New Posts For Thread: BBC doc on doping.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-dopingWhere does mo stand.Allan Wells has claimed he has been the victim of a ‘hatchet job’ and plans to fight allegations in a BBC documentary that he doped his way to Olympic gold.In the Panorama investigation aired on Wednesday evening, the retired Scotsman was accusedhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010743#545010743Allan Wells has claimed he has been the victim of a ‘hatchet job’ and plans to fight allegations in a BBC documentary that he doped his way to Olympic gold.In the Panorama investigation aired on Wednesday evening, the retired Scotsman was accusedFri, 05 Jun 2015 06:03:40 -0500The point made before about people not getting caught by testing is very valid. It's for this reason that some athletes who get caught now are given much lighter bans if they are prepared to spill the beans and name names. I think Tyson Gay was an exhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010407#545010407The point made before about people not getting caught by testing is very valid. It's for this reason that some athletes who get caught now are given much lighter bans if they are prepared to spill the beans and name names. I think Tyson Gay was an exFri, 05 Jun 2015 05:22:16 -0500I did a quick search for 'steroids in the NFL' but couldn't come up with anything of great substance. However, wiki provides this tidbit: Since the NFL started random, year-round tests and suspending players for banned substances [in 1987,] many morehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010335#545010335I did a quick search for 'steroids in the NFL' but couldn't come up with anything of great substance. However, wiki provides this tidbit: Since the NFL started random, year-round tests and suspending players for banned substances [in 1987,] many moreFri, 05 Jun 2015 05:15:37 -0500flo jo was as clean as anyone whoever raced. Otherwise you're just a speculating gossip monger Omerta is the wordhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010329#545010329flo jo was as clean as anyone whoever raced. Otherwise you're just a speculating gossip monger Omerta is the wordFri, 05 Jun 2015 05:14:36 -0500Not forgetting Flo Jo.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010309#545010309Not forgetting Flo Jo.Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:12:04 -0500As I understand it, Carl Lewis tested positive, but in those days before strict liability was introduced it was allowed to plead mitigating circumstances. However, if the same case arose today, he would not have tested positive in the first place, ashttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010285#545010285As I understand it, Carl Lewis tested positive, but in those days before strict liability was introduced it was allowed to plead mitigating circumstances. However, if the same case arose today, he would not have tested positive in the first place, asFri, 05 Jun 2015 05:08:38 -0500Armstrong won seven Tours de France AFTER failing a drugs test. Carl Lewis failed THREE tests at the 1988 US Olympic trials, yet the infinitely less marketable Ben Johnson was the fall guy. Over 100 US athletes failed tests between 1988-2000 yet werehttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010197#545010197Armstrong won seven Tours de France AFTER failing a drugs test. Carl Lewis failed THREE tests at the 1988 US Olympic trials, yet the infinitely less marketable Ben Johnson was the fall guy. Over 100 US athletes failed tests between 1988-2000 yet wereFri, 05 Jun 2015 04:57:16 -0500Well, the authorities patently do expose cheats when they catch them - it's that fact that, I would suggest, leads to the 'well if Lance Armstrong is at it (i.e has been caught and exposed) then they all are' Catch-22 scenario.Re Alzado, I don't supphttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545010031#545010031Well, the authorities patently do expose cheats when they catch them - it's that fact that, I would suggest, leads to the 'well if Lance Armstrong is at it (i.e has been caught and exposed) then they all are' Catch-22 scenario.Re Alzado, I don't suppFri, 05 Jun 2015 04:32:20 -0500I don't know what the authorities do. I do know that as a member of the 'all at it' camp that I don't trust them to expose cheating, even if they do catch offenders.Btw, I'd never heard of Alzado but a qwiki suggests that there is no proof that his shttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545009945#545009945I don't know what the authorities do. I do know that as a member of the 'all at it' camp that I don't trust them to expose cheating, even if they do catch offenders.Btw, I'd never heard of Alzado but a qwiki suggests that there is no proof that his sFri, 05 Jun 2015 04:13:14 -0500So what do you do?Change the toleration levels of tests and run the risk of excluding hitherto clean athletes? Or stay as we are and effectively accommodate the 'microdosers' pushing at the margins of testing acceptability?It's not an easy one to anshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30515763/bbc-doc-on-doping?post_id=545009821#545009821So what do you do?Change the toleration levels of tests and run the risk of excluding hitherto clean athletes? Or stay as we are and effectively accommodate the 'microdosers' pushing at the margins of testing acceptability?It's not an easy one to ansFri, 05 Jun 2015 03:51:02 -0500