New Posts For Thread: Vautour problem?https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problemGone out to 8 here, with not a penny waiting to back him.Ryanair has certainly provided some good races last few years,not sure the same can be said of the Champion chase.Yes,it's a more established race and worth more money,and potentially a more exciting race with 2 m top chasers running against each othhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547296247#547296247Ryanair has certainly provided some good races last few years,not sure the same can be said of the Champion chase.Yes,it's a more established race and worth more money,and potentially a more exciting race with 2 m top chasers running against each othFri, 01 Jan 2016 07:20:10 -0600Enjoyed reading the debate. I'm a dinosaur so the CathcartPlus will never be truly accepted. That said, of course if I owned a 2 1/2 miler, he'd be running in the Ryanair.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547285969#547285969Enjoyed reading the debate. I'm a dinosaur so the CathcartPlus will never be truly accepted. That said, of course if I owned a 2 1/2 miler, he'd be running in the Ryanair.Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:27:47 -0600That's the issue kavvie. How much say does Ruby have? Of course he wants to have a favourites chance in all the big races. After all he's got to eat.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547284785#547284785That's the issue kavvie. How much say does Ruby have? Of course he wants to have a favourites chance in all the big races. After all he's got to eat.Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:25:04 -0600intresting comments here.im a big vautour fan and my thinking about the king george is that hes better going left handed by a good bit.he also can jump better . one intresting thing i recall is that when best mate got beat in the king george peoplehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547283463#547283463intresting comments here.im a big vautour fan and my thinking about the king george is that hes better going left handed by a good bit.he also can jump better . one intresting thing i recall is that when best mate got beat in the king george peopleWed, 30 Dec 2015 17:29:00 -0600BuddleiaObviously Vautour may have failed because he was just not quite fit enough. You can make a case for it. However there is a case for thinking of One Man as you did. One Man won over 26 furlongs at Newbury but always failed to get further thanhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547283339#547283339BuddleiaObviously Vautour may have failed because he was just not quite fit enough. You can make a case for it. However there is a case for thinking of One Man as you did. One Man won over 26 furlongs at Newbury but always failed to get further thanWed, 30 Dec 2015 17:23:44 -0600He did impossible. He also said there was more to come off.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547279491#547279491He did impossible. He also said there was more to come off.Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:19:41 -0600Did RR not say Vautour was 20kg lighter in the KG than at Ascot? I think Vautour was outstayed by Cue Card despite jumping the last several lengths in front.https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547277613#547277613Did RR not say Vautour was 20kg lighter in the KG than at Ascot? I think Vautour was outstayed by Cue Card despite jumping the last several lengths in front.Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:26:49 -0600- not maradona i hopehttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547277347#547277347- not maradona i hopeWed, 30 Dec 2015 10:41:04 -0600miltons sophie 30 Dec 15 09:06 duffy - your last point spot on - i was saving that one and you got there first Wink Thanks Milton, you're new to the forum but I've just had that eerie feeling that I've just been touched by the hand of godhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547277311#547277311miltons sophie 30 Dec 15 09:06 duffy - your last point spot on - i was saving that one and you got there first Wink Thanks Milton, you're new to the forum but I've just had that eerie feeling that I've just been touched by the hand of godWed, 30 Dec 2015 10:35:26 -0600well nione of us know how fit Vautour was,but I do know what I saw,and that was a horse that jumped well,travelled well and looked all over the winner,and indeed looked like winning easily.So I think he was in pretty good shape myself. Me eyes tell mhttps://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30624773/vautour-problem?post_id=547277249#547277249well nione of us know how fit Vautour was,but I do know what I saw,and that was a horse that jumped well,travelled well and looked all over the winner,and indeed looked like winning easily.So I think he was in pretty good shape myself. Me eyes tell mWed, 30 Dec 2015 10:25:04 -0600