New Posts For Thread: The two 18 year old thugs who kicked a man to deathhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-deathand seriously injured an elderly man with unprovoked attacks, have got 19 and 21 years.Who restricts the sentences the judge can apply, if in fact the judge is restricted, which I think he is? This like many others was a diabolical crime, and yet theLeave punishment and retribution out of it.While a criminal is locked up the public are protected.This is the important factor. The public must be protectedWith the present lenient attitude they are not.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417651210#417651210Leave punishment and retribution out of it.While a criminal is locked up the public are protected.This is the important factor. The public must be protectedWith the present lenient attitude they are not.Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:53:31 -0600This threads longer than the jail sentence.Should lock them up and throw away the key.https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417649190#417649190This threads longer than the jail sentence.Should lock them up and throw away the key.Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:46:27 -0600Put 100 Burglars on a non custodial scheme for 6 months and maybe 35 of them will be reformed , but the other 65 will carry on burgling, probably robbing hundreds of houses during that period.you have a link ? Hardly necessary as you admit yourselfhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417649098#417649098Put 100 Burglars on a non custodial scheme for 6 months and maybe 35 of them will be reformed , but the other 65 will carry on burgling, probably robbing hundreds of houses during that period.you have a link ? Hardly necessary as you admit yourselfThu, 10 Dec 2009 16:37:45 -0600we want so badly to ostracise criminals, make out they are 'monsters' ie, not human, not like us;Monsters sounds like a very good description of the 9 young persons arrested in Birmingham for kicking a man to death who refused to give them a cigaretthttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648934#417648934we want so badly to ostracise criminals, make out they are 'monsters' ie, not human, not like us;Monsters sounds like a very good description of the 9 young persons arrested in Birmingham for kicking a man to death who refused to give them a cigarettThu, 10 Dec 2009 11:23:53 -0600Not saying all but many for sure .https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648830#417648830Not saying all but many for sure .Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:39:37 -0600bix 10 Dec 14:13 To solve a problem it is sometimes useful to look at the two extremes of the issue and here these are1. Do nothing and completely ignore the crimes and let the offenders do whatever they wish or2. The death penalty for all crimesObvihttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648822#417648822bix 10 Dec 14:13 To solve a problem it is sometimes useful to look at the two extremes of the issue and here these are1. Do nothing and completely ignore the crimes and let the offenders do whatever they wish or2. The death penalty for all crimesObviThu, 10 Dec 2009 08:38:14 -0600but is that because they dont appeal against life imprisonment, as they would appeal a death sentence because they could be given the death penalty on review ?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648818#417648818but is that because they dont appeal against life imprisonment, as they would appeal a death sentence because they could be given the death penalty on review ?Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:34:55 -0600epi as ive just said , most murders have no premeditationhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648814#417648814epi as ive just said , most murders have no premeditationThu, 10 Dec 2009 08:30:53 -0600wit hamin the states 2 out of 3 are overturned on appealhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648810#417648810wit hamin the states 2 out of 3 are overturned on appealThu, 10 Dec 2009 08:29:04 -0600and what percentage are overturned on appeal ?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23419650/the-two-18-year-old-thugs-who-kicked-a-man-to-death?post_id=417648806#417648806and what percentage are overturned on appeal ?Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:26:34 -0600