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irishone
21 Feb 21 07:34
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What can we do to stop this ? . .....

How about "all Irish horses have to be vaccinated for the Isle of Wight covid variant"
"No we done the vaccination excuse couple of years back"

"Can't we use helicopters to dry out the ground ?"

"How about all trainers have to wear face shields as well as facemasks ?, Mullins would never do that ...."

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By:
irishone
When: 21 Feb 21 07:45
"Lets check to see if any of their favourites names are racially offensive"
By:
cobra sam
When: 21 Feb 21 09:01
im an englishman had about 20 ante post bets 90%irish mules ....come on the irish i say!!!!!...no problem for me that at this time irish are dominating ..enjoy it while it lasts irishone
By:
irishone
When: 21 Feb 21 09:19
ExcitedLaugh cheers sam
By:
irishone
When: 21 Feb 21 09:47
Heard that Irish owners will have to put up a security for the VAT unless there is a formal ruling before the festival from both sides. The horses (yes the horses not the drivers or the hands) have to get a blood test and certification to travel, more fecking dosh .
By:
irishone
When: 21 Feb 21 09:48
British Horseracing Authority website warns, “It remains the case that relative to arrangements prior to 31 December 2020, the process to move horses is considerably more complex administratively and time consuming.”
By:
shlotter
When: 21 Feb 21 11:21
One nearly choked on Tarkers burnt bran muffin whilst reading this thread Irishone. Since the Brexit one misses the organic Gloucestershire chocolate chips.
By:
strontium
When: 21 Feb 21 13:24
Why would the BHA care who wins?
By:
duffy
When: 21 Feb 21 13:43
^
stranger
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 06:16
"Well done to whoever got that photo"

If we can stop Gordon getting here we have got half a chance ! "
By:
GAZO
When: 01 Mar 21 06:32
must be his mate who took the photo
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 06:52
Wonder how much he got and from whom ?
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 01 Mar 21 08:37
You do post some odd things irishone. For me, punting on racing is all about backer vs layer but you seem obsessed with the nationality of the trainer.

When i back a winner, which is quite rare I couldn't give a toss what nationality the trainer is.
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 09:08
Not at all
My biggest win so far this year was one of gary moores funnily enough.
The issue with me on this thread is that in the weeks before Cheltenham somebody, someone or something has this strange habit of coming up with something that upsets the Irish preparation.
By:
GAZO
When: 01 Mar 21 09:12
like what ?
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 09:27
Passports, jabs , brexit paperwork, vat ????
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 01 Mar 21 09:27
Im not just talking about this thread irishone, a lot of your posts seem to refer back to an ireland vs England theme, i just find that strange when we're discussing horse racing.
By:
GAZO
When: 01 Mar 21 09:37
those passports ect are all this season,you implied it happens all the time
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 18:18
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/10/willie-mullins-fears-cheltenham-withdrawals-document-irregularities

They sent out the vaccibation rules on February 15th 2019

Heres the Uk press last year 2020
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/horseracing/1247559/Cheltenham-2020-Cheltenham-Festival-cancelled-coronavirus-racing-news
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 18:18
British Horseracing Authority (BHA) will not allow the Irish trainer Gordon Elliott to race horses in Britain whilst the Irish authorities investigate an image that appeared on social media over the weekend.

The trainer admitted the photo was genuine and apologised for his actions.

The BHA, which regulates racing in Britain, will use powers under its own rules to refuse to allow horses trained by Mr Elliott to race in Britain pending consideration of the outcome of the Irish investigation.

The action taken by the BHA recognises that Mr Elliott is licensed in Ireland, whose regulatory body, the IHRB, is carrying out its own investigation.

However, Mr Elliott has entered horses to race in Britain, from which point the British Rules of Racing apply to him.

The decision to refuse to allow horses trained by Mr Elliott to run in Britain is therefore an interim decision which the BHA regards as proportionate in these circumstances.

In an earlier statement, the BHA said it was appalled by the image which undermined its values of respecting and caring for horses.

