares you take the proceeds.So priorhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552672311#552672311If in the £600k example the bloke was going to walk away with the £600k in exchange for 50% of the business then it would be valued at £1.2million. That is how FTSE companies are valued and when you sell your shares you take the proceeds.So priorFri, 25 Aug 2017 18:48:07 -0500not in money tree creative accountinghttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552645287#552645287not in money tree creative accountingTue, 22 Aug 2017 16:31:23 -0500Wasn't on about Ciders last example.I would have thought that investing £600k for a return from £300k is poor business in anyone's book.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30930241/peter-jones-on-dragons-den?post_id=552644875#552644875Wasn't on about Ciders last example.I would have thought that investing £600k for a return from £300k is poor business in anyone's book.Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:39:53 -0500