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Report Ramruma February 18, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
Empiracle was described by Scott as being better than Grade 1 winner Melodic Rendezvous but that looks like so much hot air (or at least overreaction after an impressive win) since Empiracle was allowed to start at 7/1 in a bumper worth less than £1,400. Usain Bolt would not be 7/1 if he turned up at my daughter's school sports day.
Report BJG February 18, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
Red Sherlock finished for the season
Report cmacedin February 18, 2013 7:23 PM GMT
What's the story with Red Sherlock?
Report red and white February 18, 2013 8:13 PM GMT
Hard race on Saturday, put away for next season.
Report willie the milk February 18, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
I'm also on regal Encore. Was a little disturbed to see it drifting last week but it has came back again
Report cmacedin February 20, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
Just watched Regal Encores 2 runs for the umteenth time. This has to be a serious contender for the Champion Bumper.
Report Ramruma February 20, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
Regal Encore, like most in the field, has won poor races impressively.

The irony is that Red Sherlock beat Captain Cutter who'd won the Listed bumper at Ascot, so would have lined up with arguably the best form in the race.

JP bought Regal Encore after his debut win but so what? JP buys some right old rubbish. McCoy was driving last time and if AP is on top at Cheltenham, he'll be on my shortlist but only because I rate AP as a judge: the form tells us nothing.
Report cmacedin February 21, 2013 8:29 AM GMT
Hello Ramruma,
Can't disagree with your comments,however it was the way Regal ran in both races,right out the back as if they knew they had the best horse in the race and the way it so quickly made up ground when asked.The girl who rode first race was obviously riding to instructions,keep well back avoiding the kick back,you are on best horse in the race.2 great rides, you can only beat whats put up against you.I still think that this is a serious contender.We can review this after festival.Cheers and best of luck.
Report Ming_the_Merciless February 21, 2013 11:51 AM GMT
I've made a promise to myself not to get involved in this race at all this year - certainly my worst race historically as I always wade in to something on some trivial pretext.

I was also wondering how long that resolve will last ... CryCryCry
Report booster February 21, 2013 11:59 AM GMT
Not a race I ever take a lot of notice of other than to watch for next year's novice hurdlers and don't know how the form stacks up, but Empiracle was very impressive at Wincanton in the Autumn and he'd take some beating from what I saw.
Report michael_o February 22, 2013 9:20 AM GMT
It was Huntingdon actually. On good ground (PLEASE) can't see anything better in the race.
Report Swagger February 22, 2013 9:46 AM GMT
It's often difficult to go by form for the bumper as it's so mixed, i normally go by the horse that looks a potential machine and i think that horse could be Clondaw Court. Anyone know if there are any plans for the horse to run again before the festival as hasn't been seen for a long time?
Report unclepuncle February 22, 2013 10:00 AM GMT
Advised and backed Golantilla at 20/1 straight after his debut (all posted on here so not aftertimingSilly) and his breeding suggests better ground will suit so very hopeful, though obviously it's a minefield.
Report Ramruma February 22, 2013 2:25 PM GMT
Clondaw Court has been mainly talked up by his jockey, Paddy Mullins. There does not seem to have been much money for him though.

I get the impression no-one is very confident this year, with the Irish thinking the English can win and the English thinking it will be going back home on the ferry.

