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09 Feb 21 14:17
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https://www.attheraces.com/news/2021/February/09/nolan-seeking-winning-opportunity-for-latest-exhibition

Given that he is very likely the second best staying novice chaser I am a little surprised Nolan seems to be waving a white flag. On two of three Monkfish defeats he hasn't been a million miles away.

For whatever reason I don't think he quite ran up to scratch at the weekend. If he were mine I would have one last crack at Monkfish and if that failed then have a crack at the Punchestown Stayers Hurdle.

Perhaps they wished they had entered him for the Stayers Hurdle?

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By:
Nogoody
When: 09 Feb 21 15:27
my God,how selfish can they be? What about my bets ?
Seriously though, you can't blame them for thinking this way after Sunday. We all know the definition of insanity.
By:
buddeliea
When: 09 Feb 21 17:30
So we have the 2nd best 3m novice chaser in Ireland not running.
Lets hope the trainers here dont think the same!!
Would like a race to watch.
By:
differentdrum
When: 09 Feb 21 18:30
I understand that Monkfish does look very good, but Latest Exhibition did give him a race on two of their three meetings and probably didn't run to his best at the weekend. The Festival Chase has been his target all season. Yes, it is likely Monkfish will beat him again, but on a different track and ground not entirely certain. What happens if Monkfish doesn't perform on the day and a lesser horse than Latest Exhibition picks up the pieces? As above it could very well end up being a smaller than usual field.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Feb 21 19:56
could part of the reason be the owners may not be allowed to go and even if they can its not going to be the same,just a thought either way its a shame he is such a good horse.
By:
cloone river
When: 09 Feb 21 21:25
Maybe they keep him fresh for Punchestown in April.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Feb 21 21:40
hello cloone any thoughts on when you might get crowds back ?
By:
cloone river
When: 10 Feb 21 08:58
Cant see crowds back for the whole of 2021 sadly.
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 10 Feb 21 14:30
Crowds will be back in the summer 100%
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 16:14
blimey cloone Sadhope laying is right as i am sure you do,

surely some summer crowds perhaps back to no crowds in the winter who knows.
By:
cloone river
When: 10 Feb 21 19:06
Will be very surprise in Ireland to see crowds back this year.Hope I am wrong.Last weekend was hard missing out on Leopardstown.Was probably the two best days national hunt racing in a long time.
By:
Hibore
When: 10 Feb 21 19:34
Cheltenham are still hoping to have 2000 members in March.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 20:15
that would be good hibore fingers crossed


very hard indeed cloone and yes probably the best two days in a long time,no reason why 2022 cant be as good,

standout performance ?

you can only pick one
By:
cloone river
When: 10 Feb 21 21:05
They is so many.Give  me a few minutes.Only one?
By:
differentdrum
When: 10 Feb 21 21:08
Perhaps if you started another thread?
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 21:15
differentdrum ?
By:
cloone river
When: 10 Feb 21 21:23
Honeysuckle.Only sorry I didnt back it for the champion hurdle before the weekend.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 21:28
great she is going for the champion hurdle and obviously the right decision,i still think quite a bit of the horse she beat,mine was monkfish i just thought it was a simply perfect performance and he also beat a good one in latest exhibition,
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 21:31
the jockey has nothing to prove but it would be nice if she won a champion hurdle .
By:
cloone river
When: 10 Feb 21 21:40
Monkfish would be up they along with Energumene.Another thing about the weekend was how impressive Mullins horses won.Roll on Cheltenham.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 21:46
the bumper winner and dublin chase winner dont get a mentionSurprised
By:
cloone river
When: 10 Feb 21 21:51
Only one.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 21 21:51
monkfish is on rtv now ,anyone who has backed ballyadam for the supreme still has some hope .
By:
Nogoody
When: 11 Feb 21 18:35
I like Paul, have great time for him and James but it's time to ask the question.
If the horse had been sold to Joe Donnelly that time, what would Willy do with him?
I know it's an ' if my aunt had balls question ' but would he be taking on Envoi or perhaps be entered in the stayers ?,my own feeling is that Patrick would be schooling him for the N.H. chase and he'd be close to fav. for that race.
By:
penzance
When: 05 Mar 21 21:48
looks like he's going for a race @Fairyhouse.
By:
Nogoody
When: 06 Mar 21 06:39
would Willie,Gordon or Henry leave him at home ?
Does this mean he won't get an entry for next year's Gold Cup in case he meets Monkfish and Envoi ?
By:
buddeliea
When: 06 Mar 21 07:39
Maybe its more to do with owners not being able to see him run.
Their will be a fair few horses not going who would do in a normal year, because of that, i would think.

