Adrien Du Pont (ADP) is 9/2 for the Adonis and I think there is value to be had there; ADP is actually rated 1lb superior to Gibralfaro (G). The newcomer, Zubayr, who is receiving 7lbs from ADP and G could be anything but at 11/4 must be restricted to those with inside info and not Joe public.

Should ADP run creditably, and if winning, will pay a massive boost to Sceau Royal (SR) and Leoncavallo, the latter's price for the Triumph has been 10x that of SR (7/1) ie 79/1!

Gibralfaro (G) is 16 here and Connetable, a horse that G has beaten when forced to make the running, yet is 10 - how absurd is that especially the speed G showed with over 4l to make up after the last hurdle to win?

Adrien du pont dosent run in the adonis he runs sunday with pilansberg and zubayr running for there triumph place in the adonis

If ADP is a non-runner in the Adonis will Gibralfaro go off odd-on?

When was Gibralfaro 16 on here?

Protek Des Flos interests me.

C&D winner and 2 from 2 for Henderson. Has a bit to find on the book but trainer has done well in this race with similar french breds like Zaynar.

20/1 in places and I think he is only entered here so likely to be shorter on the day.

Would personally be worried about the trip being too sharp for him on good ground Charwell. Thought he outstayed them at Trials day in an absolute bog. Also thought the same at Sandown last week, just outclassed everything. Think he is personally crying out for a trip and a fence, given the way he shaped last week. Agree with SC though, NRNB and he turns up, 20-1 is a great value based on your points!

interesting jockey bookings scooby.

thanks

yep, I'm struggling to see why Zubayr is shorter than Pilansberg to be honest, Pilansberg owned by same (or similar) connections to Dodging Bullets.

It's a bit of a guessing game, Nicholls early season stable tour suggests Zubayr might need time after being gelded whereas they have n't felt the need to geld Pilansberg. I would n't be that surprised to see one or the other on the flat over the summer either.

Anyway getting ahead of myself, let's see what happens tomorrow...

Backed Azzuri @ 100 on here for the Triumph in running when about 20 lengths clear.  That'll do me - formlines into this race are all over the place, so tiny stakes for a little bit of interest for me.

I wasnt blown away by the Adonis winner
Just looked at his time
Slower than the Dovecote carrying 8 lb less

Not for me at 6-1

jb 23 you can watch on france gallop or arqana. you get a free trial then you have to buy credits works out about 10p a race but if your backing larger sums, id rather know what im backing. although pilansberg was obviously poor, cashed out my bet for a 10% loss with 365. should have backed zubayr with them too last night, and also cashed out if lost  but I was happy with what I already had on.


04 Sep 2015 15:46

JCB Triumph Hurdle

Outright Ante Post, Zubayr, 20/1 Single £40.00 (Pot. Ret. £840.00)

Open

I don't even know. iv thrown a few darts and got no idea whats going to win, iv backed.
footpad 25s
Adrien du pont 25s runs tomorrow if dosent win, wont line up.
allblak des places 25s
zubayr 20s
pilansberg 75s and 40s ew (cashed out for 10% loss)
peak to peak 220.0 scratched from the race.

ill leave it at that and take my chances.

As expected a change in the going and 7lb weight concession to Zubayr proved too much for Gibralfaro; Zubayr ran very well as a 1st timer nevertheless at 7/1 is just too skinny in my opinion; Azzuri, the runner up and beaten 3.75l, finished way down the field to Charbel.

Well I for one was fairly impressed especially in terms of the form we've seen this year for the Triumph. Yes it was a strange race, but if all bar the long term leader had their own race, he won easily. He picked up that leader actually quite readily and the fact that didn't go along way clear perhaps says more about his inexperience. Also thought on the whole he jumped very well.

For me the stiffer course and the likely pace of the Triumph will only serve in his favour and whilst current price isn't that appealing, don't see one I'd rather back in front of him

it doesn't look like Zubayr beat much yesterday, I'm sure the horse will come on for the experience though. It didn't seem to settle very well and drifted massively in running (traded over 100 for a few quid) despite never being out of contention. It's hard to believe it's under 7/1 now, plenty others with better form in the book and much bigger prices

Jb23 leoncavallo goes to triumph according to an article I found last night by John ferguson.  Despite stating I wouldn't back another I took all the 100.0 about leoncavallo as o diddnt realise allblakdesplaces had been scratched. that will do me.

Ferguson has had just eight runners and a single winner in February but his yard is full of horses that were bred to win middle-distance Classics and his overall strike rate this season is 31%. When, or if, spring ground appears, his prolific early-season form is likely to return as well.

Wolfcatcher, who lines up against several other useful juveniles in the Adonis Hurdle at Kempton, is a typically blue-blooded runner from the Ferguson stable, by King’s Best out of a Sadler’s Wells mare. He is quoted at 20-1 for the Fred Winter and bigger for the Triumph, though he could yet miss Cheltenham and head for Aintree instead.

“I worked him on Tuesday before I left and I was delighted with him,” Ferguson said. “He’s the sort of horse that I’m hoping will really be suited by some better ground at Kempton. He’s done nothing wrong, he won at Market Rasen early in the season and then came back and got beaten by Dan Skelton’s horse [Kasakh Noir]. He fluffed the second-last and I think if he’d jumped that a bit better, he might have finished a short-head in front. He deserves to take his chance and we’ll know a lot more about him afterwards.

“I’ve also got Leoncavallo for the Triumph, who I’m very happy with, and [the third-favourite] Jaleo for the Fred Winter, so we might decide to go for the Grade One juvenile at Aintree instead. The whole point of tomorrow is to decide which one of those three routes we are going to take.”

Ferguson’s entries for the Festival also include Penglai Pavilion, who finished fifth in the 2013 Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe and took a valuable novice hurdle at Cheltenham earlier in the season. His best chance to saddle a Cheltenham Festival winner at the final attempt, however, could come in the Bumper, the target for the five-year-old High Bridge.

Even by Ferguson’s standards, High Bridge has a pedigree from the top drawer. He is by Monsun, an outstanding sire of stayers whose offspring include Estimate, the Queen’s Ascot Gold Cup winner, and consecutive Melbourne Cup winners in Fiorente and Protectionist. His dam, meanwhile, was Ameerat, the winner of the 1,000 Guineas in 2001.

Good to know Leoncavallo is in good nick and ready for the Triumph and the long uphill finish at Cheltenham is just what he relishes.