This is odd in a way, since we have seen some visually impressive performances but often in tuppenny-ha'penny races and invariably on desperate ground.
Report BJG February 27, 2013 12:12 PM GMT
THE WEATHERBYS CHAMPION BUMPER
Grade 1, Class 1, £60,000 total prize fund. 5.15pm, Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 2m. 110yds.
Form Horse Age Owner Trainer
22 A TWIST OF FATE (IRE) 6 Claire Simpson Claire Simpson IRE
1 BALLY RONE (IRE) 5 A J Rhead Rebecca Curtis
2212 BE BOP BORU (IRE) 6 The Oak Syndicate Tim Vaughan
221 BLACKMAIL (FR) 5 John Breslin Tony Martin IRE
1 BOB TUCKER (IRE) 6 Nigel Davies Brendan Powell
1 BRIAR HILL (IRE) 5 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
CADDELLS ROW 5 Alan Lamont Karen McLintock
123 CALEDONIA 6 Lorimer Racing Jim Goldie
11 CENTASIA 6 Roger Brookhouse David Pipe
1 CLONDAW COURT (IRE) 6 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
1 DIAMOND KING (IRE) 5 Diana Whateley Donald McCain
11 DOCTOR HARPER (IRE) 5 David Johnson David Pipe
1 DRUMLEE (IRE) 5 J P McManus Charlie Swan IRE
1 EMPIRACLE (IRE) 6 The Town & Country Partnership Jeremy Scott
FAMOUSANDFEARLESS (IRE) 5 The Bravo Partnership David Pipe
1-4 FASCINO RUSTICO 5 John Hales Paul Nicholls
1 GALLANT TIPP (IRE) 5 Mrs Edward O'Grady Edward O'Grady IRE
1 GOLANTILLA (IRE) 5 Barry Connell Tony Martin IRE
1 GRECIAN TIGER (IRE) 4 Joseph Higgins Dermot Weld IRE
11 HELLORBOSTON (IRE) 5 Thomson Fyffe Racing Donald McCain
1(5) I'M FRAAM GOVAN 5 Sir Alex Ferguson George Baker
1 JOHNNY OG 4 T Hanlon M Boothright S Hanlon N Martin Martin Keighley
22 KAYF MOSS 5 L H & Mrs T Evans John Flint
5(2)(2) LADY LECTRA 4 Robert Quinn John Flint
1 LE VENT D'ANTAN (FR) 4 Goliath Syndicate Liz Doyle IRE
1 MILO MAN (IRE) 5 William & Angela Rucker Evan Williams
142 MISTER NIBBLES (IRE) 5 David Gordon Roberts Stuart Crawford IRE
120 MONKEY KINGDOM 5 Gearoid Costelloe Rebecca Curtis
1 MOYLE PARK (IRE) 5 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
333- OFF THE WALL (IRE) 6 Malcolm Denmark David Pipe
211 OSCAR ROCK (IRE) 5 Mr & Mrs G Calder Harry Fry
0/-31 OUR POLLYANNA (IRE) 6 The Dunkley & Reilly Partnership Alan King
0-012 POSIDEN SEA (FR) 5 Thistle Bloodstock Limited Dessie Hughes IRE
14 PURE SCIENCE (IRE) 5 Raymond Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies
1 PURPLE BAY (IRE) 4 Bloomfields John Ferguson
1 RATHVAWN BELLE (IRE) 6 J M Barcoe Dick Donohoe IRE
(1)-1 REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 5 John McManus Anthony Honeyball
1(1) SGT RECKLESS 6 Camilla Radford Mick Channon
4 SHIELD (IRE) 4 Annemarie O'Brien Aidan O'Brien IRE
16 SHIPTON 4 Nigel Davies Brendan Powell
4-11 SIZING TENNESSEE (IRE) 5 Ann & Alan Potts Partnership Willie Mullins IRE
TASRIH (USA) 4 Bloomfields John Ferguson
2 THE CLOCK LEARY (IRE) 5 A Brooks Venetia Williams
2-21 THE LIQUIDATOR 5 Roger Brookhouse David Pipe
11 UNION DUES (FR) 5 Allan McLuckie Willie Mullins IRE
1 UNOWHATIMEANHARRY 5 Miss S J Hartley Helen Nelmes
111 VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 4 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent David Pipe
1122 VINSTAR (FR) 4 Tim Leslie Donald McCain
WESTERN COMMANDER (IRE) 6 Gearoid Costelloe Rebecca Curtis
2 WILLPOWER (IRE) 4 Alan Spence Mark Johnston
1 YES SIR BRIAN (IRE) 4 Thomas C O'Neill Garrett Power IRE
51 entries
17 Irish-trained
Report red and white February 27, 2013 1:13 PM GMT
Thanks BJG. I think it's marvellous that the betfair forum gets the information out quicker than the racing post. They're still showing possible entries.
Report BJG February 27, 2013 1:15 PM GMT
I av to be ahead of ye fkers or all my prices will b taken b4 i know wats happenin Grin
Report Fabulous February 27, 2013 1:18 PM GMT
Laugh
Report IanD83 February 27, 2013 1:26 PM GMT
Normally have one I really like in this race but really unsure this year. Currently thinking Sgt Reckless ew but no real conviction.
Report red and white February 27, 2013 1:26 PM GMT
Is it not double prices now it's double the runners? Silly
Report Brooksielad February 27, 2013 1:46 PM GMT
think oscars rock is very interesting if lining up, beat Vago Collognes who is thought of as a very good horse, that race is quite a good trial. Only worry is he might not show as fry has said will only run if the ground is soft.
Report CheltenhamRoar February 27, 2013 2:13 PM GMT
Clearly Shield was only given a hack round in his Bumper last week,Wouldn't be surprised if he skates in under young Joseph.
Report Tory February 27, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
Oscar Rock misses one stat - 'been off track 33 days'. Will have been off 32.....
Report Tory February 27, 2013 9:43 PM GMT
Anyone know the plan for Moyle Park? Quite big on BF. cheers
Report Fallen Angel February 27, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
@Brookshield yeah I had heard that two on the live interview, it was the emphasis on will only run if really soft that would put me off. Otherwise he has a real chance
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 28, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
keen leader 27 Jan 13 21:33