Shame though, we dont want to see horses not going cos they have been beaten by horses in the season, Ballyadam would not be going in that case and many others.

Going to be a strange festival this year.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 06 Mar 21 08:14
agree with op its horse racing and anything can happen  i would have another crack at monkfish at the festival .
By:
Jb23
When: 07 Mar 21 10:23
I would have been running him in the NHC personally. He can't match Monkfish's gears over 3m so he sure as hell doesn't have the pace for the Marsh as speculated in the article.

He looked in every need of 3 miles as a novice hurdler and as a sound jumper of a fence, I thought a dour test over an extended 3 1/2 miles would have been exactly up his street.

Would certainly go into the NHC as the class horse of the race.

With that said, Nolan will know more than anyone else, what is right for the horse.
By:
differentdrum
When: 07 Mar 21 20:04
He is not going, is he? Irish Grand National? Personally, I wouldn't back him because if anything I think he is better over shorter than three miles. Don't think he ran his race last time. Not so long ago he gave a Abacadabras a race over the minimum trip. That's not the performance of a plodder.
By:
irishone
When: 08 Mar 21 18:57
The horse is an out and out stayer, its allthrough the breeding, ideal for the national hunt chase, codds absence from Galvin may be a factor but there is no indication as yet in the three markets of the races he is entered for .....that he has been withdrawn and we know nolan loves a tilt at cheltenham.
By:
GI MAC
When: 08 Mar 21 19:08
https://www.racingtv.com/news/latest-exhibition-set-to-stay-at-home-and-wait-for-fairyhouse
By:
irishone
When: 08 Mar 21 19:26
Yes I have seen that.

The only thing forthe delay I can think of is if Elliot doesnt get his ones there and the ground aint soft enough for Venetias.

Personally I think with no market movements he should maybe officially withdraw the horse because the above has been stated in many media outlets.
By:
differentdrum
When: 09 Mar 21 11:49
As regards the pedigree both dam and grandam didn't win over three miles and there are no real out and out stayers in the recent history of this pedigree. Oscar has produced two milers and three milers. The Oscar/Supreme Leader cross has produced other Grade 1 winners at three miles but as far as I can see nothing significant over further.
By:
irishone
When: 09 Mar 21 16:28
Interesting Nolan won a hurdle at galway with him couple of years back and he stated quite.clearly that he thought the horse woukd stay all day.

He was quoted in the press at the time I see "He is from a staying family and is out of a mare Aura About You who won a Listed hurdle and was third at Cheltenham to Quevega. I think he'll stay all day and I think he will improve a good bit from today"
By:
irishone
When: 09 Mar 21 16:31
Dam won a limerick.novice chase in soft,heavy over 22f perhaps that was what he emphasised.
By:
differentdrum
When: 11 Mar 21 14:58
At this stage they have left him in so there is still little hope. Presumably, it is a case that if Monkfish runs they don't?

I think it was Davy Russell last night who was saying they should have a crack. I don't want it to happen but what if Monkfish, for whatever didn't run his race, or didn't complete, and the race was won by a second rater whose connections were prepared to give it a go?
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Mar 21 17:32
His participation is Monkfish dependent. I'd give it a go (prize money) esp on better ground. Anything could happen to Monkfish despite holding a small voucher at 7/4 on Monkfish (I'm no fan of connections).
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 11 Mar 21 17:36
never be afraid of one horse !................unless his name was frankel !
By:
The_LUFCwaffe
When: 11 Mar 21 21:56
If the owner has any illusions about Latest Exhibition being a Gold Cup horse, you don’t campaign by avoiding races at Cheltenham.

Latest Exhibition is 8yo, so next year would probably be its only opportunity at the very top level before it starts to naturally regress.

It makes sense to run the horse. Grand Nationals can wait for another year.
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