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20 Nov 10 16:19
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This could be a very very interesting recruit and entered in 2 races at Newbury. I read an article with NJH quoted as stating the Arkle the target which did suprise a tad given longer distance options. I must confess have nibbled the 33's that are available in a few places. Any thoughts? was a solid hurdler and a much more obvious chaser. I hate backing chasers before they jump a fence but got a good feeling and from a value perspective too tempting.

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By:
Howdi
When: 20 Nov 10 17:27
stable novice to follow.
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 20 Nov 10 17:31
Plenty to like about it on paper...i look forward to Newbury. Cheers
By:
Alvarado
When: 20 Nov 10 18:19
which article was that cos i read in mark howards book that 2m4f was his distance which i think is stupid he was cruising 3 out in the ballymore and dident get home nor did he get home in the challow over 2m ridden forcefully he could be very exciting.the arkle market needs a good performance cant have ghizao at all not enough class
By:
dananderson
When: 20 Nov 10 18:33
problem is trainer cant train a horse to jump
By:
BJG
When: 20 Nov 10 19:42
Really like this horse but cant back it as i believe it wil go for the 2m4f race
By:
flyingbolt
When: 20 Nov 10 20:01
Dananders

One day you will post something that isn't complete tripe.

I wont hold my breath.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 20 Nov 10 20:05
walofs Dananders, his horses generally jump well and they dont he wont send them chasing.

I see the horse is entered over 2m1f & 2m4f at newbury next week.
By:
R Carver
When: 20 Nov 10 20:09
IS, dont get drawn in by dananderson, he either talks through his pocket or talks garbage, main reason why a few lads post on here less than they did.
By:
flyingbolt
When: 20 Nov 10 20:28
R Carver
Surely a complete simpleton  such as Dananders wouldn't put off any serious posters ?
By:
R Carver
When: 20 Nov 10 20:34
Grin

Don't know how to reply to that.... !

For every DA there are 10 good posters, true, but the lunatics do get a little tiring..
By:
duffy
When: 21 Nov 10 14:08
very much looking forward to seeing him translate the way he travelled through his races over hurdles, to fences, encouraging that geraghty is raving about him....fingers crossed for next week.
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Nov 10 14:55
i've had a small bet on him for the Arkle at 33/1.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 21 Nov 10 18:23
I'm on for the Arkle from a few months ago and although the new 2m4f race is a potential spanner in the works I still envisage the Arkle as the ideal race for him  - assuming he can translate his hurdles form over the larger obstacles.
By:
eric_morris
When: 21 Nov 10 19:24
Only worry with Finian's Rainbow is he has only run in decent opposition twice and been done for toe in both which wouldnt be a good sign for an Arkle. In lesser company he has won as you would expect but when asked to step up on that he hasnt been able to. Beat a Curley favourite amongst his wins. Can see him and Celestial Halo taking each other on in the 2m 4f new novice chase at the Festival where this turn of foot doesnt need to be so pronounced.

1    Peddlers Cross (IRE)  11-7  J M Maguire  D McCain Jnr  5 7/1 
  in touch on inside, smooth headway approaching 2 out, soon ridden to chase leading pair, led last, stayed on well opened 6/1 touched 7/1 £35000-£5000 Each Way £7000-£1000 £3500-£500 
2   1½ Reve de Sivola (FR)  11-7  D Jacob  Nick Williams  5 15/2 
  tracked leaders, hit 6th, went 2nd after 4 out, challenged when left in lead 2 out, soon ridden, headed last, kept on flat opened 9/1 touched 9/1 
3   3¾ Rite Of Passage  11-7  Mr R P McNamara  D K Weld  6 7/2 f
  tracked leaders, switched to outside and effort 3 out, challenged when left 2nd next, soon ridden, kept on same pace flat opened 4/1 touched 4/1 £4500-£1000 £20000-£5000 £16000-£4000 £8000-£2000 (x3) £4000-£1000 (x5) £3200-£800 £2000-£500 (x8) £17500-£5000 £14000-£4000 (x2) 
4   ¾ Summit Meeting  11-7  R M Power  Mrs J Harrington  5 10/1 
  mid-division, headway on inside 3 out, ridden to chase leaders next, kept on same pace flat opened 10/1 touched 10/1 
5   ¾ Finian's Rainbow (IRE)  11-7  B J Geraghty  N J Henderson  7 11/2 
  mid-division, headway to track leaders 4 out, effort when left 3rd briefly 2 out, soon ridden and one pace approaching last opened 11/2 touched 6/1 £15000-£2500 Each Way £6000-£1000 £2400-£400 Each Way £11000-£2000 Each Way £11000-£2000 £5000-£900 £2750-£500 
6   nk The Giant Bolster  11-7  R Greene  D G Bridgwater  5 200/1 
  mid-division on inside, lost place and behind 5th, headway when not fluent 3 out, ridden to chase leaders next, no impression flat opened 200/1 touched 200/1
By:
eric_morris
When: 21 Nov 10 19:26
I think we've already seen the Arkle winner run.
By:
eric_morris
When: 21 Nov 10 19:30
1    Reve de Sivola (FR)  11-7  D Jacob  Nick Williams  4 15/8 
  held up in mid-division, hit 5th, headway and hit 3 out, chased leaders after 2 out, challenged last, stayed on gamely to lead near finish opened 5/2 touched 5/2 £1100-£400 (x2) £1000-£400 (x2) £750-£300 
2   ½ Restless Harry  11-7  H Oliver  R Dickin  5 40/1 
  led, kept slight advantage when pressed from 3 out, narrowly headed last, rallied gamely under pressure run-in, went 2nd near finish opened 40/1 touched 40/1 
3   ½ Finian's Rainbow (IRE)  11-7  B J Geraghty  N J Henderson  6 13/8 f
  held up in touch, challenged from 2 out, led and hit last, headed towards finish, lost 2nd last strides opened 7/4 touched 7/4 £3000-£1600 £1500-£800 (x10) £937-£500 (x2) £750-£400 (x3) £3850-£2200 £1400-£800 (x8) £1050-£600 (x2) £700-£400 (x11) 
4   hd Kennel Hill (IRE)  11-7  S E Durack  W K Goldsworthy  7 22/1 
  pressed leader, hit 3 out, ridden after next, rallied gamely under pressure run-in opened 20/1 touched 22/1
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 21 Nov 10 19:55
I personally thought he travelled well in both the two races he lost, but just didn't see out the distance in either of them.