Notes to editors:

1. The BHA has acted under Rule I – 2.2 of the British Rules of Racing.

http://rules.britishhorseracing.com/#!/book/34/chapter/s3403-race-administration/content?section=s3404-general

2. Owners for horses currently trained by Mr Elliott are permitted to transfer them to a different trainer and run them at a British meeting, providing they comply with the relevant rules.
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 18:19
Despo Laugh
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 20:28
layingisthewayforward01 Mar 21 10:37Joined: 08 Sep 05 | Topic/replies: 3,152 | Blogger: layingisthewayforward's blog
You do post some odd things irishone. For me, punting on racing is all about backer vs layer but you seem obsessed with the nationality of the trainer.

Laying, obviously I am listening to too much english media .....
https://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/cheltenham/events-tickets/the-festival/about-the-event/the-prestbury-cup/

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2021/jan/07/talking-horses-why-the-irish-will-still-dominate-at-cheltenham-in-march

...and its going to get worse !
By:
cobra sam
When: 02 Mar 21 03:46
u still defending Elliot irishone?
By:
irishone
When: 02 Mar 21 06:02
How can anyone defend a perspn who has come out, said he was wrong and held his hands up.

What you going to do now , hang him for sitting on a deadhorse ?

Nicky Henderson, Quinny , Sheik Mo all doing wrong stuff against the integrity of racing. Still going strong !
By:
cobra sam
When: 02 Mar 21 09:38
my pal in dublin told me gordons girlfriend jessie harringtons daughter caught him shagging a stable lass whos name i wont say.......all hell broke loose and was her who released the photo
By:
irishone
When: 02 Mar 21 12:55
Panic back on .....

"OMG they sent his horses to Willie and Henry"

"FFS you and your big ideas !"
By:
irishone
When: 03 Mar 21 16:14
"We dont want this to rebound on us"

" How about saying we are enquiring into shekh mo , see if there is any social media riled up "

"I will give hrh a call"
By:
irishone
When: 03 Mar 21 16:24
ADMISSION OF PAST SHORTCOMINGS
In the Foreword to the Report from the BHA’s new Chief Executive, Nick Rust, acknowledges that the BHA does note “always get it right". Nick goes on to state: "the Report includes two cases studies which we must learn from. I am particularly grateful to Kate Walton and Jim Boyle for allowing us to include their experiences, and I would like to add my sincere apologies to them both for falling short of the required standards during the investigations in which they were involved.” The admission that the governing body does not "always get it right" and that they have learnt from their mistakes is welcomed, particularly given the culture of many governing bodies that means they are unwilling to admit errors, failures or shortcomings


GUESS WHAT LADS .....YOU GOT IT WRONG AGAIN
By:
irishone
When: 03 Mar 21 21:00
"The admission that the governing body does not "always get it right" and that they have learnt from their mistakes is welcomed"

So why punish someone who holds his hands up before its investigated by the ruling authority ?
By:
irishone
When: 04 Mar 21 14:33
Todays t1t bits .....

" her majesty not all that fussed about Sheikh Mo since Andrew' s case ......"

" ah good , what about Elliots ex-horses ,are they still all coming ? .... will there be the usual number ! "


"What are the odds now for the prestbury cup ?"
By:
Andymca
When: 06 Mar 21 11:14
So BHA Board Chief Executive Julie Harrington side stepped the doping scandal involving Sheikh Mohammed on the Opening Show this morning. Her answer has only strengthened the belief that the BHA acted on an anti Irish basis and there is one rule for the UK and another for Ireland.
By:
irishone
When: 06 Mar 21 12:10
Said something about following the governments advice on this issue referring to dominic someone.

One assumes the decision on whether or not the Sheik is bringing horse racing into disrepute is not a matter forthe BHA

Thus why would they interfere with the Gordon Elliot case by banning him previous to it becoming an issue for the Irish governing body to settle ?


