New Posts For Thread: Irish handicappers at Cheltenhamhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenhamGiven all the whingeing beforehand about Irish horses being unfairly handicapped by Phil Smith, I thought I'd have a look at their Festival performance. The Irish won 70% of the handicaps with 26% of the entries.http://www.britishhorseracing.com/cheltenham-festival-2017-head-handicapping-blog/https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551465737#551465737http://www.britishhorseracing.com/cheltenham-festival-2017-head-handicapping-blog/Tue, 21 Mar 2017 12:55:05 -0500Phil Smith and his crew have been over-rating British horses for yearscorrect"ratings creep" they call itfor clarity, that's when the horse population average ratings increases over time, not phil smithhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551465439#551465439Phil Smith and his crew have been over-rating British horses for yearscorrect"ratings creep" they call itfor clarity, that's when the horse population average ratings increases over time, not phil smithTue, 21 Mar 2017 12:12:03 -0500"Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races."What would be the point of handicaps if the best horses always won them? The handicapping system is supposed to create a level playing field. You dhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551463431#551463431"Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races."What would be the point of handicaps if the best horses always won them? The handicapping system is supposed to create a level playing field. You dTue, 21 Mar 2017 04:15:51 -0500......... The most important part of a trainers job is to get them to peak in March.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551461319#551461319......... The most important part of a trainers job is to get them to peak in March.Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:48:59 -0500If the Irish felt their horses had been unfairly treated despite their winning consistently might I suggest they come over prior to Cheltenham and run in at least two handicapped races?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551461189#551461189If the Irish felt their horses had been unfairly treated despite their winning consistently might I suggest they come over prior to Cheltenham and run in at least two handicapped races?Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:21:57 -0500Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races.Erm, that would explain *why* Phil Smith needs to add a few pounds.For what it is worth, here are the Grade 1 results showing where winners were bredhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551458929#551458929Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races.Erm, that would explain *why* Phil Smith needs to add a few pounds.For what it is worth, here are the Grade 1 results showing where winners were bredMon, 20 Mar 2017 06:08:38 -0500"Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races."https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551458921#551458921"Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races."Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:58:20 -0500I'm not surprised by the fact that they have a better strike-rate than the % of runners, but the difference is huge. I would expect that those horses are sent over are there to win, and not just for a big day out for connections, because of the efforhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551452975#551452975I'm not surprised by the fact that they have a better strike-rate than the % of runners, but the difference is huge. I would expect that those horses are sent over are there to win, and not just for a big day out for connections, because of the efforSun, 19 Mar 2017 09:43:42 -0500I don't think there is much to choose between the UK and Irish in the Grade 1 races.However, the fiddling of the Irish makes a mockery of the handicapping. To bleat like a lamb pre the festival and to win most of the races despite a huge numerical dihttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551450297#551450297I don't think there is much to choose between the UK and Irish in the Grade 1 races.However, the fiddling of the Irish makes a mockery of the handicapping. To bleat like a lamb pre the festival and to win most of the races despite a huge numerical diSat, 18 Mar 2017 18:51:13 -0500Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30832859/irish-handicappers-at-cheltenham?post_id=551448323#551448323Or maybe, just maybe Irish horses are just better as proven time and time again in the grade 1 races.Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:00:41 -0500