New Posts For Thread: tom .s gold cup pickhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pickoutlander 20/1 in lads hills shops 9 amLast para should say..I dont want to lose that 7.5 units (12.5/1 instead of 20/1) for my horse winning the race to trade it in for 2 units to place but not win.If it starts at 16/1 and wins the e/w bet (12.5/1) is bad value but the single bet (20/1)https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550884997#550884997Last para should say..I dont want to lose that 7.5 units (12.5/1 instead of 20/1) for my horse winning the race to trade it in for 2 units to place but not win.If it starts at 16/1 and wins the e/w bet (12.5/1) is bad value but the single bet (20/1)Fri, 13 Jan 2017 06:04:17 -0600Suppose it is a personal thing.I would prefer not to wait say 3 months for the race with the odds of not getting there and the place part of the bet both built in to the price dragging my true win odds down at the start of those 3 months to only halfhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550884915#550884915Suppose it is a personal thing.I would prefer not to wait say 3 months for the race with the odds of not getting there and the place part of the bet both built in to the price dragging my true win odds down at the start of those 3 months to only halfFri, 13 Jan 2017 05:53:20 -0600i dont back each way on singles whatever the price ,but i always stick an each way acca on 4 or 5 festival races usually nearer the start on non runner no bet ,and have had some decent returns on just the place side of the bet ,had 1 winner and 3 plahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550884833#550884833i dont back each way on singles whatever the price ,but i always stick an each way acca on 4 or 5 festival races usually nearer the start on non runner no bet ,and have had some decent returns on just the place side of the bet ,had 1 winner and 3 plaFri, 13 Jan 2017 05:33:24 -0600I place plenty of antepost bets e/w myself. Nothing worse than spotting a horse that is 20/1 and see it be backed all the way down to favouritism only to finish second or third imo. I record all my bets and have been more profitable backing them e/whttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550884743#550884743I place plenty of antepost bets e/w myself. Nothing worse than spotting a horse that is 20/1 and see it be backed all the way down to favouritism only to finish second or third imo. I record all my bets and have been more profitable backing them e/wFri, 13 Jan 2017 05:14:43 -0600Yeah eric last years was even better, Sprinter @25/1 is a well known one on here especially after baldy bet tried to welch on the bet and pay out at only 16/1, soon got that sorted though thanks to someone on here.Love the Cheltenham fez, it is uniquhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550883851#550883851Yeah eric last years was even better, Sprinter @25/1 is a well known one on here especially after baldy bet tried to welch on the bet and pay out at only 16/1, soon got that sorted though thanks to someone on here.Love the Cheltenham fez, it is uniquFri, 13 Jan 2017 02:52:04 -0600Nice portfolio SEATHESTARS great fun having so much interest in a wide range of races at the Festival. Like kids in a sweetie shop with all the high quality fayre that week.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550881235#550881235Nice portfolio SEATHESTARS great fun having so much interest in a wide range of races at the Festival. Like kids in a sweetie shop with all the high quality fayre that week.Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:47:24 -0600So having an antepost each way bet on the Graded races with stronger favourites where outsiders are less likely to shorten by a large amount is more likely to give you bad value on the day if your horse wins the race than an antepost single would.Thehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550880941#550880941So having an antepost each way bet on the Graded races with stronger favourites where outsiders are less likely to shorten by a large amount is more likely to give you bad value on the day if your horse wins the race than an antepost single would.TheThu, 12 Jan 2017 18:01:02 -0600Another factor is those horses who are most likely to win the non handicap races will never be much of an each way price and remain in single figures. In these races due to the strength of the fav, horses around the 20/1 price may not have as much chhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550880833#550880833Another factor is those horses who are most likely to win the non handicap races will never be much of an each way price and remain in single figures. In these races due to the strength of the fav, horses around the 20/1 price may not have as much chThu, 12 Jan 2017 17:48:41 -0600So we have the 20/1 shot is say 1/4 to get there on the day with the odds of the second leg of the antepost each way double as follows9.8/1 to win the race and 1.4/1 to place but not win This is compared to the second leg of a single bet (not each wahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550880609#550880609So we have the 20/1 shot is say 1/4 to get there on the day with the odds of the second leg of the antepost each way double as follows9.8/1 to win the race and 1.4/1 to place but not win This is compared to the second leg of a single bet (not each waThu, 12 Jan 2017 17:25:43 -0600Another way to look at it is i keep my accounts open for longer, some even aren't even on the radar. I can see where your coming from though now and i will one year maybe just place win bets. I have read your post and dug out my portfolio from a couphttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30784981/tom-s-gold-cup-pick?post_id=550880515#550880515Another way to look at it is i keep my accounts open for longer, some even aren't even on the radar. I can see where your coming from though now and i will one year maybe just place win bets. I have read your post and dug out my portfolio from a coupThu, 12 Jan 2017 17:18:30 -0600