New Posts For Thread: Black Hercules drifting for NH Chasehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chaseout to 8.2 now. Going RSA or another Mullins favourite out of Cheltenham??aec is spot on, although it has been said many times before.Before Bobsworth no horse had won three different races at the Festival since Flyingbolt. This year we have three at the head of the market for the Gold Cup looking to emulate that and nexthttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547971499#547971499aec is spot on, although it has been said many times before.Before Bobsworth no horse had won three different races at the Festival since Flyingbolt. This year we have three at the head of the market for the Gold Cup looking to emulate that and nextWed, 02 Mar 2016 09:17:59 -0600I really like Black Hercules (he'd be in the RSA if he was mine) but I'd be very concerned about him on quicker ground (he's almost always run on heavy), and, on the back of a fall, I'd not be in any tearing hurry to be backing him in anything at thehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547971329#547971329I really like Black Hercules (he'd be in the RSA if he was mine) but I'd be very concerned about him on quicker ground (he's almost always run on heavy), and, on the back of a fall, I'd not be in any tearing hurry to be backing him in anything at theWed, 02 Mar 2016 09:04:28 -0600LUFC your right a nice bit of value lurking further down but i'm happy to wait myself although i'm getting twitchy on a couplehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547958051#547958051LUFC your right a nice bit of value lurking further down but i'm happy to wait myself although i'm getting twitchy on a coupleMon, 29 Feb 2016 13:57:47 -0600The top of the market is now populated by 6yo's (rarely win this....a lot pull up in the race) and older suspect stayers.Good value to be had lower down the market now. Local Show for me.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957813#547957813The top of the market is now populated by 6yo's (rarely win this....a lot pull up in the race) and older suspect stayers.Good value to be had lower down the market now. Local Show for me.Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:35:06 -0600think what is becoming pretty clear now, is that this yard needs to be treated with extreme caution when considering ante post without NRNB.It was bad enough in previous years,but the last couple of weeks its notched up to another level.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957711#547957711think what is becoming pretty clear now, is that this yard needs to be treated with extreme caution when considering ante post without NRNB.It was bad enough in previous years,but the last couple of weeks its notched up to another level.Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:23:24 -0600What a total nonsense school of thought. What's the point of Ruby wanting to ride a horse that imo has no chance and why would the owner allow this to happen. You can understand Ruby wanting a ride in the JLT but switching a horse with a favourites chttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957417#547957417What a total nonsense school of thought. What's the point of Ruby wanting to ride a horse that imo has no chance and why would the owner allow this to happen. You can understand Ruby wanting a ride in the JLT but switching a horse with a favourites cMon, 29 Feb 2016 12:44:31 -0600I think Pont Alexandre being poor might have forced their hand a bit too, as they were hoping he'd be Ruby's RSA horse.If More of That doesn't run, I think Outlander is much the best in the race.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957167#547957167I think Pont Alexandre being poor might have forced their hand a bit too, as they were hoping he'd be Ruby's RSA horse.If More of That doesn't run, I think Outlander is much the best in the race.Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:07:07 -0600yep 8/1 NRNB fair if you fancy him I suppose but only Skybet - why should he be shorter than Blaklion who has good chase course form, better collateral form, did n't fall last time out and is a definite runner?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957111#547957111yep 8/1 NRNB fair if you fancy him I suppose but only Skybet - why should he be shorter than Blaklion who has good chase course form, better collateral form, did n't fall last time out and is a definite runner?Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:02:30 -0600Not sure 8/1 nrnb is short. I thought 12s looked huge. Just my opinionhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957067#547957067Not sure 8/1 nrnb is short. I thought 12s looked huge. Just my opinionMon, 29 Feb 2016 11:58:08 -0600Thought RSA was right race after he won at Doncaster but if you look at the collateral through Definitly Red, Blaklion's form looks better than BH's. It's a flat pedigree but if you look at the strike rate of the Sire progeny and the Damsire progenyhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30659379/black-hercules-drifting-for-nh-chase?post_id=547957041#547957041Thought RSA was right race after he won at Doncaster but if you look at the collateral through Definitly Red, Blaklion's form looks better than BH's. It's a flat pedigree but if you look at the strike rate of the Sire progeny and the Damsire progenyMon, 29 Feb 2016 11:53:20 -0600