.........moyle park needs little improvement to win a substandard bumper, and he will be much better on decent ground according to harry who i have found to be a reliable judge.
willie knows how to fine tune for cheltenham and that could be the vital ingredient.
the horse took the journey and proceedings at cheltenham in his stride (Golantilla did not in december), so unlike most of the other irish entries, we know he has the temperment to handle a trip away from home, an aspect overlooked when form students are analysing irish festival entries.

On Twitter from Preview Night tonite in Dublin
"The Shark is concerned that Golantilla won't have settled with the change of yard in time for Cheltenham".
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 28, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
Preview nite - "Something to note: Willie Mullins strike rate is 35%. Remarkable. Won the Champion Bumper 6 times".
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 28, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
LIVE from Peadar Kearneys, Dame Street in Dublin

"Clondaw Court may not run if the ground drys up"

"David Jennings has gone for Le Vent D'Anton in the bumper"
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 28, 2013 9:43 PM GMT
Liz Doyle has decided against taking Le Vent D'Antan to Leopardstown for a gallop after racing on Sunday.

"He seems very well," said Doyle.
"I'm not going to take him to Leopardstown now. I just thought the ground could get a bit quick for him so we took him for a spin on a grass gallop on Tuesday instead."

"He's bouncing, he has been perfect, but we could just do with a bit of rain before Cheltenham, which it looks like they'll get. There's just a question mark over him on good ground and I'd rather run with everything in his favour."

"Mikey Fogarty rode him in the gallop, like he always does. It was over one-mile-six with two others. He looks very healthy. In the last six months we've not had a problem, he's not taken a lame step and he's very straightforward."

"He's done a bit of travelling, he came over from France and that didn't bother him.
I know he's only four and Cue Card is the only four-year-old to win it but plenty have run well in it.
He ticks all the boxes and now we're just hoping the ground isn't too fast."
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 28, 2013 10:31 PM GMT
Twitter

Davy Russell says Moyle Park doesn't run in the Champion Bumper. Goes for the Landrover. He's heard Clondaw Court is Mullins best runner.
Report Cliftonhill Albion February 28, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
Twitter

Davy Russell says Moyle Park doesn't run in the Champion Bumper. Goes for the Landrover. He's heard Clondaw Court is Mullins best runner.


