New Posts For Thread: Discussion about RW ride on VL has got me thinking (nothing to do with RW)https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rwopta (and others presumably) are starting to provide science to a footballers performance that adds a little objectivity to what has always been a largely subjective assessment. I would like to see the same science added to jockeys. Of course there wPut RW on Don Cossack (DC), and DC will be a short price 'fav'!https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547739957#547739957Put RW on Don Cossack (DC), and DC will be a short price 'fav'!Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:08:19 -0600^^^true^^^ given why the hunch factor has weight. Lol. Game of opinions.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547738725#547738725^^^true^^^ given why the hunch factor has weight. Lol. Game of opinions.Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:23:09 -0600fall/ride ratio wouldn't tell the whole story though, how could you find data on how jockeys behave when coming to the last couple of fences, asking horses up or sitting still, whether a horse falls or not, a race can be given away simply by a less thttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547738277#547738277fall/ride ratio wouldn't tell the whole story though, how could you find data on how jockeys behave when coming to the last couple of fences, asking horses up or sitting still, whether a horse falls or not, a race can be given away simply by a less tMon, 08 Feb 2016 10:36:02 -0600I am certain data on fall/ride ratio does exist, thought it forms only for that particular jockey himself. I have no idea where to look for this data though i am sure it might be somewhere on the jockey clubs website or BHA e.ghttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547738239#547738239I am certain data on fall/ride ratio does exist, thought it forms only for that particular jockey himself. I have no idea where to look for this data though i am sure it might be somewhere on the jockey clubs website or BHA e.gMon, 08 Feb 2016 10:32:31 -0600if you have the data people can pick and chose what they use and what they discard - also fall/ride could be second sorted by trainer which would take the trainer factor away to some extent - there is so much that could be done with the right level ohttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547736891#547736891if you have the data people can pick and chose what they use and what they discard - also fall/ride could be second sorted by trainer which would take the trainer factor away to some extent - there is so much that could be done with the right level oMon, 08 Feb 2016 07:36:51 -0600I think the level stakes return at SP is about the best guide - although of course the market prices in 'expectation' from bigger name jockeys and, more particularly, stables - so it's far from fool-proof.the problem with rides/fall, is that some barhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547736853#547736853I think the level stakes return at SP is about the best guide - although of course the market prices in 'expectation' from bigger name jockeys and, more particularly, stables - so it's far from fool-proof.the problem with rides/fall, is that some barMon, 08 Feb 2016 07:30:26 -0600opta (and others presumably) are starting to provide science to a footballers performance that adds a little objectivity to what has always been a largely subjective assessment. I would like to see the same science added to jockeys. Of course there whttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30650163/discussion-about-rw-ride-on-vl-has-got-me-thinking-nothing-to-do-with-rw?post_id=547736759#547736759opta (and others presumably) are starting to provide science to a footballers performance that adds a little objectivity to what has always been a largely subjective assessment. I would like to see the same science added to jockeys. Of course there wMon, 08 Feb 2016 07:16:12 -0600