New Posts For Thread: Ken Livingstone summarises history on BBC news channelhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel1. 1945, year he was born Britain, everything was getting better because of Labour2. Thatcher came in and things became "pretty grim".Has he not missed out an important bit, that period of history before Thatcher came in, where Labour and the unions"The unions are ruIning the country"Corrected for you Alias. Strikes, poor management and poor strategic government decisions hollowed out our industrial base post war. To refuse to look at the mess unions helped create is lunacy.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546203183#546203183"The unions are ruIning the country"Corrected for you Alias. Strikes, poor management and poor strategic government decisions hollowed out our industrial base post war. To refuse to look at the mess unions helped create is lunacy.Sun, 13 Sep 2015 07:16:38 -0500To many Daily Mail reading dupes on this forum. "The unions are running the country".IF that was the case, why were there so many strikes? Studyform is correct, spot on.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546202961#546202961To many Daily Mail reading dupes on this forum. "The unions are running the country".IF that was the case, why were there so many strikes? Studyform is correct, spot on.Sun, 13 Sep 2015 06:52:40 -0500At least if you bunged the ticket collector two bob he'd bin it and say nowt Many brothers at the time wanted their vested interests as well..like you say "turkeys voting for xmas"there are still people who'd rather have no responsibility and juhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546199311#546199311At least if you bunged the ticket collector two bob he'd bin it and say nowt Many brothers at the time wanted their vested interests as well..like you say "turkeys voting for xmas"there are still people who'd rather have no responsibility and juSat, 12 Sep 2015 17:28:14 -0500Makes me smile when the likes of corbyn propose renationalising the railways,do they not remember the shambles the service was when it was under govt ownership before.Staff couldnt give a **** & were constantly on strike,stock was decrepit because inhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546199269#546199269Makes me smile when the likes of corbyn propose renationalising the railways,do they not remember the shambles the service was when it was under govt ownership before.Staff couldnt give a **** & were constantly on strike,stock was decrepit because inSat, 12 Sep 2015 17:24:14 -0500There was (and still is), SO much more going on.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546198953#546198953There was (and still is), SO much more going on.Sat, 12 Sep 2015 17:00:11 -0500Wasn't very bright then for the "Labour unions" to bring down a Labour government was it?No matter how it's dressed up in hindsight, the last thing they'd have wanted was a Tory government.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546198945#546198945Wasn't very bright then for the "Labour unions" to bring down a Labour government was it?No matter how it's dressed up in hindsight, the last thing they'd have wanted was a Tory government.Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:59:34 -0500James Callaghan was getting inflation down in 78, whatever you say, it was the brothers who brought him down...The unions rejected the Bullock report, which would have forced firms to take representation from the workers onto the board, German Style.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546198821#546198821James Callaghan was getting inflation down in 78, whatever you say, it was the brothers who brought him down...The unions rejected the Bullock report, which would have forced firms to take representation from the workers onto the board, German Style.Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:53:15 -0500Yes, it was ridiculous, but it wasn't destroying the country.and there was no real need to "crush the unions".Industry is comparatively non-existent now compared with 40 years ago.So I'd say we're more destroyed now than we were then!https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546198805#546198805Yes, it was ridiculous, but it wasn't destroying the country.and there was no real need to "crush the unions".Industry is comparatively non-existent now compared with 40 years ago.So I'd say we're more destroyed now than we were then!Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:52:01 -0500I lived through it and remember the stupidity of some of the reasons for striking.Industry was falling behind the rest of the world and no matter why if management wanted to make changes it provoked the threat of a strike.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546198763#546198763I lived through it and remember the stupidity of some of the reasons for striking.Industry was falling behind the rest of the world and no matter why if management wanted to make changes it provoked the threat of a strike.Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:49:44 -0500Nope, the 'Destroying the country" bit was.It suited certain political agendas to make it as bad and to seem as bad as possible.I remember it.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30584717/ken-livingstone-summarises-history-on-bbc-news-channel?post_id=546198669#546198669Nope, the 'Destroying the country" bit was.It suited certain political agendas to make it as bad and to seem as bad as possible.I remember it.Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:42:31 -0500