Strange how this one has been shortening all day, to admittedly small money.
Report BJG February 28, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
Clondaw Court driftin like a leg has fallen off tonight
Report Cliftonhill Albion February 28, 2013 11:45 PM GMT
Surely Mr Mullins wouldn't say one thing yet do another?
Report Tory February 28, 2013 11:55 PM GMT
And money is lining up for Moyle Park......
Report TITCH 1 February 28, 2013 11:56 PM GMT
Does anyone know if Our Pollyanna is an intended runner ?

Hoping King can have a decent festival this year.
Report Cliftonhill Albion March 1, 2013 10:38 AM GMT
Drift on Clondaw Court looks bad now.
Report ChildOfMine2 March 1, 2013 12:01 PM GMT
Danny Mullins said at a preview last night that while Patrick thinks Clondaw Court is the best of the bumper team, he is not  a certain runner. Union Dues did a very good piece of work earlier in the week!
Report illinois_riki March 1, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
now that's a novel idea - put a bit of doubt that it will run let it drift and then back it off the boards.  Methinks this will run and win - stated to be 3 mile chaser in the making so similar profile to some of his previous winners
Report cmacedin March 1, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
Still time folks to get some cash on Regal Encore at current odds.
Report bagnall82 March 1, 2013 4:45 PM GMT
I'm Fraam Govan, could not help being taken by his performance in a worcester bumper last may winning hard held from Easter day who is looking like a fair horse now, his run at lingfield(aw) needs a line putting through it imo, I feel this could be a special animal, will prob run at southwell on good ground mon. At 100 on here iv had a few pennies. Sir Alex owns and this horse crossed the line to win his bumper just as aguero clinched the title for city
Report Catch Me ifyoucan March 1, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
Barry rides Blackmail - live on atr now
Report DECALEC March 1, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
harvey said that last night in armagh sorry shud of posted that along wit other stuffBlush
Report SN02 March 2, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
Praying c court turns up !
Report SN02 March 2, 2013 8:29 PM GMT
Cc not going to cheltenham
Report BJG March 2, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
Clondaw Court Out
Report Dan Chipowski March 2, 2013 8:34 PM GMT
Clondaw Court to miss the Cheltenham bumper with a hind quarter problem. In Willie Mullins Racing Post column.
Report BJG March 2, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
Well done CC layers Plain
Report duncan idaho March 3, 2013 9:50 AM GMT
SN02
02 Mar 13 19:12

Praying c court turns up




let that be a lesson....there is no God!
Report Tory March 3, 2013 5:57 PM GMT
Is it just me but did GOLANTILLA look as slow as a boat then?
Report Slabster March 3, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
Not just you Tory!
Report chief dan March 3, 2013 6:10 PM GMT
wouldnt back that with anyones money FACT!Crazy
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby March 3, 2013 6:12 PM GMT
factor in the 10ilb penalty Danny Mullins is as well Mischief
Report mightymoyes March 3, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
what did yous make of shield today?
Report bellfunk March 3, 2013 8:58 PM GMT
Liked it a lot, good ew 25-1 shot imo
Report Ramruma March 4, 2013 7:52 AM GMT
Shield? No. When arguably the world's greatest trainer has a 25/1 shot as his first string, no. When arguably the world's greatest hype merchant says, "hopefully we're going there to be competitive," no.
Report duncan idaho March 4, 2013 10:44 AM GMT
in fairness, the usual hype generally regards potential stallion prospects...not much point hyping up a gelding
Report roobuck March 4, 2013 11:05 AM GMT
Really good point Duncan and I cannot imagine aob bothering unless it had a realistic chance.
Report Ramruma March 4, 2013 11:20 AM GMT
Bumper horses are changing hands for £300-£500,000 a pop, so there is every incentive for connections to hype up their hosses.
Report roobuck March 4, 2013 11:57 AM GMT
Equally good point and on seeing who the owner is I can see the argument.
Report Ramruma March 4, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
That said, given the number of runners in the Champion Bumper who go on to win Graded races, perhaps a degree of confidence is to be expected.
Report Ramruma March 4, 2013 12:24 PM GMT
I make it 84 subesequent Graded race winners since Florida Pearl won in 1996. Maybe Nick Mordin was right and instead of betting in the bumper, we should study the race for future champions.
Report Ramruma March 4, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
Shield cut across the board except by Ladbrokes, which may be significant.
Report differentdrum March 4, 2013 3:11 PM GMT
If that was the best Golantilla could manage in yesterday's gallop probably not the only bit of hot air circulating around this race.
Report BJG March 4, 2013 3:16 PM GMT
Was a shocking race Shield won yest i thought
Report Try My Best March 5, 2013 11:54 AM GMT
Nicholls horse owned by John Hales has apparently improved bucketloads from it's debut ( would need to do ).Have had a few shillings on at 33s with a lot of uncertainty around the top of the market and a race Nicholls has said he would dearly love to win.
Report The Sawyer March 5, 2013 1:11 PM GMT
I see the "boy" is to ride Shield.
Report Deise59 March 5, 2013 1:52 PM GMT
Anybody know who rides Le Vent D'Antan? Who prefer Mikey Fogarty to some of the so called pro's that end up riding in this race, I see Hughes to ride for Channon
Report Slabster March 5, 2013 2:11 PM GMT
Mikey Fogarty rides Le Vent D'Antan Deise.
Report alleged22 March 5, 2013 2:23 PM GMT
Nicholls horse owned by John Hales has apparently improved bucketloads from it's debut ( would need to do ).Have had a few shillings on at 33s with a lot of uncertainty around the top of the market and a race Nicholls has said he would dearly love to win.


