New Posts For Thread: Ex-chancellor Ken Clarke denies molesting actor Ben Fellowshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows.http://www.ealingtimes.co.uk/news/13501429.Ex_chancellor_Ken_Clarke_denies_molesting_actor_Ben_Fellows/?ref=mr&lp=1Former chancellor of the exchequer Ken Clarke today denied molesting a young actor, saying the allegation was "like Martians landing".But surely if you persistently allege someone has committed a serious crime, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it happened, not on the other person to prove it didn't?But he's the one on trial, so the Crown has to prove beyond reasonable dohttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703933#545703933But surely if you persistently allege someone has committed a serious crime, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it happened, not on the other person to prove it didn't?But he's the one on trial, so the Crown has to prove beyond reasonable doThu, 30 Jul 2015 13:12:30 -0500Couldn't care less about MPs. I'm concerned if someone were to start making allegations like this against me (or you).https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703831#545703831Couldn't care less about MPs. I'm concerned if someone were to start making allegations like this against me (or you).Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:06:23 -0500need to stop accusations against MPS in their tracks, next they will be claiming that there is a load of paedophiles in westministerhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703625#545703625need to stop accusations against MPS in their tracks, next they will be claiming that there is a load of paedophiles in westministerThu, 30 Jul 2015 12:54:07 -0500But surely if you persistently allege someone has committed a serious crime, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it happened, not on the other person to prove it didn't?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703617#545703617But surely if you persistently allege someone has committed a serious crime, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it happened, not on the other person to prove it didn't?Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:53:56 -0500You seem pleased Leopard. Begs the question why?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703585#545703585You seem pleased Leopard. Begs the question why?Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:51:40 -0500No proof that he lied does not mean that there is any proof that he was telling the truth.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703539#545703539No proof that he lied does not mean that there is any proof that he was telling the truth.Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:48:52 -0500Need orioles' opinion here, but this sounds unprecedented. Turns the burden of proof on its head.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545703469#545703469Need orioles' opinion here, but this sounds unprecedented. Turns the burden of proof on its head.Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:42:07 -0500.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-33724010https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545701677#545701677.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-33724010Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:26:35 -0500Ben Fellows cleared of perverting the course of justiceJurors decided there was no proof he had liedResult !https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545701639#545701639Ben Fellows cleared of perverting the course of justiceJurors decided there was no proof he had liedResult !Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:25:00 -0500Police have charged him....not Clarke.Fellows is on trial at the Old Bailey accused of perverting the course of justice by making up a false claim against Mr Clarke.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30559581/ex-chancellor-ken-clarke-denies-molesting-actor-ben-fellows?post_id=545668061#545668061Police have charged him....not Clarke.Fellows is on trial at the Old Bailey accused of perverting the course of justice by making up a false claim against Mr Clarke.Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:04:27 -0500