New Posts For Thread: Vautour - why he should run in the Gold Cuphttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cupThis is just one view point, there are 18 fences at Kempton, and if he lost a minimum of half a length at each fence, jumping right. Add those back in and he beats cue card by 9 lengths. Had that of happened, he would be very short odds to win the goVautour must run in the Gold Cup otherwise it will be a 'walkover' for the two Dons!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547979425#547979425Vautour must run in the Gold Cup otherwise it will be a 'walkover' for the two Dons!Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:40:59 -0600I must have missed the 'Straw Clutching Stakes' last time I looked at the Cheltenham Festival card.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547976501#547976501I must have missed the 'Straw Clutching Stakes' last time I looked at the Cheltenham Festival card.Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:29:53 -0600just watched the race again, there were 4 fences out of the 18 that Vautour did not jump to the left. (Cue Card was carried left by vautour over three of those fences). Some of vautours left jumps were more pronounced that others, suspect that I mayhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962889#547962889just watched the race again, there were 4 fences out of the 18 that Vautour did not jump to the left. (Cue Card was carried left by vautour over three of those fences). Some of vautours left jumps were more pronounced that others, suspect that I mayTue, 01 Mar 2016 08:57:54 -0600Cue Card is also miles better at Cheltenham than Kempton so I wouldn't be hanging onto that if I had a Vautour voucherhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962835#547962835Cue Card is also miles better at Cheltenham than Kempton so I wouldn't be hanging onto that if I had a Vautour voucherTue, 01 Mar 2016 08:51:12 -0600be honest,two out you were telling anyone the new arkle has arrived,at the finish your first thought was he didnt stay,you then jumped on the r-h jumping bandwagon which admittiedly he did go slightly right at a few fences but that has now become evehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962733#547962733be honest,two out you were telling anyone the new arkle has arrived,at the finish your first thought was he didnt stay,you then jumped on the r-h jumping bandwagon which admittiedly he did go slightly right at a few fences but that has now become eveTue, 01 Mar 2016 08:40:43 -0600it's a trait that vautour had that the others in the race didn't have.At Cheltenham that disability is not there, so it's not jumping errors, and it should be considered.It's a handicap that he will not have at Cheltenham.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962539#547962539it's a trait that vautour had that the others in the race didn't have.At Cheltenham that disability is not there, so it's not jumping errors, and it should be considered.It's a handicap that he will not have at Cheltenham.Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:17:17 -0600There was one fence (I think it was the 3rd last) that he absolutely winged and didn't jump right at, and took about 2 lengths out of Cue Card. I'm sure I have read that Walsh has blamed himself for the defeat because he kicked too early but if you chttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962511#547962511There was one fence (I think it was the 3rd last) that he absolutely winged and didn't jump right at, and took about 2 lengths out of Cue Card. I'm sure I have read that Walsh has blamed himself for the defeat because he kicked too early but if you cTue, 01 Mar 2016 08:14:14 -0600and if don cossack had stood up he would have won by 3l and vautour would be running in the ryanair,all ifs and maybe'shttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962459#547962459and if don cossack had stood up he would have won by 3l and vautour would be running in the ryanair,all ifs and maybe'sTue, 01 Mar 2016 08:09:27 -0600Sorry cuthbert, but I think its crazy to look back at a race and then decide to 'add lengths' for better jumping. If only it was that easy.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962317#547962317Sorry cuthbert, but I think its crazy to look back at a race and then decide to 'add lengths' for better jumping. If only it was that easy.Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:52:14 -0600I am not convinced that Djakadam would win the Gold Cup.He is a good horse, but there are a lot of other good horses in the race.Just watched the King George again, add those lengths back in, ride him with more restraint, and he may have been a veryhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30660245/vautour---why-he-should-run-in-the-gold-cup?post_id=547962293#547962293I am not convinced that Djakadam would win the Gold Cup.He is a good horse, but there are a lot of other good horses in the race.Just watched the King George again, add those lengths back in, ride him with more restraint, and he may have been a veryTue, 01 Mar 2016 07:50:11 -0600