Double standards at the BHA ?
By:
irishone
When: 19 Mar 21 07:11
"We really are witnessing a golden era in Irish jumps racing"

"Its got to be stopped, they will invade us eventually if we let this carry on"

"Have a word with the lords in westminster, see if we can get the common travel agreement rescinded"

"Too soon after brexit, the equine flu passports didnt work, the v a t con didnt work, even the Elliot photo"

"We need a full public enquiry". (Nap)
By:
grumpyjim
When: 19 Mar 21 08:44
Cheltenham by far best facilities still .. but Irish are catching up QUICK  .
  3 days to 4 .. not required .. get back to old way .. Pandemic  .....Cash is going on the back Burner . no longer much use .. BOOKMAKERS ON TRACK AND OLD WAY IS GOING FAST ..  English have a horse thats any good send it to be trained   YES  guessed CORRECT .. IRELAND  .. Irishone  .. we need to invade IRELAND   .. Never have we seen . so many ON LINE   market makers .. jumping up every week ..  All on line soon and stay in your workplace .. put your feet up on desk with your  .. GUINNESS   ..no longer any need for shop visits .. .. slice of toast with your drink   .....7days a week . you have your food in a can .. save the planet .. RECYCLE  .  we are gearing up to invade on line markets .. From  ........COMFORTS OF OUR HOME AND OFFICE  .. Drones to spy  what horse is fed ..  .. Probably uncontaminated .   GRASS  ..?
By:
irishone
When: 19 Mar 21 09:08
" dont think we should of stuck them in the best mate "
By:
irishone
When: 20 Mar 21 07:43
"Saw this on a betfair forum "Cheltenham might have to have British entries only in some races ,so we get a winner. " Is it beyond our capabilities ?
By:
irishone
When: 23 Mar 21 19:17
The BHA will not be launching any separate post-Cheltenham inquiry following the domination of last week's festival by runners trained in Ireland, with any review likely to be housed within existing considerations of the jump racing Pattern and the post-Covid-19 work on building a sustainable financial recovery for the sport.

Irish trainers broke records on almost every front over the four days of the meeting, with 23 victories shared between 11 different trainers. In comparison, the home side managed a paltry five winners, only two of which came at Grade 1 level.

A spokesman for the BHA congratulated both leading jockey Rachael Blackmore as well as the racecourse and broadcast teams at Cheltenham for "lifting the nation's spirits".

In addressing the alarmingly one-sided results, they said: "We are aware that, like all of us at the BHA, many parts of the racing industry will be reflecting on what happened last week and what can be done to improve the competitiveness of racing at the top level. However, this is about more than just four days in March.

"The health of British jump racing is always on our radar, and work is well under way across several areas. The Jump Pattern Committee, for example, decided last year that there were elements of the Pattern and Listed race programme that needed looking at, including the need to produce some more competitive races across the season.

"There are also important pieces of work across areas such as handicapping, and safety and welfare, which all feed into the longer-term objective of building a strong, competitive jump racing industry in Britain." 

Pressure has been building on the BHA to address the performance of the home-trained horses in the days since the festival was capped with a 1-2-3 for Ireland in the feature WellChild Cheltenham Gold Cup, a race where the first British-based runner, fourth-placed Native River, finished nearly 30 lengths adrift of winner Minella Indo.

Many leading trainers in Britain have had their say over the cause of the inequality in resources and results from last week, with Emma Lavelle and Harry Fry among those to identify poor prize-money as driving owners into the hands of their Irish counterparts, while Dan Skelton blamed "systematic flaws" in the system which favoured too many handicaps at the expense of races for potential Graded performers.

The BHA spokesman added: "The sport is currently working its way through one of the most difficult periods of its history off the back of the coronavirus outbreak, and the industry is working to an agreed plan for recovery from the pandemic, which includes a focus on the industry’s financial health, including the returns to owners.

"This plan also includes, in the longer term, sustainable recovery and growth for the sport. Over the coming weeks we intend to harness some of the strong views that currently prevail across the sport and engage further with our industry.

"We will listen to the views of owners, trainers, jockeys, breeders, racecourses and others. These views will feed in to ongoing work and continue to help shape what steps the sport will take to support the future of British jump racing."

On Monday National Trainers Federation president Rupert Arnold urged British handlers to be braver in their campaigning of horses and for the best to run against each other ahead of Cheltenham.

'The money is all in Ireland at present'

But former champion trainer Martin Pipe – a 34-time winner at the festival and a man often associated with being unafraid to run his horses – believes that prize-money rather than preparation is likely to be the key to reviving British fortunes.
By:
irishone
When: 23 Mar 21 19:20
Pipe said: "Well Chief only had one run over fences before the Arkle, and I remember Rolling Ball only had one run before winning the staying novice chase [Brown Advisory], while Cyborgo was first time out when he won the Stayers' Hurdle.