Shhhhh Wink
Report cmacedin March 7, 2013 9:36 AM GMT
Is it today that the final 24 runners are declared?
Report BJG March 7, 2013 12:45 PM GMT
Be Bop Boru (IRE)    6       11 5
Blackmail (FR)    5       11 5
Briar Hill (IRE)    5       11 5
Caledonia (GB)    6       11 5
Doctor Harper (IRE)    5       11 5
Drumlee (IRE)    5       11 5
Empiracle (IRE)    6       11 5
Fascino Rustico (GB)    5       11 5
Gallant Tipp (IRE)    5       11 5
Golantilla (IRE)    5       11 5
Hellorboston (IRE)    5       11 5
I'm Fraam Govan (GB)    5       11 5
Kayf Moss (GB)    5       11 5
Milo Man (IRE)    5       11 5
Mister Nibbles (IRE)    5       11 5
Monkey Kingdom (GB)    5       11 5
Posiden Sea (FR)    5       11 5
Pure Science (IRE)    5       11 5
Regal Encore (IRE)    5       11 5
Sgt Reckless (GB)    6       11 5
Sizing Tennessee (IRE)    5       11 5
The Clock Leary (IRE)    5       11 5
The Liquidator (GB)    5       11 5
Union Dues (FR)    5       11 5
Unowhatimeanharry (GB)    5       11 5
Centasia (GB)    6       10 12
Our Pollyanna (IRE)    6       10 12
Johnny Og (GB)    4       10 11
Le Vent d'Antan (FR)    4       10 11
Purple Bay (IRE)    4       10 11
Shield (IRE)    4       10 11
Vieux Lion Rouge (FR)    4       10 11
Vinstar (FR)    4       10 11
Yes Sir Brian (IRE)    4       10 11
Lady Lectra (GB)    4       10 4
Report differentdrum March 7, 2013 2:07 PM GMT
I see McCain scratched Diamond King. Seems a bit strange considering he falls into the 'could be anything' category having registered a win that was as impressive as anything that is entered. Add to that the owners are hardly backward in targeting the major prizes.
Report Tory March 7, 2013 2:52 PM GMT
Anyone know is milo man is an intended runner?
Report Brooksielad March 7, 2013 7:26 PM GMT
I'm fraam govan looks interesting that form beating easter day easily looks very strong, his last run was poor but think you can excuse that run, 50/1 is a very fair price.
Report morpteh mackem March 7, 2013 7:32 PM GMT
just noticed 5 out of last 10 winners, their names begin with ' c ' Plain. one for the stats men.
Report Kingchip March 7, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
Does anyone know who will ride Golantilla?
Report BJG March 7, 2013 10:32 PM GMT
Danny Mullins
Report Kingchip March 7, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
Is he up to the job?

