New Posts For Thread: please please please mr r change your modelhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-modelmy experience of wealthy american businessmen is completely at odds with how Mr R has approached his huge and much appreciated investment in the greatest sport in the world. Two things top businessmen from the US do better than those of any other natNow that would do nicely.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547095281#547095281Now that would do nicely.Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:16:47 -0600We're forgetting something here:Vautour v Un De Sceaux v Sprinter Sacrehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547092567#547092567We're forgetting something here:Vautour v Un De Sceaux v Sprinter SacreThu, 10 Dec 2015 06:29:01 -0600What a mouthwatering thought the idea of UDS v. Vautour in the CC. Brings me back to the Buck House, Bobsline & Badsworth Boy era of great 2 milers. If only Ricci had an interest back then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Pithttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547091701#547091701What a mouthwatering thought the idea of UDS v. Vautour in the CC. Brings me back to the Buck House, Bobsline & Badsworth Boy era of great 2 milers. If only Ricci had an interest back then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now. PitThu, 10 Dec 2015 04:17:05 -0600Would'nt that be great,to have Mullins top 2m chasers taking each other on.......now that would be good for the sport, but as you said though,unlikely.We all know the sport is not upper most in their minds,maybe for a jockey and trainer that's fair ehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547091041#547091041Would'nt that be great,to have Mullins top 2m chasers taking each other on.......now that would be good for the sport, but as you said though,unlikely.We all know the sport is not upper most in their minds,maybe for a jockey and trainer that's fair eThu, 10 Dec 2015 01:16:18 -0600@Arklearkle Ruby expressed many times that Vautour doesn't have the gears against the top 2 miles hurdlers, I don't know about chasers but UDS was near top class hurdler as well so Ruby will most likely choose UDS if RR insists(vvvv unlikely) he wanthttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547090129#547090129@Arklearkle Ruby expressed many times that Vautour doesn't have the gears against the top 2 miles hurdlers, I don't know about chasers but UDS was near top class hurdler as well so Ruby will most likely choose UDS if RR insists(vvvv unlikely) he wantWed, 09 Dec 2015 18:54:51 -0600Firstly I don't think for one minute that Ruby would think that Vautour is inferior, but actually if he did I think that may actually work as an incentive for Ricci to prove him wrong, I would hope that Ricci would take that as an insult (in the nicehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547090119#547090119Firstly I don't think for one minute that Ruby would think that Vautour is inferior, but actually if he did I think that may actually work as an incentive for Ricci to prove him wrong, I would hope that Ricci would take that as an insult (in the niceWed, 09 Dec 2015 18:53:47 -0600there'll be plenty for the CC @duffy but the problem is that market is stronger than the Ryanair. There's no point speculating on that, there's only 2 wks left. As for owners keeping their horses apart, here's what Hendo says: "Top Notch probably wonhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547090101#547090101there'll be plenty for the CC @duffy but the problem is that market is stronger than the Ryanair. There's no point speculating on that, there's only 2 wks left. As for owners keeping their horses apart, here's what Hendo says: "Top Notch probably wonWed, 09 Dec 2015 18:51:10 -0600Duffy what happens if both owners want to run (UDS and Vautour) in the Ch Ch and Ruby says he's riding UDS because he believes he is better over 2 miles than Vautour (I'm only supposing). Then RR has to decide does he want to win the Ryanair or comehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547090049#547090049Duffy what happens if both owners want to run (UDS and Vautour) in the Ch Ch and Ruby says he's riding UDS because he believes he is better over 2 miles than Vautour (I'm only supposing). Then RR has to decide does he want to win the Ryanair or comeWed, 09 Dec 2015 18:42:50 -0600Don't see how Ricci having his horses with other trainers would mean they would run against each other, they'd still be kept apart, unless of course you view the movement of the horses as a clear sign of a change in his thought process, but even if thttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547089793#547089793Don't see how Ricci having his horses with other trainers would mean they would run against each other, they'd still be kept apart, unless of course you view the movement of the horses as a clear sign of a change in his thought process, but even if tWed, 09 Dec 2015 18:15:42 -0600Budd I'm certain if any owner wants to run his horse in any particular race including at Cheltenham there is unlikely to be a problem irrespective of who the trainer is. At last years Festival WM had 4 runners in the Neptune 5 in the AB 3 in the GC ahttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30625395/please-please-please-mr-r-change-your-model?post_id=547087961#547087961Budd I'm certain if any owner wants to run his horse in any particular race including at Cheltenham there is unlikely to be a problem irrespective of who the trainer is. At last years Festival WM had 4 runners in the Neptune 5 in the AB 3 in the GC aWed, 09 Dec 2015 15:17:46 -0600