New Posts For Thread: Capitalism, Tony Benn and Potatoes.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoesSomething I wrote earlier, when a mate posted about the white working class being left behindI think this is where capitalism fundamentally comes unglued. We like to think we live in a land and indeed world of opportunity, where the wealthy are so beYes Injera. that was what I meant.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711893#542711893Yes Injera. that was what I meant.Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:04:50 -0600That's something I often think T&C. In the winter we were always cold indoors but it never occurred to you that you should be warmer.8 rooms in our house and one coal fire which had to be lit each morning.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711887#542711887That's something I often think T&C. In the winter we were always cold indoors but it never occurred to you that you should be warmer.8 rooms in our house and one coal fire which had to be lit each morning.Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:04:29 -0600Clunge - moving away from traditional jobs is surely a way to improve?Many of us (me included) stay where we are and don't take the plunge.The people I know who have bettered themselves have changed career.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711831#542711831Clunge - moving away from traditional jobs is surely a way to improve?Many of us (me included) stay where we are and don't take the plunge.The people I know who have bettered themselves have changed career.Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:00:55 -0600One main difference between now and the 1960's is security of employment, a "job for life" was common. Also hours worked. It used to be 40 hours a week Monday to Friday.People felt more secure and possibly more at ease. Although living conditionshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711827#542711827One main difference between now and the 1960's is security of employment, a "job for life" was common. Also hours worked. It used to be 40 hours a week Monday to Friday.People felt more secure and possibly more at ease. Although living conditionsThu, 18 Dec 2014 13:00:41 -0600Some confusion here between rising living standards and social mobility.I grew up in the 1960s with a standard of living that might see me taken into care now. These days I live in a household with luxuries such as a washing machine, radiators and ahttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711639#542711639Some confusion here between rising living standards and social mobility.I grew up in the 1960s with a standard of living that might see me taken into care now. These days I live in a household with luxuries such as a washing machine, radiators and aThu, 18 Dec 2014 12:47:49 -0600There's an abundance of stats here.http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-mobility-data-chartshttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711239#542711239There's an abundance of stats here.http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-mobility-data-chartsThu, 18 Dec 2014 12:18:19 -0600There's a difference though Injera, between someone moving away from traditional jobs, and being paid more for them. And yes, we are wealthier, more or less across the board, which is great.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711203#542711203There's a difference though Injera, between someone moving away from traditional jobs, and being paid more for them. And yes, we are wealthier, more or less across the board, which is great.Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:16:32 -0600[b]cap rents.Sounds so easy. But what would be the consequencies of capping rents (rent control) bearing in mind that it's been tried before and didn't work, and the reason we had the 1987 Rent Act was because the private rental sector wasn't workinghttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711145#542711145[b]cap rents.Sounds so easy. But what would be the consequencies of capping rents (rent control) bearing in mind that it's been tried before and didn't work, and the reason we had the 1987 Rent Act was because the private rental sector wasn't workingThu, 18 Dec 2014 12:12:43 -0600We're into a new age of low wage, insecure jobs, and a transient international workforce. Good for those at the top and the skilled, bad for the unskilled. Not so much an issue for the older workers with their property and pensions not so good for thttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711129#542711129We're into a new age of low wage, insecure jobs, and a transient international workforce. Good for those at the top and the skilled, bad for the unskilled. Not so much an issue for the older workers with their property and pensions not so good for tThu, 18 Dec 2014 12:10:42 -0600Clunge - so what are you saying cos it's unclear in your opening post.If you really think there's no 'social mobility' you obviously aren't aware of the painters + decorators/plumbers/builders etc making 30 grand +.More people travel abroad then everhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30403889/capitalism-tony-benn-and-potatoes?post_id=542711125#542711125Clunge - so what are you saying cos it's unclear in your opening post.If you really think there's no 'social mobility' you obviously aren't aware of the painters + decorators/plumbers/builders etc making 30 grand +.More people travel abroad then everThu, 18 Dec 2014 12:10:19 -0600