New Posts For Thread: Attempting Cheltenham/Aintree/Punchestownhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestownSuppose this is perhaps a one off for the Mullins runners as they wouldn't normally be sent to Aintree after Cheltenham, the majority are kept for Punchestown.Seems a big ask to attempt all 3 within a short timescale especially when you take into accI think Pineau De Re was the first to even win a race and then Many Clouds first to win a chase There's no denying NH racing is a much harder sport than flat and some jumps horses with flat pedigree don't take it well but most horses improve with rahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548528871#548528871I think Pineau De Re was the first to even win a race and then Many Clouds first to win a chase There's no denying NH racing is a much harder sport than flat and some jumps horses with flat pedigree don't take it well but most horses improve with raWed, 27 Apr 2016 17:11:22 -0500re Vautour - I basically agree with timtin - looked for all the world like a horse beaten by the trip for me - anyway we were told he was too heavy for both his first two races and he fell in the one of the other two before it got serious so I'm nothttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548528193#548528193re Vautour - I basically agree with timtin - looked for all the world like a horse beaten by the trip for me - anyway we were told he was too heavy for both his first two races and he fell in the one of the other two before it got serious so I'm notWed, 27 Apr 2016 16:12:08 -0500Douvan is intriguing in that he's attempting the novice version of the triple crown which supposedly did for Sprinter Sacre - I think they're right to run him personally - he's clearly showing his well being at home and for me they can't not run himhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548528059#548528059Douvan is intriguing in that he's attempting the novice version of the triple crown which supposedly did for Sprinter Sacre - I think they're right to run him personally - he's clearly showing his well being at home and for me they can't not run himWed, 27 Apr 2016 16:04:44 -0500Irish Cavalier is a bad example in my opinion - he's mostly been running on unsuitable ground or when his stable has been out of form or both.I've not seen today's race so can't comment but I will say I'm pretty sure Cue Card is much better going LHhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548527543#548527543Irish Cavalier is a bad example in my opinion - he's mostly been running on unsuitable ground or when his stable has been out of form or both.I've not seen today's race so can't comment but I will say I'm pretty sure Cue Card is much better going LHWed, 27 Apr 2016 15:37:57 -0500Not all horses are trained in the same way though. Some are lightly raced but worked hard at home. The horses that "thrive on racing" will definitely not be worked as hard at home.Take Mullins as an example. The way he trained his horses for Cheltenhhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548527131#548527131Not all horses are trained in the same way though. Some are lightly raced but worked hard at home. The horses that "thrive on racing" will definitely not be worked as hard at home.Take Mullins as an example. The way he trained his horses for CheltenhWed, 27 Apr 2016 15:01:40 -0500Irish Cavalier, 5th race in 4 months as well, it is a myth and most horses thrive on racing, horses with long seasons give enough signals at home for trainers not to bother sending them.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548525843#548525843Irish Cavalier, 5th race in 4 months as well, it is a myth and most horses thrive on racing, horses with long seasons give enough signals at home for trainers not to bother sending them.Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:50:14 -0500I think course and ground comes into play even more than people think, Punchestown is such a different track not many horses take to it. CC is one that showed signs last time that he wasn't still performing to his best, Brennan reported that he didn'https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548525589#548525589I think course and ground comes into play even more than people think, Punchestown is such a different track not many horses take to it. CC is one that showed signs last time that he wasn't still performing to his best, Brennan reported that he didn'Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:34:21 -0500One race too many for Cue Card as well it seems. Perhaps this "myth" isn't too far off reality after all timtin.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548525087#548525087One race too many for Cue Card as well it seems. Perhaps this "myth" isn't too far off reality after all timtin.Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:55:59 -0500"Speaking on Wednesday, Mullins said: "We just weren't 100 per cent happy with her over the last couple of days and decided not to declare her."The way Vautour and Yorkhill, who like her were at Aintree, performed on Tuesday was a factor in our decishttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548521453#548521453"Speaking on Wednesday, Mullins said: "We just weren't 100 per cent happy with her over the last couple of days and decided not to declare her."The way Vautour and Yorkhill, who like her were at Aintree, performed on Tuesday was a factor in our decisWed, 27 Apr 2016 07:30:16 -0500Annie Power who coincidentally has won at Cheltenham and Aintree has been ruled out of Punchestown as something is "not quite right with her". Hmmmmmm.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30684159/attempting-cheltenhamaintreepunchestown?post_id=548521441#548521441Annie Power who coincidentally has won at Cheltenham and Aintree has been ruled out of Punchestown as something is "not quite right with her". Hmmmmmm.Wed, 27 Apr 2016 07:28:13 -0500