New Posts For Thread: Vautour moving towards favourite for the Gold Cup.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cupThe quote below from Ruby on the RP site, looks a cert to ride Vautour, what price will he move into then ?"Vautour will be better left-handed and has been phenomenal around Cheltenham," Walsh said. "I should have held on more in the King George andVautour reminds me a lot of Kauto Star in possessing the same brilliance (probably not quite as good). Kauto Star was a real 3 miler whose class won him 2 Cheltenham Gold Cups. Vautour can do the same if he possesses the same class. Personally, I thhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548076571#548076571Vautour reminds me a lot of Kauto Star in possessing the same brilliance (probably not quite as good). Kauto Star was a real 3 miler whose class won him 2 Cheltenham Gold Cups. Vautour can do the same if he possesses the same class. Personally, I thMon, 14 Mar 2016 05:19:58 -0500Thought exactly the same Sankara. What a stupid thing to say.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548076497#548076497Thought exactly the same Sankara. What a stupid thing to say.Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:00:22 -0500I love the "nobody seems to have spotted it" comment. Pretty sure everybody spotted it, and plenty have mentioned it, but Ruby likes to think he's superior to ordinary mortals.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548076389#548076389I love the "nobody seems to have spotted it" comment. Pretty sure everybody spotted it, and plenty have mentioned it, but Ruby likes to think he's superior to ordinary mortals.Mon, 14 Mar 2016 04:14:54 -0500Can we really identify horses who could win over 3m at cheltenham but never 3m2 ?I know we get the whole 2 and half miler thing and i dont even go along with that most of the time, always comes back to the same half dozen horses, no doubt led by onehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074813#548074813Can we really identify horses who could win over 3m at cheltenham but never 3m2 ?I know we get the whole 2 and half miler thing and i dont even go along with that most of the time, always comes back to the same half dozen horses, no doubt led by oneSun, 13 Mar 2016 18:40:13 -0500He could be a One Man type, he could be a Best Mate type. And trying to figure it out makes this sport so appealing to us all. Most of the time we don't even get satisfactory resolutions but it still doesn't stop us.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074807#548074807He could be a One Man type, he could be a Best Mate type. And trying to figure it out makes this sport so appealing to us all. Most of the time we don't even get satisfactory resolutions but it still doesn't stop us.Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:39:19 -0500He could indeed be a One Man type. It's equally feasible he could be a Best Mate type who won three Gold Cups after first losing to a Gold Cup non stayer at Kempton on faster ground than Vautour encountered.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074653#548074653He could indeed be a One Man type. It's equally feasible he could be a Best Mate type who won three Gold Cups after first losing to a Gold Cup non stayer at Kempton on faster ground than Vautour encountered.Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:24:58 -0500One Man won the King George twice... by 12 lengths and by 14 lengths. Both of those years he ran in the Gold Cup and was cantering over the field both years(good ground) at the second last. He was beaten 23 lengths and 22 lengths. The following yearhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074605#548074605One Man won the King George twice... by 12 lengths and by 14 lengths. Both of those years he ran in the Gold Cup and was cantering over the field both years(good ground) at the second last. He was beaten 23 lengths and 22 lengths. The following yearSun, 13 Mar 2016 18:17:45 -0500Not true. Off the top of my head I can think of Wayward Lad, Florida Pearl and Strong Promise who would almost certainly have won a Gold Cup over 3 miles. The other obvious point being that Vautour hasn't yet proven he gets 3 miles at the course whichttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074431#548074431Not true. Off the top of my head I can think of Wayward Lad, Florida Pearl and Strong Promise who would almost certainly have won a Gold Cup over 3 miles. The other obvious point being that Vautour hasn't yet proven he gets 3 miles at the course whicSun, 13 Mar 2016 18:03:44 -0500Most of the people who bang on about stamina probably never been for a run in their life.If you can get three miles around a racecourse like cheltenham, then you can get three miles two.never ran around cheltenham but been around york. the spaces arehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074261#548074261Most of the people who bang on about stamina probably never been for a run in their life.If you can get three miles around a racecourse like cheltenham, then you can get three miles two.never ran around cheltenham but been around york. the spaces areSun, 13 Mar 2016 17:48:16 -0500I don't think he's a cert to do anything and that has to be factored in to the price. How far would he have won the King George if it were left handed on good ground? Factor in that he has almost certainly been trained to peak for this race and I wouhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30665209/vautour-moving-towards-favourite-for-the-gold-cup?post_id=548074087#548074087I don't think he's a cert to do anything and that has to be factored in to the price. How far would he have won the King George if it were left handed on good ground? Factor in that he has almost certainly been trained to peak for this race and I wouSun, 13 Mar 2016 17:34:03 -0500