New Posts For Thread: Free speech and liberalismhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalismThe people should be free to say what they like.They should be able to take whatever drug they choose.They should be free to hold any view concerning race or sexuality.The people should then be free to take account of and act upon those views/opinion(having to have an English plumber rather than a Pole for example) -Why do they English hate themselves so much? What's wrong with your plumbers?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416920166#416920166(having to have an English plumber rather than a Pole for example) -Why do they English hate themselves so much? What's wrong with your plumbers?Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:59:36 -0600Doesn'tsound like any definition of liberalism I've come across. To take the points in order.1) absolute freedom of speech is an idea so easily dismissed I find it very hard to believe its being suggested in seriouness. Theatre. Fire. Need I go on?2https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416920094#416920094Doesn'tsound like any definition of liberalism I've come across. To take the points in order.1) absolute freedom of speech is an idea so easily dismissed I find it very hard to believe its being suggested in seriouness. Theatre. Fire. Need I go on?2Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:06:43 -0600Immigration or temporary stop-over for usual residents of the Politics forum thread imo.....twunt magnet :Dhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416920066#416920066Immigration or temporary stop-over for usual residents of the Politics forum thread imo.....twunt magnet :DThu, 12 Nov 2009 03:41:54 -0600Ultimately yes, I would agree. However, it must be approached over time as it is inconsistent with the current structure of the economy, viz. that coercion is applied by the state to all and so it would be wrong in my view to then allow the discrimihttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416920026#416920026Ultimately yes, I would agree. However, it must be approached over time as it is inconsistent with the current structure of the economy, viz. that coercion is applied by the state to all and so it would be wrong in my view to then allow the discrimiThu, 12 Nov 2009 03:20:54 -0600The people should be free to say what they like.They should be able to take whatever drug they choose.They should be free to hold any view concerning race or sexualityWasn't that more or less the situation we had up until towards the end of the sixtihttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416920006#416920006The people should be free to say what they like.They should be able to take whatever drug they choose.They should be free to hold any view concerning race or sexualityWasn't that more or less the situation we had up until towards the end of the sixtiThu, 12 Nov 2009 02:58:32 -0600What I'm trying to say is that the way to stop these things (drug taking etc) is for people to make those choices and then see the result of what that choice has provided.Another example: Children should have it explained to them - aged about 11 or 1https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416920002#416920002What I'm trying to say is that the way to stop these things (drug taking etc) is for people to make those choices and then see the result of what that choice has provided.Another example: Children should have it explained to them - aged about 11 or 1Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:57:47 -0600a bit of liberalism in society is good, but it has past the tipping point and is now one of the main reasons for what is wrong with our society.drinks/drugs , yeah it`s cool to say you are into them, but there is so much distress, pain and trouble thhttps://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416919994#416919994a bit of liberalism in society is good, but it has past the tipping point and is now one of the main reasons for what is wrong with our society.drinks/drugs , yeah it`s cool to say you are into them, but there is so much distress, pain and trouble thThu, 12 Nov 2009 02:44:27 -0600Can't agree with you Gene. I'd suggest that what you are advocating isn't liberalism but anarchy!https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416919986#416919986Can't agree with you Gene. I'd suggest that what you are advocating isn't liberalism but anarchy!Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:39:26 -0600no they have Chit Chat for that :-)https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416919982#416919982no they have Chit Chat for that :-)Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:38:08 -0600Paddy.People will have those views anyway.Do you think there are millions of people that are just waiting for complete free speech so they can run out into the street and abuse the nearest black/asian/gay they can find?https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23402174/free-speech-and-liberalism?post_id=416919978#416919978Paddy.People will have those views anyway.Do you think there are millions of people that are just waiting for complete free speech so they can run out into the street and abuse the nearest black/asian/gay they can find?Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:35:50 -0600