New Posts For Thread: Ched Evanshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evansGood luck to him in the re-trial. An absolute disgrace that he was convicted in the first place, given that the woman could not remember anything. 30 months inside! Good to see that Chesterfield have given him a chance. Well done to them.True, Rob, but usually it means the same thing doesn't it?No. You'll be acquitted if it can't be proven beyond reasonable doubt that you are guilty, but it's not a defence.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102599#550102599True, Rob, but usually it means the same thing doesn't it?No. You'll be acquitted if it can't be proven beyond reasonable doubt that you are guilty, but it's not a defence.Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:51:20 -0500It's the standard of proof. The balance of probability is the standard of proof in civil cases.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102585#550102585It's the standard of proof. The balance of probability is the standard of proof in civil cases.Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:48:31 -0500Reasonable doubt isn't a defence Annie and the law does not state that. Beyond reasonable doubt is the balance of proof required in a criminal case for someone to be convicted. If you think that in this particular case that there was reasonable doubthttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102573#550102573Reasonable doubt isn't a defence Annie and the law does not state that. Beyond reasonable doubt is the balance of proof required in a criminal case for someone to be convicted. If you think that in this particular case that there was reasonable doubtThu, 06 Oct 2016 17:45:17 -0500True, Rob, but usually it means the same thing doesn't it?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102509#550102509True, Rob, but usually it means the same thing doesn't it?Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:28:54 -0500Reasonable doubt isn't a defence. It's the standard of proof required for a successful prosecution.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102491#550102491Reasonable doubt isn't a defence. It's the standard of proof required for a successful prosecution.Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:18:14 -0500But most importantly, they need to do so beyond reasonable doubt, which is normally given as 95% certainty. Is it? I thought it was around 99%, with case law indicating that a jury must be 'virtually certain'.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102471#550102471But most importantly, they need to do so beyond reasonable doubt, which is normally given as 95% certainty. Is it? I thought it was around 99%, with case law indicating that a jury must be 'virtually certain'.Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:16:17 -0500How any 'reasonable' person could have absolutely no doubt at all about the conviction of ched evans when the victim herself cannot remember what happened and did not complain about it in the first place beggars belief. She only went to the police ahttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550102363#550102363How any 'reasonable' person could have absolutely no doubt at all about the conviction of ched evans when the victim herself cannot remember what happened and did not complain about it in the first place beggars belief. She only went to the police aThu, 06 Oct 2016 16:45:25 -0500unconscious drunk would be rape of coursehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550094009#550094009unconscious drunk would be rape of courseWed, 05 Oct 2016 07:39:59 -0500if a man woke up after a night on the drink and found his tipsy friendhad taken advantage of his state the issue of consent may be taken somewhatdifferently. That would not be possible with me or indeed most menI would have to be unconscious drunk fohttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550093999#550093999if a man woke up after a night on the drink and found his tipsy friendhad taken advantage of his state the issue of consent may be taken somewhatdifferently. That would not be possible with me or indeed most menI would have to be unconscious drunk foWed, 05 Oct 2016 07:38:29 -0500the whole point is that Evans and McDonald both claimed she verbally consented to have sex with both of them. and I believe them, so no rapeI do not think being drunk takes away our ability to make decisionsor that anything happened this women did nohttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30740031/ched-evans?post_id=550093979#550093979the whole point is that Evans and McDonald both claimed she verbally consented to have sex with both of them. and I believe them, so no rapeI do not think being drunk takes away our ability to make decisionsor that anything happened this women did noWed, 05 Oct 2016 07:35:05 -0500