New Posts For Thread: un de sceaux champion chasehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chaseWith the going now likely to be soft maybe heavy dont you think the 2mile option would be better as i dnt think he will stay the longer trip with its free running style especially with the ground testing , plus for the pure spectical of him trying toI think,finally!!!,its time to put this to bed.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554404755#554404755I think,finally!!!,its time to put this to bed.Sat, 05 May 2018 00:50:04 -0500Ok Budd, French form doesn't do it for you. Neither do RPRs or actual handicap ratings.So here is my opinion of how UDS' Cheltenham CV would look were he not trained by WP Mullins but were instead trained by Buddeliea and lets assume you are just ashttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554402929#554402929Ok Budd, French form doesn't do it for you. Neither do RPRs or actual handicap ratings.So here is my opinion of how UDS' Cheltenham CV would look were he not trained by WP Mullins but were instead trained by Buddeliea and lets assume you are just asFri, 04 May 2018 17:59:41 -0500As i have said, i have no interest in his french form. Imo hes best at 2 miles not 2 and a half,where he can bowl along at his pace he enjoys and have something left for the finish.Its the distance hes most comfortable at imo,and where he produces hihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554400455#554400455As i have said, i have no interest in his french form. Imo hes best at 2 miles not 2 and a half,where he can bowl along at his pace he enjoys and have something left for the finish.Its the distance hes most comfortable at imo,and where he produces hiFri, 04 May 2018 12:17:15 -0500Well he ran almost exactly to the same level in France, the only difference was that he now had some meaningful competition to compare with,so his French form was more significant than his Irish form.He achieved his highest hurdle mark,164, 2 years lhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554398089#554398089Well he ran almost exactly to the same level in France, the only difference was that he now had some meaningful competition to compare with,so his French form was more significant than his Irish form.He achieved his highest hurdle mark,164, 2 years lFri, 04 May 2018 07:49:12 -0500Tbf to Budd we can never be certainAnd thats been my thing ever since i started on this umpteen years ago!!I thought when he won his Grade 2 in Feb,he should then have been stepped up to Grade 1 company a month later at Cheltenham,nothing i have seenhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554396403#554396403Tbf to Budd we can never be certainAnd thats been my thing ever since i started on this umpteen years ago!!I thought when he won his Grade 2 in Feb,he should then have been stepped up to Grade 1 company a month later at Cheltenham,nothing i have seenFri, 04 May 2018 01:10:08 -0500Besides he didnt have the hurdling experience to win the Ch Hurdle that year either and we know what happens when inexperienced hurdlers take on the big boyshttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554391391#554391391Besides he didnt have the hurdling experience to win the Ch Hurdle that year either and we know what happens when inexperienced hurdlers take on the big boysThu, 03 May 2018 11:52:03 -0500It wont be put to bed until someone steals Budd's bone. Tbf to Budd we can never be certain. I agree 2 miles is/was his ideal distance but it was never soft enough for him to win either of those two races.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554391369#554391369It wont be put to bed until someone steals Budd's bone. Tbf to Budd we can never be certain. I agree 2 miles is/was his ideal distance but it was never soft enough for him to win either of those two races.Thu, 03 May 2018 11:47:20 -0500Agree 100% with cyclops here. I thought this had been put to bed long ago but it seems not.In March 2014 UDS was rated 156 and he ran to a pound of this rating every time he raced. He had no idea how to race at this time and ran flat out from the sthttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554386537#554386537Agree 100% with cyclops here. I thought this had been put to bed long ago but it seems not.In March 2014 UDS was rated 156 and he ran to a pound of this rating every time he raced. He had no idea how to race at this time and ran flat out from the stWed, 02 May 2018 16:47:58 -0500What piece (or pieces) of form, budd, would you unearth that would have given UDS the remotest chance of winning a Champion Hurdle?Best hurdle rating of 164 and never faced a top class opponent as far as I know. Also, never ran over hurdles on anythihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554380965#554380965What piece (or pieces) of form, budd, would you unearth that would have given UDS the remotest chance of winning a Champion Hurdle?Best hurdle rating of 164 and never faced a top class opponent as far as I know. Also, never ran over hurdles on anythiWed, 02 May 2018 06:17:00 -0500As they ran in different races at different distances....no comparism.I have already stated I think hes best at 2m, so I would never crab running in the QM.They have a done a good job as far as prizemoney for the owners, but imo they could have hadhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30995263/un-de-sceaux-champion-chase?post_id=554284171#554284171As they ran in different races at different distances....no comparism.I have already stated I think hes best at 2m, so I would never crab running in the QM.They have a done a good job as far as prizemoney for the owners, but imo they could have hadWed, 25 Apr 2018 06:24:22 -0500