Thanks
Report DECALEC March 7, 2013 10:47 PM GMT
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Is he up to the job?PROBABLY BUT ITS THE HORSE THAT DOES THE RUNNINGCrazy
Report Tory March 7, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
FWIW, just been to a preview evening where Paul jones said that the horse which cruised up to benefficient on Sunday wasn't Ted Veale, and was actually blackmail. If that's the case then he looks mighty impressive
Report The_LUFCwaffe March 7, 2013 11:53 PM GMT
Mr Mackem

that stat on horses names beginning with C may not hit the back of the net this year. the most likely on the C's, Centasia is set to carry 26st......if the RP website is to be believed :0  that may hinder the horse coming up the hill :)
Report morpteh mackem March 8, 2013 6:43 AM GMT
Laugh
Report Ramruma March 8, 2013 11:57 AM GMT
Golantilla out?
Report BJG March 8, 2013 12:08 PM GMT
Why?

Nt been matched at any big odds Confused
Report Ramruma March 8, 2013 12:10 PM GMT
Golantilla laid off the boards -- someone asking for 1000.
Report BJG March 8, 2013 12:13 PM GMT
Nt been matched over 10 tho and has nt been much money up lookin to get on it since the bad work last week
Report Kingchip March 8, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
Flip flopping on the exchange for small money.....took another bit of 11s.   

Any more news from the stable?
Report unclepuncle March 9, 2013 8:43 AM GMT
Big drift on Empiracle this morning.
Report Fallen Angel March 9, 2013 9:19 AM GMT
Empiracle looks like he might be out from the price move. Shame because I had a nice book position before that. I can't find any twitter updates to confirm or deny.
Report BJG March 9, 2013 9:28 AM GMT
Out to 50 Shocked
Report BJG March 9, 2013 9:29 AM GMT
Scoped badly this morning apparently
Report theboyfrommatebeleland March 9, 2013 10:17 AM GMT
Its intersting that bad bit of work by Golantilla-so a Tony Martin horse worked badly in public?There is only one answer to that?
Report BJG March 9, 2013 10:56 AM GMT
Back into 10 Shocked
Report BJG March 9, 2013 1:44 PM GMT
Empiracle out
Report cmacedin March 9, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
Now I gave this horse a few weeks ago as something special.It's still to win but check out the price now
Report joondalup March 10, 2013 7:27 AM GMT
ok can someone give me a clue to what cmacedin is on about
Report unclepuncle March 10, 2013 8:58 AM GMT
Regal Encore
Report Catch Me ifyoucan March 10, 2013 7:38 PM GMT
"That was great to get another one before Cheltenham, that will keep us confident before going there.

I'm delighted to get that win as his aim all year has been the Irish National. We stepped him up in trip to make sure he stays and Brian (O'Connell) said that 3m 5f would be no problem. I'm not sure what weight he would get but he should definitely get into it now. Hopefully we will get rain as he wouldn't want it any drier than today." - Liz Doyle, trainer of 4yo Le Vent D'Antan (after her 'Rich Revival' won in Naas today).
Report Catch Me ifyoucan March 10, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
Empiracle (7), Le Vent DAntan (7), Golantilla (8), Union Dues (8), Regal Encore (10), Sgt Reckless (10), Blackmail (12), Shield (16), Drumlee (20), Fascino Rustico (20), Briar Hill (25), Milo Man (25), Purple Bay (25), Sizing Tennessee (25), The Liquidator (25), Vieux Lion Rouge (25), Doctor Harper (28), Gallant Tipp (33), Hellorboston (40), Johnny Og (40)
Report Catch Me ifyoucan March 10, 2013 8:11 PM GMT
ANYONE have a look at the clock/times of the races some of these have won.

I see Union Dues beat 4yo Champ James in a Navan (Grade 2 bumper !) in 4:29.7 on heavy.
(Champ James previous winning time at the same track/conditions was 4:10.6)
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