"The money [to buy good horses] is all in Ireland at present. It all comes back to prize-money. Horses have always been hard to find but the prize-money is better in Ireland and they don't have as much racing, compared to England."

Pipe added: "I was lucky to have some loyal owners and we bought some [nice] horses. But some of my Cheltenham winners came out of claimers, like Blowing Wind and Make A Stand. They weren't expensive.

"In Ireland we used to go to [Tom] Costello and David Johnson went across there and bought loads, untried basically. I used to go to the sales in Ireland and buy some store horses. They were all reasonable money, 20 or 30 thousand pounds.

"The trouble is, you don't realise the cost of keeping a horse and bringing it on. It costs a fortune and they've got to be trained. In that sense, when they've run and won a race, they're cheaper. It cuts out the risk, at least you know it can run. It's difficult to get a horse to a racecourse."
By:
irishone
When: 29 Mar 21 19:09
NT STATEMENT ISSUED ON BEHALF OF THE BRITISH HORSERACING AUTHORITY (BHA), RACECOURSE ASSOCIATION (RCA) AND THE HORSEMEN’S GROUP (HG)

The leaders of British racing have welcomed the announcement that £21 million of loan funding will be made available to the sport through the Sports Winter Survival Package. The money will be lent to the Horserace Betting Levy Board because of its role in providing central funding of industry costs of race-day regulation, equine welfare and industry training.

Leaders representing the British Horseracing Authority, the Racecourse Association and The Horsemen’s Group have been engaging with Sport England and DCMS since the Survival Package was announced on November 19th. It is intended to help sports severely impacted by coronavirus restrictions over the winter months, notably where the absence of spectators and the revenue they provide would pose a threat to the survival of clubs or sporting teams.

The funding model for racing is different from many sports where clubs will typically receive the revenues from spectators, employ the players or participants and fund the costs of staging sporting events. Racing’s leaders asked government to allow the Horserace Betting Levy Board (HBLB) to be the recipient of loan funding, because of its role in providing central funding to support raceday and other industry costs. Work continues with the HBLB to agree how the loan funding can best be used to assist the industry with surviving and recovering from COVID 19.

No changes are expected to the HBLB’s plan for funding race-days and prize money until the end of June. But with spectators not returning to racecourses until May 17th at the earliest, and in reduced numbers at that point, the gap in revenues will continue into July and until a full return of race-goers is possible. The government has already indicated that further financial help may be available for sports affected over the summer, which British racing has also welcomed.

Racing has taken into account the need to repay any funds borrowed from the original £40 million which government set as a limit for horseracing. Whilst the terms of the loans are favourable, there is a recognition that any debts incurred will have to be paid back from future Levy income. Racing’s leaders will now work with the HBLB on a plan to repay the loans over the ten‐year period.

The BHA’s Chief Executive Julie Harrington said

“We are extremely grateful to officials at Sport England, DCMS and the Treasury for their support in agreeing this funding to racing. We are grateful also to the Horserace Betting Levy Board for agreeing to our proposal and borrowing this money to support the central funding of racing. This money will help ensure racing continues behind closed doors despite the absence of spectator revenues. This will benefit our racecourses, our participants and their communities, and the vital role racing plays as an employer and contributor to the rural economy.”

David Armstrong, Chief Executive of the Racecourse Association, said

“The RCA and its Members are very grateful to the HBLB, DCMS and Sport England for putting in place this vital funding for the sport. Racecourses have suffered lost turnover of over £325m since the pandemic began and this funding will provide a crucial bridge for both Racecourses and Horsemen as we begin the long road to recovery.”

Charlie Liverton, Chief Executive of the Racecourse Owners Association, said

“Our thanks go to the officials at Sport England, DCMS and the Treasury for their help and support in providing this loan to British Racing. In particular, the team at Sport England for their time and advice during the process. The HBLB will be the recipients of the loan and we look forward to working with them to understand how the loan can be best utilized going forward. The Government’s Sports Winter Package has provided financial support to many sports industries over the past few months and this support to British Racing is very welcome.”
By:
irishone
When: 30 Mar 21 16:56
So you cant use the
"The money is in Ireland"

As an excuse
"That good auld chestnut"
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