Drop back to 2 miles will suit imo.
By:
formboy
When: 21 Nov 10 21:17
According to trainer:

He is crying out for fences and I believe he will be very good. I would think that two and a half miles will be his trip.
By:
Alvarado
When: 21 Nov 10 23:43
he is not slow if u watched both his defeats last season he travelled great but dident last home .gergaghtys fav horse apparently
By:
duffy
When: 22 Nov 10 00:04
finians travelled the best horse in the race in the neptune...he got out stayed....and although you'd ideally need to stay further than 2 miles to win the arkle......i'm completely suckered into this horse because of the way i can imagine him travelling, hopefully with another year on his back he'll be able to get the extra half mile which will help him finish the 2 miles off effectively.
By:
_albuhera_
When: 22 Nov 10 04:19
Spirit River the stables Arkle horse for me
By:
Masterminded
When: 22 Nov 10 17:17
TBH I know it's same owner and trainer but both look Arkle horses to me and if anything Spirit River would be more comfortable over further.
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 22 Nov 10 19:28
I should have referenced the Article..It was in the T imes Stable inteview about a weeks ago. NJH said something along the lines of you might be be suprised but I am aiming Finians Rainbow at the Arkle as think he is more of a 2m horse...plenty of speed etc. I am a fan of OJA and saw the 2m 4 quote but it was from the summer and this was days ago. I guess the Newbury race selection will be interesting but will not give hope if runs in 2m 4 as could still drop back. I just like the look at 33's
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 22 Nov 10 19:35
one last think for an earlier poster

2009-10

Hurdle 25%
Chase 28%

If only he could train jumpers.....
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 23 Nov 10 20:05
2mile race and Barry on board...yipeee the dream is still alive
By:
dananderson
When: 23 Nov 10 21:50
im sorry when do i talk thropugh my pocket? but it seems that most of hendersons higher class horses are dodgy jumpers . cant beat royal charm anyway this thing wouldnt put me off that nicholls is saying arkle not the right race thats garbage
By:
Alvarado
When: 23 Nov 10 23:29
dandanderson is very bias to paul nicholls
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 24 Nov 10 11:02
3 runner race tomorrow at newbury Plain
By:
Masterminded
When: 24 Nov 10 18:58
4-7 bank job Plain
By:
mythical prince
When: 24 Nov 10 19:19
not convinced i'd want to go in full bank job on any horse making it's chase debut. let alone one faced with a serious rival in sang bleu. i'd rather back it in-running once it's jumped a few even if your'e taking a shorter price.

If you don't believe me take a look at this foineggas or however you spell it in ireland a few days back, got sent off 1.5 and didn't even make it past the first fence!

tommorows bank job is tell massini, jumped super at stratford.
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 24 Nov 10 19:29
I have a nice lump for the Arkle but not a chance would back at odds on..why? first time and can improve and still win the Arkle.
By:
tweedledumbtweedletwat
When: 24 Nov 10 23:07
could be arkle fav after tomoro if putting up a good show....question is ...is it the best in stable?
buckley could have fr in the arkle,surfing in the 2.5m and sriver in the rsa,or his dads race...exciting times
By:
duffy
When: 25 Nov 10 13:44
one dodgy jump...but on the whole...mightily impressive i'd say.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 25 Nov 10 13:56
A most pleasing debut - got in close to one or two down the back and brushed through the top, but he really flew the fences in the straight especially the water jumpBlush
By:
Howdi
When: 25 Nov 10 14:01
Im on him at flashy prices but 2nd fav now after beating nothing much is over doing it. More to do with lack of form of some of the principles.
By:
Alvarado
When: 25 Nov 10 14:03
hardly beat nothing wasant hells bay 2nd to time for rupert the other day yet fininas just steamrolled him and sang bleu is very highely regarded by nicholls .excellent debut over fences id prefer him to ghizao any day of the week
By:
unclepuncle
When: 25 Nov 10 14:12
Howdi - it was my opinion before any of this seasons novices had jumped a fence that he was the most likely winner of the Arkle (and therefore in my book he'd have been favourite). Thnakfully the bookies and layers on here didn't agree so I have some decent looking bets between 30-40Grin.

Now he has showed he is alive and well and can jump a fence at speed I don't see anthting wrong with him being 2nd fav.
By:
duffy
When: 25 Nov 10 14:12
oh good god...ghizao is the latest version of loosen my load....plenty better hurdlers than him to come over fences...i know it's a differen thing jumping fences...but i'd be surprised if ghizao isn't a good few notches down the pecking order come march....plus murphy got off him and said he is ground dependant and needs it soft.
By:
Howdi
When: 25 Nov 10 14:27
agree uncle buthad the main players turned up (and they still might) on his hurdles form 2nd fav looks tad high for me that said im on at same prices as you as i thought he was few points too high in the market.
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